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Post by austin86 on Jun 15, 2023 11:11:56 GMT -5
Does anyone know if I can buy a frame and build my own deathbox? We don't have emissions here but curious how it would work registration/insurance wise depending on ware you live yeah. I would look into kit cars sites, a lot of info there.
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Post by zila1 on Jun 15, 2023 21:29:55 GMT -5
This can't be real.
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Post by Vinster on Jun 16, 2023 19:45:05 GMT -5
^ It makes sense... this isn't new... just the scale is different... do you know how Authors and book publishers would get #1 Best selling book in under a month of opening sales, physically this is impossible... The Author or Publisher would buy literally 1 Million copies...
Vin
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Post by genieben on Jul 21, 2023 4:52:25 GMT -5
Besides the nice points raised here, for me it’s the lack of soul. I am a primitive monkey, I like me things to make (good) sounds and to feel connected. None of this junk touchscreens and super safety features make me want to even desire one. Still hope I can raise enough money for a V10 Audi and an American V8 before my nanny state bans all ICE, which is within 10 years.
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Post by rushed on Jul 21, 2023 19:52:11 GMT -5
Besides the nice points raised here, for me it’s the lack of soul. I am a primitive monkey, I like me things to make (good) sounds and to feel connected. None of this junk touchscreens and super safety features make me want to even desire one. Still hope I can raise enough money for a V10 Audi and an American V8 before my nanny state bans all ICE, which is within 10 years. I'm very thankful that we have no emissions, and all trucks get a farm vehicle rate here. $50/yr dollar registration, $50/mo dollars full coverage insurance on trucks 10 yrs old. It's completely flat here though, so nobody really drives for fun here, most just for getting to and from places. (that's not to say the $100,000 cars and shit don't exist around here; they do...It's just all for vanity here to claim you have something better than your neighbor sadly, like why is 1/2 the parking lot at work filled with new jeep wranglers? I can see 5-20 miles depending on visibility here, they clearly don't need them for their intended use, and they suck in the winter here. We get Ice all winter long.)
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Post by george on Jul 21, 2023 22:15:57 GMT -5
well, for our use, a car need to have a range over 500km/310 miles without refueling/charging, and can pull a trailer. And boot space is always good to have. Not so many options there if going all electric. And if there is something, it'll cost an arm and a leg. And if living in a detached house, welp, charging point needed. (and I never owned a diesel powered car, drove a couple though back in the day). Sometimes wonder on my daily bicycle tours, see a lot of new cars, what have they been doing? Some new cars have a order/waiting list of over 6 months. Cars are not cheap here, and taxes takes the rest. I still remember when France had a campaign some 15-20 years ago, encourage a car buyer to choose/use diesel powered cars. Already at that time, I made a palm hand on my forehead.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 22, 2023 8:35:23 GMT -5
well, for our use, a car need to have a range over 500km/310 miles without refueling/charging, and can pull a trailer. And boot space is always good to have. Not so many options there if going all electric. And if there is something, it'll cost an arm and a leg. And if living in a detached house, welp, charging point needed. (and I never owned a diesel powered car, drove a couple though back in the day). Sometimes wonder on my daily bicycle tours, see a lot of new cars, what have they been doing? Some new cars have a order/waiting list of over 6 months. Cars are not cheap here, and taxes takes the rest. I still remember when France had a campaign some 15-20 years ago, encourage a car buyer to choose/use diesel powered cars. Already at that time, I made a palm hand on my forehead. Its all about control, and look at France now, Revolting because their tax system was trying to increase the returement age. Revolt needs to happen in the US. All this push for evs is a globalist scam to keep the working class from getting ahead and then possibly being wealthy from working. FJB FDNC
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Post by george on Jul 22, 2023 10:19:55 GMT -5
^Heck, some idea maker over here in nordics suggested retirement age of 72 years ref to expected life curve. BS would I say, we are not quite there yet. Then when is the next pandemic coming? Donkeys.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 22, 2023 22:13:34 GMT -5
^Heck, some idea maker over here in nordics suggested retirement age of 72 years ref to expected life curve. BS would I say, we are not quite there yet. Then when is the next pandemic coming? Donkeys. Jack asses is what they are called-communist thinkers
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Post by zila1 on Aug 1, 2023 11:21:39 GMT -5
Oh my gosh. I feel terrible for this family. Their home is a total loss.
