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Post by zila1 on Oct 30, 2020 23:17:13 GMT -5
Yeah. I dropped Linux for a little while but I think I'm gonna try it again. A Linux game box. It should be a bit better by now I would hope. It was giving me fits last year and I dropped it. That's why I'm still on Windows 10. Games. On Windows 10....they just work. I want that with Linux.
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Post by zila1 on Oct 30, 2020 23:18:38 GMT -5
The 3900XT is not something I need. Just something I want. Honestly the 2700X is just fine. Nice chip.
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Oct 31, 2020 11:11:48 GMT -5
The 3900X was the one I was contemplating.. Until leaks for the 5xxx Zen3 series started coming about. I'm looking forward to building a new rig eventually..
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Post by zila1 on Oct 31, 2020 12:29:20 GMT -5
I don't want to buy a new motherboard just yet. I feel the 3900XT should be a nice companion to my Crosshair VII Hero. I would upgrade the processor and then later next year add in a new graphics card. I have 32GB of DDR4 3600MHz ram in it right now and maybe a New EVGA RTX 3070. That's what is on the drawing board right now.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 31, 2020 13:11:27 GMT -5
Probably wait till 2022 myself for 5nm on DDR5 if the rumors are correct.
Pretty sure a 2700X can hold me out that long. Not sure if investing any further at this time is logical.
5600X still doesnt beat out a 2700X in multitasking that I'm aware of yet. And a 5800X is going to require a new board most likely while rumors say Asus wont be supporting the new chips on B450.
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Post by zila1 on Oct 31, 2020 15:52:49 GMT -5
The 2700X is still a powerhouse. This chip is super strong. I don't need a cpu upgrade at all. Maybe graphics yes. I just WANT it.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 31, 2020 22:49:11 GMT -5
The 2700X is still a powerhouse. This chip is super strong. I don't need a cpu upgrade at all. Maybe graphics yes. I just WANT it. It's a decent chip, the 3900X I mean. Way better than a 2700X. Just wanting to see what prices look like the turn of the year. 39xxX on the list for a delid. Not that it hasn't been done, I want too! See what happens in due time. I hear some of those 3900X's can hit some really decent clocks. I hope yours goes like a mofo!
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Post by Bones on Oct 31, 2020 23:03:33 GMT -5
Got a 3600x here with my ACE board and it's a strong chip. I only wish I had gotten a 65W version of it or the 2700, that would have been ideal for me. I know I could find one and the 2700 would be a nice chip to have for power and less wattage used. Maybe one day I'll run across one cheap and pick it up.
That's why I got the 1200, to save on the powerbill since I'm on the machine so much but could use a little more power in the chip itself. The 2700x has the power but also uses alot more wattage too.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 1, 2020 1:18:13 GMT -5
Got a 3600x here with my ACE board and it's a strong chip. I only wish I had gotten a 65W version of it or the 2700, that would have been ideal for me. I know I could find one and the 2700 would be a nice chip to have for power and less wattage used. Maybe one day I'll run across one cheap and pick it up.
That's why I got the 1200, to save on the powerbill since I'm on the machine so much but could use a little more power in the chip itself. The 2700x has the power but also uses alot more wattage too.
1200 is a fun little chip. Wish it had SMT. Gave my brother the 1400 cause it's 8 threads. It's not faster than what he has, some 1366 chip, but way better for power efficiency. He's building soon, and instead of the 1366 for a file server, he'll use the 1400 instead. Not sure where my 1200 is. It might have suffered some degradation, I guess 1.6v is pushing it a little. Still operational, just haven't used it in a while.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 1, 2020 12:09:45 GMT -5
I was just looking at the CPU Support of my Asus Prime X370-Pro and it supports up to a 3950X. Memory support is where this board is a little weak. It tops out at DDR4 3200 and it doesn't do it easily. It likes relaxed timings. Although IF you can get the ram to run at CL14 that's not bad. I didn't pay much at all for this board when it first came out so I did good with it. I like the board. If I get another board it will be an Asus X570. I'm really not all that impressed with X570. I love my Crosshair VII Hero. I don't have any need for PCIE Gen 4. I would be re-using all of my current hardware for the most part. I would love another Good X470 Board. But prices being the same I would get an X570 board.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 4, 2020 11:57:20 GMT -5
I will have to beef up my cooling solution too. The 3900XT runs warm. It's a fantastic chip and a great upgrade from the 2700X. And both of my motherboards support them. AMD is just awesome. AMD is kicking ass.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 6, 2020 12:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 6, 2020 14:22:06 GMT -5
They will sell many less 500 series chipsets if they support Ryzen 5000 cpus. AMD let the motherboard manufacturers decide that fate because they caught too much flack the last time around.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 6, 2020 14:35:14 GMT -5
Yeah. I just really like my Crosshair VII Hero. I'm staying with it. Really nice board.
Edit: and honestly. I don't like the active cooling on the 570 chipset. One more thing to go wrong.
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Post by Bones on Nov 6, 2020 14:54:30 GMT -5
Let's hope it's just a matter of reslovng any potential BIOS issues and later they would add support for these chips. Probrably not gonna happen but again you never really know.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 6, 2020 15:45:58 GMT -5
That's what I'm hoping for Bones. Maybe enough folks will complain.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 6, 2020 19:40:46 GMT -5
Hmm, a one way bios upgrade to a beta bios to support 5000 chips? Mmmmm, no I don't think so. I will definitely be turned off by that. I won't risk my board for that. Instead I would just get a nice 3000 chip like a 3900 and call it a day. More than enough of an upgrade from my 2700X and then just go get a nice upgrade for my GPU. Done and done. Then take the 2700X and put that in the Prime X370 with my current 2060 Super and call it a day.
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Post by Bones on Nov 6, 2020 23:24:02 GMT -5
And that would be the reason why I'd prefer a board with a removeable BIOS chip. Get a spare chip, flash one with the older one and the other with the new BIOS.
If you board's BIOS chip is removeable you can do just that but make damn sure you save and archive the older BIOS from the chip before flashing it. Only thing would be if the chip is weird/different than than what the programmers we have work with. In that case it realy is a one way ticket.... Or is it?
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 0:46:12 GMT -5
I agree whole heartedly. That removable bios chip was always such a great idea. I always loved my Crosshair V Formula Z for that very reason. Heck I used to play with all kinds of bios files on that thing. I took the original factory chip off and put it away and hot flashed whatever I wanted onto the new chip or chips. I had several chips with all kinds of different bios files on them. Most fun board to play with.
Edit: Blown bios? Pffft, I had a piece of dental floss tied around the chip. Just pull it off and put another one in and keep on going.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 7, 2020 13:24:44 GMT -5
Go AMD!! Made a nifty logo. like it?
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 14:06:57 GMT -5
And that would be the reason why I'd prefer a board with a removeable BIOS chip. Get a spare chip, flash one with the older one and the other with the new BIOS. If you board's BIOS chip is removeable you can do just that but make damn sure you save and archive the older BIOS from the chip before flashing it. Only thing would be if the chip is weird/different than than what the programmers we have work with. In that case it realy is a one way ticket.... Or is it? Won't know of course without experiencing it first hand but I'm wondering if they are locking that beta bios down. Which I think is kinda dumb if they do that. I have experienced it before. But the board they did it on had a socketed bios chip and that in itself saved my bacon. I swapped out the bios chip and was back to normal. In fact I think it may have been on my Crosshair V Formula Z. The beta bios screwed up my board. Having that socketed bios is awesome. I like it better than dual bios boards. I have killed both bios chips on those types of boards before too. Again a stupid design. Now I could back out of a bad bios flash by de-soldering the bios chip and soldering in a new one but that is just too risky and way too much trouble to go thru. I've had to do that a time or two. I found pre programmed replacement chips on ebay and soldered them in. I don't like that.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 14:07:44 GMT -5
That looks cool Jon!
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 15:17:22 GMT -5
Well, well, well. Look what I found on my desk when I came in. Edit: I have to clean my rig out. Kinda dusty. The rad and fans are pretty dirty right now. Then I will pop this in and see how I like it. Oh yeah, it's a Ryzen 9 3900XT
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 7, 2020 15:29:25 GMT -5
let'er rip Eddie!
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Post by Vinster on Nov 7, 2020 20:39:08 GMT -5
ya, in the release they noted that the bios updates for the X/B4xx series boards wasn't going to be released until Jan. they said that up front in the release presentation.
but the 500 series MB's do have the updated Bios's out now.
It also seems on the board I'm planing there is a seperate memory QVL list for 3000, 4000 and 5000 series CPU's. I guess it makes sense..
Vin
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 21:21:37 GMT -5
Checking to see what this chip does on auto settings. The only thing I changed was DOCP. Checking to see what she does with auto voltage and what my cooling solution does with the temps on this chip. Running Prime95 303b6 on small ffts.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 21:25:30 GMT -5
Rad is heat soaking now. Temps at 72*C right now after 30minutes of small ffts. Ambient is about 22*C right now with an open window.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 7, 2020 21:27:18 GMT -5
Checking to see what this chip does on auto settings. The only thing I changed was DOCP. Checking to see what she does with auto voltage and what my cooling solution does with the temps on this chip. Running Prime95 303b6 on small ffts. View AttachmentView Attachment Eddie, go to Ryzen Master and click the game tab. You can increase the EDC PPT and TDC limits. Should help it boost a little better with your nice temps.
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Post by zila1 on Nov 7, 2020 21:42:02 GMT -5
Hot Edit: I set it back to stock and I'm working on tuning the ram in right now. Not worried about boosting the chip right now. Edit2: And God how I hate Ryzen Master.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 7, 2020 23:28:30 GMT -5
View AttachmentHot Edit: I set it back to stock and I'm working on tuning the ram in right now. Not worried about boosting the chip right now. Edit2: And God how I hate Ryzen Master. Oh my! More rad!
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