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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 28, 2017 5:19:37 GMT -5
Hey all, upgraded my setup and could use a little guidance in settings and what to expect, tried doing some research but cant find anything on my particular cpu, I need to learn what max temps are and voltages and whats best when overclocking as right now I am at 4.8ghz 1.3vcore memory set at 3000mhz manually. is it better to set it at xmp..? Also whats good for stress testing is p95 ok or is there a better option as heard p95 is extreme for this cpu....
many thanks
jase
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 28, 2017 6:42:08 GMT -5
4.8 @ 1.3v sounds Ok.
Download Realtemp and run it while you run Prime95 and see what your temps go up to if its below 60c it should be Ok TJmax for those are 100c.
Prime95 shouldnt hurt it.
What board have you got and what memory is it?
You are better setting the memory manually dial in the primary settings to what they should be and try raising the memory frequency and see how it goes.
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 28, 2017 8:47:14 GMT -5
I have the gigabyte aorus z270x gaming 7 motherboard. well prime hits 60 after 30 mins using hw monitor booted at 5ghz 1.3v but wouldn't run p95
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 28, 2017 10:03:43 GMT -5
I have the gigabyte aorus z270x gaming 7 motherboard. well prime hits 60 after 30 mins using hw monitor booted at 5ghz 1.3v but wouldn't run p95 you should be able to push up to 1.4v I would start with 1.35 @5ghz and see what happens also what kind of cooler are you running? if you are running a AIO or water 1.4v should be easy to do |
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 28, 2017 12:51:54 GMT -5
I have a Thermaltake Pacific RL240 D5 Hard Tube Water Cooling Kit temps seem fine at the mo doesn't go over 50c gaming
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 28, 2017 12:56:53 GMT -5
I have a Thermaltake Pacific RL240 D5 Hard Tube Water Cooling Kit temps seem fine at the mo doesn't go over 50c gaming yea try 1.35v @5ghz and see what that does for you I wouldnt go much more then 1.4v for everyday use how do you like it so far I am gonna get the same CPU for my wife but 1.35-1.4 seems to be the norm for 5ghz |
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 28, 2017 15:34:48 GMT -5
whats norm temps tho  |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 28, 2017 15:47:03 GMT -5
whats norm temps tho this dude did a test 5.1ghz 1.38v with a 120mm AIO and it never hit over 90c he says the others I have seen with 240mm rad never get over 80c 100%l load you gotta remember tho those chips get a little warm so your looking at 70c-80c range 100% load prob in the 60c range maybe less while gaming www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/01/03/intel-core-i7-7700k-i5-7600k-review/8 |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 28, 2017 15:51:17 GMT -5
if you are brave enough you can always delid it and change the tim lol that scares me tho on a new CPU like that but it is supposed to help a lot
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 28, 2017 16:50:38 GMT -5
Changing the tim does help a lot dont be shy Shady I took the lid off my 3770k when I got it straight out of the box.
All my Ivy Haswell and Skylake have had the lids off.
I run 5Ghz core 5Ghz cache on my 6700k @ 1.48v on water all the time it was 30c ambient here last week and it was failing going through the physics test in Vantage I came back later when it was a bit cooler and had no problems with it.
As for the temp its running at I couldnt tell you I have never tested temps with it, I am confident in my block mounting and cooling loop.
From memory it gets to 80c while running XTU
Either it makes it through the benchmark or it dont.
I dont use it for daily use although it nearly gets daily use benching cards.
If you are under 60c while gaming you should be Ok.
As for normal temps there are a lot of variables that effect temp, the voltage and cooling used are the main things plus every CPU is slightly different in the current leakage, block mounting play a part too.
The best temp you can get with the clock you desire to run with minimal stable voltage is what you want to shoot for.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 28, 2017 17:05:41 GMT -5
I have thought about buying a delid kit I seen them for like $25 somewhere I left the link somewhere here
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 3:13:14 GMT -5
i noticed last night my temps fluctuate quite a lot, like the cores just jump around like cazy, is this normal or intel..? i'm used to amd so this is strange to me, pretty sure thermal paste is good, don't wanna redo it as the loop will have to be emptied won't it..?
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Post by ozz on Jan 29, 2017 3:33:36 GMT -5
i noticed last night my temps fluctuate quite a lot, like the cores just jump around like cazy, is this normal or intel..? i'm used to amd so this is strange to me, pretty sure thermal paste is good, don't wanna redo it as the loop will have to be emptied won't it..? no , why ?. same as anything, take the water block off , re tim it then re apply , there is no need to empty anything !!! |
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Post by ozz on Jan 29, 2017 5:07:09 GMT -5
well correct me if im wrong, a unsoldered chip yes no dramas, a soldered chip youll stuff the chip altogether if you dont melt the solder b4 the lid is ready to come free, youll actually pull the chip off the pcb, ive done it, and theres pics of here somewhere
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 6:32:56 GMT -5
i meant because I have a hard tube set-up, not sure how i'll remove block when pipes have no give...?