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Post by Bones on Aug 1, 2023 15:40:57 GMT -5
This came to mind when I saw the above.
This was from July 28th and just today it was said the fire is now out but as you might expect the ship is probrably toast itself - Didn't sink but crispy indeed.
Makes me NOT want to use a parking garage with these things around because that will get nasty too when it happens.
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Post by zila1 on Aug 1, 2023 15:57:46 GMT -5
Horrible, just horrible.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 1, 2023 18:30:35 GMT -5
Oh my gosh. I feel terrible for this family. Their home is a total loss. Thermal Runaway
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Post by george on Aug 2, 2023 19:22:09 GMT -5
In recent times, at least three BIG car delivery ferries lost at sea. One was in the English channel and that one they eventually pulled up, the 2nd sunk deep into the Atlantic ocean, and now this 3rd. Thousands of cars gone. What a "joy" for the car orderers and insurance companies.
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Post by george on Aug 3, 2023 11:26:47 GMT -5
I saw now news, the car ship fire has been extinguished, but unfortunately the cargo likely gone beyond any rescue.
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Post by austin86 on Aug 3, 2023 14:40:52 GMT -5
But you don't need hybrid with a Toyota 4 banger. They get like 40 mpg and will outlast the rest of the vehicle. Same for my little fiesta heck I got close to 50mpg out of my old escort. And I recall some early 80s ecno cars liek the rabbit and omni got close to 60mpg
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 3, 2023 21:01:28 GMT -5
Besides the nice points raised here, for me it’s the lack of soul. I am a primitive monkey, I like me things to make (good) sounds and to feel connected. None of this junk touchscreens and super safety features make me want to even desire one. Still hope I can raise enough money for a V10 Audi and an American V8 before my nanny state bans all ICE, which is within 10 years. I'm very thankful that we have no emissions, and all trucks get a farm vehicle rate here. $50/yr dollar registration, $50/mo dollars full coverage insurance on trucks 10 yrs old. It's completely flat here though, so nobody really drives for fun here, most just for getting to and from places. (that's not to say the $100,000 cars and shit don't exist around here; they do...It's just all for vanity here to claim you have something better than your neighbor sadly, like why is 1/2 the parking lot at work filled with new jeep wranglers? I can see 5-20 miles depending on visibility here, they clearly don't need them for their intended use, and they suck in the winter here. We get Ice all winter long.) I was in Washington for 2 years 2010-2012, 03 Sierra standard bed and cab truck, 4.3L (262CID)V6. University Place is right next to Lakewood but on a hill, when it would freeze all the 4x4 vehicles couldn't make it up the hill. My 2wd I made it, and I'm from Texas. Low and behold all them were with WA plates, mine is TX.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 3, 2023 21:04:45 GMT -5
I saw now news, the car ship fire has been extinguished, but unfortunately the cargo likely gone beyond any rescue. Coverup
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 4, 2023 1:06:02 GMT -5
But you don't need hybrid with a Toyota 4 banger. They get like 40 mpg and will outlast the rest of the vehicle. Same for my little fiesta heck I got close to 50mpg out of my old escort. And I recall some early 80s ecno cars liek the rabbit and omni got close to 60mpg For sure, compact cars have pretty much always been great for fuel economy. This Nick guy I used to hang out with had one of those 3 cylinder geo's. Prism was it? Maybe metro.... anyhow, back in the 90's in Chicago less than a buck a gallon, you'd have change from a 20 filling it up and drive it all week. These small cars you could put a single cylinder 22hp garden tractor motor in it and put around no problem. Not fast, but probably take a month to drain a 12 gallon fuel tank!! Emissions is far less an issue with petroleum (gas) cars than it is with diesel. The NoX levels are much much higher. However in trucking, they've already accomplished 0 ppm emissions (for idling diesel trucks and tractors HD) for nearly 2 solid decades. AND the requirement for a diesel tractor is to have 70% or higher NoX conversion efficiency. Most of my equipment passes at 90% and higher. The exhausted gasses on HD tractors are converted to oxygen and carbon dioxide when the filters are in a regenerative state, which happens quite often while driving. The regen can also be commanded parked. This all is solely from injecting DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) which is made of 27% urea and 73% water; during a regen. The urea converts the NoX and the water splits. So on newer vehicles EPA 04 and higher, expect to see clean exhaust tips. What we need to do is get rid of the old mechanical and early gen electrical diesel motors. Cough cough... All government diesel engines..... are not required to have emissions..... Anyhow, administration wants a set goal of 57 miles per gallon by 2025. This is a laughable number. 35 maybe.... while even the best diesel motors only get 7mpg lol. Give a fuck about the cars really. These are all non issue ice vehicles while producing maybe as much as 15% NoX at max. BUT listen. Proposition for the world (public forum) Your vehicles have alternators. Design batteries you charge in your car and plug them in at home for storage or use. Its not complicated. We generate so much electricity with an alternator, it's just so under utilized..... The concept is too basic, simple and realistic. Let's just build electric cars instead. Lol well, my alternator could probably charge a Tesla in a reasonable amount of time.... if it where a 12v system, such as most of the components in your home. Word.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 4, 2023 13:41:09 GMT -5
Same for my little fiesta heck I got close to 50mpg out of my old escort. And I recall some early 80s ecno cars liek the rabbit and omni got close to 60mpg For sure, compact cars have pretty much always been great for fuel economy. This Nick guy I used to hang out with had one of those 3 cylinder geo's. Prism was it? Maybe metro.... anyhow, back in the 90's in Chicago less than a buck a gallon, you'd have change from a 20 filling it up and drive it all week. These small cars you could put a single cylinder 22hp garden tractor motor in it and put around no problem. Not fast, but probably take a month to drain a 12 gallon fuel tank!! Emissions is far less an issue with petroleum (gas) cars than it is with diesel. The NoX levels are much much higher. However in trucking, they've already accomplished 0 ppm emissions (for idling diesel trucks and tractors HD) for nearly 2 solid decades. AND the requirement for a diesel tractor is to have 70% or higher NoX conversion efficiency. Most of my equipment passes at 90% and higher. The exhausted gasses on HD tractors are converted to oxygen and carbon dioxide when the filters are in a regenerative state, which happens quite often while driving. The regen can also be commanded parked. This all is solely from injecting DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) which is made of 27% urea and 73% water; during a regen. The urea converts the NoX and the water splits. So on newer vehicles EPA 04 and higher, expect to see clean exhaust tips. What we need to do is get rid of the old mechanical and early gen electrical diesel motors. Cough cough... All government diesel engines..... are not required to have emissions..... Anyhow, administration wants a set goal of 57 miles per gallon by 2025. This is a laughable number. 35 maybe.... while even the best diesel motors only get 7mpg lol. Give a fuck about the cars really. These are all non issue ice vehicles while producing maybe as much as 15% NoX at max. BUT listen. Proposition for the world (public forum) Your vehicles have alternators. Design batteries you charge in your car and plug them in at home for storage or use. Its not complicated. We generate so much electricity with an alternator, it's just so under utilized..... The concept is too basic, simple and realistic. Let's just build electric cars instead. Lol well, my alternator could probably charge a Tesla in a reasonable amount of time.... if it where a 12v system, such as most of the components in your home. Word. Our gov is corrupt
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 4, 2023 20:56:15 GMT -5
For sure, compact cars have pretty much always been great for fuel economy. This Nick guy I used to hang out with had one of those 3 cylinder geo's. Prism was it? Maybe metro.... anyhow, back in the 90's in Chicago less than a buck a gallon, you'd have change from a 20 filling it up and drive it all week. These small cars you could put a single cylinder 22hp garden tractor motor in it and put around no problem. Not fast, but probably take a month to drain a 12 gallon fuel tank!! Emissions is far less an issue with petroleum (gas) cars than it is with diesel. The NoX levels are much much higher. However in trucking, they've already accomplished 0 ppm emissions (for idling diesel trucks and tractors HD) for nearly 2 solid decades. AND the requirement for a diesel tractor is to have 70% or higher NoX conversion efficiency. Most of my equipment passes at 90% and higher. The exhausted gasses on HD tractors are converted to oxygen and carbon dioxide when the filters are in a regenerative state, which happens quite often while driving. The regen can also be commanded parked. This all is solely from injecting DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) which is made of 27% urea and 73% water; during a regen. The urea converts the NoX and the water splits. So on newer vehicles EPA 04 and higher, expect to see clean exhaust tips. What we need to do is get rid of the old mechanical and early gen electrical diesel motors. Cough cough... All government diesel engines..... are not required to have emissions..... Anyhow, administration wants a set goal of 57 miles per gallon by 2025. This is a laughable number. 