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Post by Aleslammer on Jan 1, 2019 10:22:18 GMT -5
How Low Can You Go:PiFast SuperPi 1M WP32 GPUPI 3.3 100M y-cruncher Pi-25m Winning result average of the five Need all five to be entered in the prize drawing Entry format, Name/Bench/Time with screen shot Open to ALL (Existing/Future) forum members This thread is for general questions and comments before and during the competition Competition thread will be posted the last day of January with the needed wall paper and reserved for competition entry's only Actual start time February 1, 0 hours UTC or January 31, 4:00 PM my time (didn't feel like staying up till midnight my time) End February 28, 24 hours UTC
General Rules:HWBot rules, (CPU, MEMORY & MB Tabs with bench and wall paper minimum) Work Station / Server CPUs allowed, Multi Socket Allowed, Core / Thread count limited to desktop market Single CPU core count (18/36 Intel - 32/64 AMD)No cooling limits Image of benching setup used requiredOne Prize, Lucky Draw:
First place 4 chances in the hat Second place 3 chances Third place 2 chances Fourth place and below 1 chance Prize:
MB: Asus Maximus II Formula CPUs: Celeron D 352, (SL9KM) Core 2 Duo E6600 (SL9ZL) Core 2 Quad Q6600 (SLACR) Core 2 Duo E8400 (SLB9J) Core 2 Extreme QX9650 (SLAN3) RAM: OCZ Flex XLC DDR2 1150 (Removed) (Replacement) OCZ Flex XLC DDR2 1200, Kit #8 DDR2 Binning Phase 1 OCZ Nvidia SLI Ready DDR2 1066 Transcend axeRam DDR2 800 (Micron chipped) VGAs: Sapphire HD4870 Asus 8800 GTX  Notes:Package mailed from the US so US customs apply to country of destination Maximus II Formula. do not have the LCD poster and sound card not tested
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jan 1, 2019 10:26:15 GMT -5
I am in  |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 1, 2019 10:33:13 GMT -5
Me too. Expound on this please? Also adding a shameless plug. Watch for Scotty's Nvidia family history comp coming in April-May.  |
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Post by casanova on Jan 1, 2019 12:09:40 GMT -5
I'm in too. Great prizes in the pool, thanks Ales |
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Post by casanova on Jan 1, 2019 12:12:26 GMT -5
Me too. Watch for Scotty's Nvidia family history comp coming in April-May. Great chance for me to take my nvidia vintage puppies out of the box |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 1, 2019 12:13:47 GMT -5
Me too. Watch for Scotty's Nvidia family history comp coming in April-May. Great chance for me to take my nvidia vintage puppies out of the box Indeed. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 1, 2019 12:16:53 GMT -5
I don't think my only Intel 478 rig is up to the task on this comp. Limited core count. Does that include counting threads? Like the prizes, very nice.  |
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Jan 1, 2019 13:02:54 GMT -5
Can't resist playfully saying "nuoooo, I have to learn how to use y-cruncher!!"  Yeah, odds are I'll be in. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 1, 2019 16:21:33 GMT -5
I am in I want that board. Although I would be in anyway for the fun of it. I don't think my only Intel 478 rig is up to the task on this comp. Limited core count. Does that include counting threads? Like the prizes, very nice. I would say Ryzen would be included as an enthusiast processor its sold as a desktop processor but over 8 cores would not but its not my comp we will have to see what Brad says. @ Scott I like the Nvidea vintage family comp too sounds good. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jan 1, 2019 18:55:54 GMT -5
I guess Brad is suggesting by " enthusiast processor " up to 8 cores. NOT HEDT cpus. We will see |
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Post by ozz on Jan 1, 2019 19:49:56 GMT -5
CPUs limited to enthusiast CPU core count
what does this mean ales ?? and the how low you can go, does that mean who can get the lowest cpu clock, or ram clock or overall low clock speeds ? bit confused here
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 1, 2019 23:03:46 GMT -5
I believe it's lowest score wins, or lowest time for combination of all benchmarks. pretty sure...
Enthusiast I'm thinking quad core? If he refers to Enthusiast from HWbot, that would be a cooling limitation.
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Post by ozz on Jan 1, 2019 23:09:08 GMT -5
he says no cooling limit so it isnt that i think itd be useless to run a system on ln2, dice , ss, and waste it, for a lowest score, times on that stuff
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jan 2, 2019 0:35:51 GMT -5
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO = How fast can you be in each benchmark ( low in time )
ENTHUSIAST PROCESSOR =
a) Intel up to 8 cores = I9-9900K
b) AMD up to 8 cores = Ryzen 2700X
Enthusiast processor by definition is a NON-HEDT processor.
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Post by ozz on Jan 2, 2019 0:47:27 GMT -5
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO = How fast can you be in each benchmark ( low in time ) ENTHUSIAST PROCESSOR = a) Intel up to 8 cores = I9-9900K b) AMD up to 8 cores = Ryzen 2700X Enthusiast processor by definition is a NON-HEDT processor. george i dunno what hedt means or how or what its supposed to do mate, i havent got any new ddr4 stuff any way, and at this stage i dont even want to get involved in it |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jan 2, 2019 0:55:13 GMT -5
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO = How fast can you be in each benchmark ( low in time ) ENTHUSIAST PROCESSOR = a) Intel up to 8 cores = I9-9900K b) AMD up to 8 cores = Ryzen 2700X Enthusiast processor by definition is a NON-HEDT processor. george i dunno what hedt means or how or what its supposed to do mate, i havent got any new ddr4 stuff any way, and at this stage i dont even want to get involved in it In simpler words -
Skylake-X and Threadripper's excluded. Also, I suppose Brad means older versions of Intel Extreme processors from 8 cores and above.
But that is only me guessing, lol. I hope Brad will enlighten us sooner than later
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Post by ozz on Jan 2, 2019 1:03:06 GMT -5
george i dunno what hedt means or how or what its supposed to do mate, i havent got any new ddr4 stuff any way, and at this stage i dont even want to get involved in it In simpler words -
Skylake-X and Threadripper's excluded. Also, I suppose Brad means older versions of Intel Extreme processors from 8 cores and above.
But that is only me guessing, lol. I hope Brad will enlighten us sooner than later
righteo george thx mate, im sure ales will define it for us  |
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Post by Aleslammer on Jan 2, 2019 8:31:29 GMT -5
Sorry wording was not chosen correctly, enthusiast to me is desktop market, high or low end (like WS parts). Can use WS CPUs but limited to (single socket) Revised to multi socket desktop core count, Intel's flagship i9 is 18 cores, top Ryzen is 32. Example socket 2011 top i7 was 6 cores, top Xeon was 12 cores so 6 cores would be the limit for that socket.
Faster for the bench's chosen means a smaller or lower score so How Low Can You Go.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2019 16:15:57 GMT -5
Can you use 2 different systems for the benches like SPI, Pifast 8700k and WP, GPUPI, ycrunch Ryzen? Cool Brad its a raffle just gotta put subs in to buy a ticket solves the problem of making a comp that everyone can enter and its a good membership drive. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 2, 2019 16:39:41 GMT -5
LOL Pete. You already have an upper hand with that bad ass LN cooling. Now you want to have more edge using multiple processors? That's a game changer for a guy like me.... ehh...
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2019 18:36:59 GMT -5
Was just wonderin Jon it doesnt really matter either way.
I dont even know weather I am going to spend $120 for LN2 on it its a lottery if the rollup is big the chances of winning the prize wont be great even if you come first in the competition.
I am only interested in the motherboard anyway if I was to win the lottery Brad only has to send the board oh and maybe the QX9650 (it might be better than mine) the rest he can give to someone else.
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Post by ozz on Jan 2, 2019 18:52:41 GMT -5
well i may be well wrong here but why would you need LN2 for a go low go slow comp anyway if you need low mhz , lowest bus you can get, prob loose ram timings as well and low volts
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jan 2, 2019 19:05:22 GMT -5
Sorry wording was not chosen correctly, enthusiast to me is desktop market, high or low end (like WS parts). Can use WS CPUs but limited to single socket desktop core count, Intel's flagship i9 is 18 cores, top Ryzen is 32. Example socket 2011 top i7 was 6 cores, top Xeon was 12 cores so 6 cores would be the limit for that socket. Faster for the bench's chosen means a smaller or lower score so How Low Can You Go. Sorry Brad, but maybe I am kind of slow minded today, lol
Are we going for best score with clcoks as high as possible, or vice versa ?
And in this case why should anyone go cold, if the target is Wprime 60 minutes time ?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2019 19:36:21 GMT -5
Its the fastest you can go in all the benches a lower time is better the faster the clocks tighter the timings and in three benches more cores will give you a lower time score its got nothing to do with the longest time you can run a bench its the fastest time to complete a bench.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 2, 2019 19:41:37 GMT -5
well i may be well wrong here but why would you need LN2 for a go low go slow comp anyway if you need low mhz , lowest bus you can get, prob loose ram timings as well and low volts He just means low times. So PiMod having a lower time 4 seconds is a lower amount of time to complete than 6 seconds. So LOWEST average time of 5 benchmarks wins. Pretty sure (99.8265%) that's what he means Shane. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 2, 2019 19:45:25 GMT -5
Was just wonderin Jon it doesnt really matter either way. I dont even know weather I am going to spend $120 for LN2 on it its a lottery if the rollup is big the chances of winning the prize wont be great even if you come first in the competition. I am only interested in the motherboard anyway if I was to win the lottery Brad only has to send the board oh and maybe the QX9650 (it might be better than mine) the rest he can give to someone else. Sorry, I was being a smart ass, my apologies. I'ma give this a go. I already know where my Cpu tops out at. It won't matter unless I spend 80$ on LN2 (22L dewar), so I'm in the same boat as you. Besides I'd like to delid mine after some good use and a backup chip just in case lol. |
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Post by ozz on Jan 2, 2019 19:49:15 GMT -5
righto , but im still confused, ill talk to ya later bout it on the phone pete
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Post by casanova on Jan 2, 2019 20:50:49 GMT -5
Pick up your best cpu/ram/mobo set, bench/tweak/optmize it the best you can, screenshot/save according to the rules, upload it to bot (optional?), post it here, done |
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Post by Aleslammer on Jan 3, 2019 9:01:15 GMT -5
Can use one setup or five different ones doesn't matter, figured two for sure.
ShrimpBrime's PiMod example is right one, higher clocks equal faster time equals lower number.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 3, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -5
GPUPI for CPU, correct?
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