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Post by ozz on Jan 29, 2017 6:38:26 GMT -5
i meant because I have a hard tube set-up, not sure how i'll remove block when pipes have no give...? ok jase righto, you have no choice but to drain it then, this is the problem with this type of set up, they look good yes, but when something goes wrong or where a change is needed or wanted its a pain in the arse to do |
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 7:44:19 GMT -5
I am pretty sure it's not the thermal paste if I'm honest, but unless its meant to fluctuate which I have heard intel do because its very quick at reading core temp then something is wrong  |
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Post by ozz on Jan 29, 2017 8:04:27 GMT -5
theres not a lot of things to cause overheating to my knowledge, im sure the other boys will tell you better than i, its either bad tim paste and or the coverage on it, case cooling, (lack of, or directed wrongly air flow) a blocked or partially blocked water block or water cooling system, radiator, (faulty pump), too much volts or can be shit tim paste/solder coverage under the ihs plate in the cpu, depending what cpu it is of course, thats all i can think of now
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 8:07:51 GMT -5
thanks  well hopefully its not a blockage, it never gets too hot it just jumps around like crazy, like playing rocket league last night it would go like this: 42c-49c-41c-53c-59c-40c-47c and so on |
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Post by ozz on Jan 29, 2017 8:21:15 GMT -5
im not sure , as i said, the other boys will know better than i, but may be the cpu thermal throttling, and you can disable that in the bios
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 29, 2017 8:21:20 GMT -5
Ah you were playing a game yes expect the temp to jump around that is quite normal.
And if those are roughly the temps you are seeing that is very good you have nothing to worry about there.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 29, 2017 8:24:36 GMT -5
thanks well hopefully its not a blockage, it never gets too hot it just jumps around like crazy, like playing rocket league last night it would go like this: 42c-49c-41c-53c-59c-40c-47c and so on oh yea dude those temps are fine my 5820k idles at 32c and runs around 60c while gaming that is perfectly normal and I run mine 4.6ghz 1.25v and that is without C1E and all that BS on to reduce the power and clocks while at idle also what speed did you end up getting outta it did you try the 1.35v for 5ghz? |
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 8:24:58 GMT -5
it also does it while idle, do you think it could be some power settings or something as the power package also jumps up and down and that's making the temps go up and down I reckon...?
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 29, 2017 8:29:33 GMT -5
it also does it while idle, do you think it could be some power settings or something as the power package also jumps up and down and that's making the temps go up and down I reckon...? I would go in the bios and see if the speed stepping C1E and anything else that controls the driver to lower the power or see if its already off that could be making it jump around but like Pete said those temps are fine gaming it will jump around a lot if its a everyday rig for gaming I personally would leave the C1E and shit like that on for everyday use it only really makes a difference when you are benching it |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 29, 2017 8:29:51 GMT -5
It wont throttle with those temps
Intel handles temp a lot better than AMD does if you are constantly over 60 degrees when its not really loaded I would be worried about it.
As I said before my 6700k gets to 80c while running XTU and it doesnt throttle stays at 100% load.
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 8:46:23 GMT -5
nah idle temps are around 30-32c it just spikes to 40+ for split seconds from time to time but stays around the 32-35c mark, playing games last night it never went over 63c
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 29, 2017 8:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 29, 2017 8:47:59 GMT -5
nah idle temps are around 30-32c it just spikes to 40+ for split seconds from time to time but stays around the 32-35c mark, playing games last night it never went over 63c yea that is fine my 5820k jumps up to 40c sometimes that is fine it idles 30-35c with spikes to 40c but that is just something used your CPU for a sec that is normal |
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Post by jaseb87 on Jan 29, 2017 8:50:45 GMT -5
ah thanks a lot I still wanna hit 5ghz which should be easy on this cpu, but as only just put the new set up in, I think I wanna let the thermal paste bed in, is that a good thing to do or doesn't it really matter...? just did a p95 test and temps pretty much stayed at 55c only ran for 10 mins but there was hardly any fluctuation at all, just went up or down a couple of degrees so I think all is good |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 29, 2017 8:54:45 GMT -5
ah thanks a lot I still wanna hit 5ghz which should be easy on this cpu, but as only just put the new set up in, I think I wanna let the thermal paste bed in, is that a good thing to do or doesn't it really matter...? just did a p95 test and temps pretty much stayed at 55c only ran for 10 mins but there was hardly any fluctuation at all, just went up or down a couple of degrees so I think all is good try 1.35v @5ghz those temps are fine did you use a paste that needs to be burned in like Arctic MX-2 or MX-4 most nowadays dont need a burn-in but try 1.35v I wouldnt go more then 1.4v and I bet you get 5ghz maybe even 5.1ghz |
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well hopefully its not a blockage, it never gets too hot it just jumps around like crazy, like playing rocket league last night it would go like this:
