I wasn't calling you a fanboy bro. Some of the other forums are rampant with them. Just kinda sick of the AMD bashing on them.
Heat is relevant to cooling. I've seen screenshots better than 4.1 with decent air cooling (D14 and 15) with P95 running at under 60c. You're not going to see anywhere near that on a stock cooler.
I have seen them running H100i and H110i with those temps stated above at more then one place
IMO, those coolers are meant for stock systems (quad+ CPU's). people think they can OC with them, but in reality you shouldn't. There is little water in these systems, so once you really start to push the CPU (being any heavy one) you get in to a snowball effect and you'll lose the fight.
I ran a H100 (with my i7-920 and my i7-980x) for a while and when pushing and not OC'ing it performed fine, but once I started OC'ing after a good CPU intensive game or running 2-3 virtual machines once I shut everything down and let the CPU idle my temps lived in the 60 degrees C just because the water in the minuscule loop was so warm.
I ran a push/pull fan setup, and inlet fans on the outer frame of the case and the Case is a HAF-X 945... So it wasn't an airflow problem, the thing just couldn't keep up.
I have seen them running H100i and H110i with those temps stated above at more then one place
IMO, those coolers are meant for stock systems (quad+ CPU's). people think they can OC with them, but in reality you shouldn't. There is little water in these systems, so once you really start to push the CPU (being any heavy one) you get in to a snowball effect and you'll lose the fight.
I ran a H100 (with my i7-920 and my i7-980x) for a while and when pushing and not OC'ing it performed fine, but once I started OC'ing after a good CPU intensive game or running 2-3 virtual machines once I shut everything down and let the CPU idle my temps lived in the 60 degrees C just because the water in the minuscule loop was so warm.
I ran a push/pull fan setup, and inlet fans on the outer frame of the case and the Case is a HAF-X 945... So it wasn't an airflow problem, the thing just couldn't keep up.
Vin
its funny you say that cause I got a H100i GTX and it runs just fine on my OC 5820k 4.5ghz 1.25v NEVER GETS HOT at those OCs I also got a CM HAF-932 with push pull fans on mine you know what CPU did make it kinda hot with NO OC AMD FX-8350 the Corasir H100i GTX works just fine I have had it over a year now and never had a issue with it even when I didnt clean the rad for 4-5 months and I lived in a house where people smoked cigs then so I dont get where you think the H100i isnt good enough cause my 5820k is 140w compared to a 95w CPU 240mm rad should cool up to 200w TPD CPU so I dunno what you are talking about I think the most my CPU temp has ever gotten while gaming was 60c lmao
oh and I live in Florida where its 90F almost everyday
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These new AIOs are really impressive. I have an H80i GT cooling an FX-8300. That cooler will keep this dog gone thing at 60*C 4700MHz 1.55vcore in a HAF912 case. I would think something like that should work well on the new Ryzen CPUs.
IMO, those coolers are meant for stock systems (quad+ CPU's). people think they can OC with them, but in reality you shouldn't. There is little water in these systems, so once you really start to push the CPU (being any heavy one) you get in to a snowball effect and you'll lose the fight.
I ran a H100 (with my i7-920 and my i7-980x) for a while and when pushing and not OC'ing it performed fine, but once I started OC'ing after a good CPU intensive game or running 2-3 virtual machines once I shut everything down and let the CPU idle my temps lived in the 60 degrees C just because the water in the minuscule loop was so warm.
I ran a push/pull fan setup, and inlet fans on the outer frame of the case and the Case is a HAF-X 945... So it wasn't an airflow problem, the thing just couldn't keep up.
Vin
its funny you say that cause I got a H100i GTX and it runs just fine on my OC 5820k 4.5ghz 1.25v NEVER GETS HOT at those OCs I also got a CM HAF-932 with push pull fans on mine you know what CPU did make it kinda hot with NO OC AMD FX-8350 the Corasir H100i GTX works just fine I have had it over a year now and never had a issue with it even when I didnt clean the rad for 4-5 months and I lived in a house where people smoked cigs then so I dont get where you think the H100i isnt good enough cause my 5820k is 140w compared to a 95w CPU 240mm rad should cool up to 200w TPD CPU so I dunno what you are talking about I think the most my CPU temp has ever gotten while gaming was 60c lmao
oh and I live in Florida where its 90F almost everyday
don't know much about the GTX version. I just know I had this issue on 2 different PC's, one had an H50, the other had an H70.. both had the same thermal issues. the H50 was upgraded to the H80 and the H70 was upgraded to the H100 and these measures helped each respected system, but the issue still happened. it just took a little longer...
so right now I have an H70 and an H100 just sitting in a box collecting dust.
the plan for them is to get them clamped up to a GPU for some benching once I stop getting sucker punched by RL.
its no different than a new popular car that is made , series 1 model always has bugs, series 2 model some of the bugs are sorted, series 3 model usually all the bugs are sorted, ill be waiting for the series 2 at least to see what has been sorted and what hasnt, and that goes for the motherboards as well
yep deff gonna be a $1000+ war going on which is stupid IMO I know they are making a i5 in HEDT cpu for X299 but these R9 Ryzen CPUs just look like a bunch of server CPUs they are slapping in the consumer market all them cores aint gonna mean shit in gaming only people that gonna need them are people that need tons of cores 16c/32t is just getting outta hand if you ask me
yep deff gonna be a $1000+ war going on which is stupid IMO I know they are making a i5 in HEDT cpu for X299 but these R9 Ryzen CPUs just look like a bunch of server CPUs they are slapping in the consumer market all them cores aint gonna mean shit in gaming only people that gonna need them are people that need tons of cores 16c/32t is just getting outta hand if you ask me
Again gaming is not the tell all for computing much like P95 isn't the tell all in stability.
Your looking at a perfectly capable work station that competes with Intel's server line up. While AMD's servers will be twice as many threads as the desktop parts..... which is a very normal thing to see.
For guys like us, maybe not the ideal processor having a lot of cores, but you have to remember that size has a limit on IPC. with 14nm FinFet AMD has the speeds topped out while keeping pretty good efficiency. We can have 4 cores from Intel at a higher TDP rating than AMD's 16 thread Lineup.
And with so many offerings, ALL unlocked chips.... It seems to me AMD has an upper hand while people really try hard to hang onto their Octo-core i7 systems having only small percentage gains on IPC, however losing points with F@H and being pretty slow in comparison to a 32T AMD Ryzen 9 chip.
I remember when people said quad core wasn't needed..... But then everyone went out and bought them....
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zila1: It was beautiful today Jon. I washed my cars and installed a new radio in my van. Then went to Kostas in Algonquin for a beef sandwich. Great day.
Apr 14, 2024 21:02:37 GMT -5
ShrimpBrime: Finally some nice weather. Power washing the siding. Lookin new again!
Apr 14, 2024 14:06:06 GMT -5
zila1: Thank you so very much Scotty. That's so nice of you but I'm good. I was just shopping around and thought I would look at EVGA stock. That is a nice PSU though.
Mar 31, 2024 17:20:08 GMT -5
Mr.Scott: Eddie, I have a NIB Seasonic Focus 650 I can send you if it fits the bill.
Mar 31, 2024 8:15:58 GMT -5
zila1: Honestly, I wouldn't buy anything from them now. Even if I could buy now, I don't think they will be around for warranty.
Mar 30, 2024 12:37:50 GMT -5
zila1: Looks like maybe 3rd party vendors may have some stuff but this is not good. Even during the worst days of the pandemic I could buy something in stock. Looks like the death rattle is happening at EVGA.
Mar 30, 2024 12:36:22 GMT -5
zila1: I was just at EVGA website. Was looking around for a power supply. Tick the in stock items and everything disappeared. Nothing in stock. Looked at motherboards. Tick for in stock items and shows nothing in stock.
Mar 30, 2024 12:34:20 GMT -5
zila1: You're right Jon. I sat her down on my 3950X build and she can't tell the difference. On her new 2700X build she says the desktop is super fast. So another happy camper. It feels good to do something nice for my little sister. Happier than a pig in shit.
Mar 20, 2024 13:18:15 GMT -5
ShrimpBrime: Hell yeah. Tons of room for upgrades. 5900 might even be overkill haha
Mar 20, 2024 9:06:04 GMT -5
zila1: Thanks Jon. The nice thing is it is upgrade-able. I could put her on a 5900X later and put more ram on it and a faster graphics card later on. That's what I like so much about AM4.
Mar 19, 2024 15:21:52 GMT -5
ShrimpBrime: Nice! Good build.
Mar 19, 2024 14:33:41 GMT -5
zila1: Oh yeah, also a real nice Havit Keyboard and Mouse combo.
Mar 19, 2024 13:02:22 GMT -5
zila1: Mind you........all of this hardware was brand new in box.
Mar 19, 2024 13:00:35 GMT -5
zila1: She's blown away. She's been on it all day long. I told her this is slow by today's standards but it IS all brand new stuff I had stored away. It is a very fast little rig just the same.
Mar 19, 2024 12:59:29 GMT -5
zila1: Ryzen 7 2700X, Asus X470 Prime Pro, 16GB DDR4 FlareX CL14, Crucial 1TB NVME, EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2, EVGA 850W PSU, Cooler Master HAF912 with 200mm intake/exhaust and 120mm side intake/120mm rear exhaust and an Acer Predator Z301C Ultra wide Monitor.
Mar 19, 2024 12:58:10 GMT -5
zila1: I just gave my sister her first newer computer in many years. Her old computer was an FX8350 rig. I took some New Old Stock I had lying around and put something together for her.
Mar 19, 2024 12:51:55 GMT -5
ShrimpBrime: I mean it's not over powering, just can get the hint of chlorine. It's far better than we'll water though, I'll take it!!
Mar 17, 2024 17:23:54 GMT -5
zila1: That's weird. I would think that would have cleared on it's own with water usage. At least you don't have to worry about bacteria in your water.
Mar 17, 2024 16:13:05 GMT -5
ShrimpBrime: When they tore up Dean Street and replaced pipes, I think they over treated the water a bit. Chlorine is bleech.
Mar 17, 2024 13:09:23 GMT -5
zila1: After the new parts for the water heater arrive I'm gonna flush it again. Previous owner never did. The burner area under the heater was a dirty mess. Venting nicely now. But the igniter is weak. Water heater percolates too. Some do. Some don't.
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