35 maybe.... while even the best diesel motors only get 7mpg lol. Give a fuck about the cars really. These are all non issue ice vehicles while producing maybe as much as 15% NoX at max. BUT listen. Proposition for the world (public forum) Your vehicles have alternators. Design batteries you charge in your car and plug them in at home for storage or use. Its not complicated. We generate so much electricity with an alternator, it's just so under utilized..... The concept is too basic, simple and realistic. Let's just build electric cars instead. Lol well, my alternator could probably charge a Tesla in a reasonable amount of time.... if it where a 12v system, such as most of the components in your home. Word. Our gov is corrupt Reminds me of hwbot XD
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 4, 2023 21:12:52 GMT -5
Now idiots in dc are trying to claim R410 was worse than R22, now they want to use Propane/butane as refrigerants, hello its a bomb.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 4, 2023 21:14:55 GMT -5
Now idiots in dc are trying to claim R410 was worse than R22, now they want to use Propane/butane as refrigerants, hello its a bomb. Yes, this is 1234YF refrigerant. I happen to be certified with that one too. Started using that a few years back already in automotive, Cadillac I think the first'ish cars to use it. Not sure if it's a bomb, definitely less volatile than a gasoline tank.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 4, 2023 22:56:31 GMT -5
R290 is propane
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 4, 2023 23:09:04 GMT -5
I think my ex gf has R435 in her home unit as an alternative
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 5, 2023 0:04:48 GMT -5
I have R410a in my unit. R134 in the autos.
Start the grill with propane.....
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 5, 2023 0:06:16 GMT -5
Our fork trucks run on propane actually. Sets off the shop vents every time you drive by the sensor. Our diesel trucks don't set the sensors.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 5, 2023 0:23:18 GMT -5
Our fork trucks run on propane actually. Sets off the shop vents every time you drive by the sensor. Our diesel trucks don't set the sensors. It only cost 500 to put dryer filter in evac system and pump the refrigerant in, everyone else wanted 1000+ for R22 i think it is.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 5, 2023 9:36:04 GMT -5
Our fork trucks run on propane actually. Sets off the shop vents every time you drive by the sensor. Our diesel trucks don't set the sensors. It only cost 500 to put dryer filter in evac system and pump the refrigerant in, everyone else wanted 1000+ for R22 i think it is. Bought a 410a kit last summer. 250 bucks on amazon. Charged it myself. It takes a long time because you charge on the vapor line. The liquid must go in very slowly a tad bit at a time. took me about 1.5hours total. upcharge the refrigerant and they probably charge 150 bucks an hour labor. Wifes friend had the A/C repaired at her home. 2500 dolla. They missed the leak and had to come back out. Then tried to charge her a second time. Edit: (charge her money as well as the system lol)
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 5, 2023 16:11:52 GMT -5
It only cost 500 to put dryer filter in evac system and pump the refrigerant in, everyone else wanted 1000+ for R22 i think it is. Bought a 410a kit last summer. 250 bucks on amazon. Charged it myself. It takes a long time because you charge on the vapor line. The liquid must go in very slowly a tad bit at a time. took me about 1.5hours total. upcharge the refrigerant and they probably charge 150 bucks an hour labor. Wifes friend had the A/C repaired at her home. 2500 dolla. They missed the leak and had to come back out. Then tried to charge her a second time. Edit: (charge her money as well as the system lol) It was an emerson bi directional filter, I found with correct tubing flanges. I'm not EPA certified or an AC guy myself, I can check the easy stuff though except crawl spaces (too tall and wide)
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