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Post by ksateaaa23 on Dec 30, 2017 0:54:33 GMT -5
Not covered if there's socket pin damage. i have bent no.of pins on my z97-d3h.(at least half a dozen) on and off mem working single/ dual channel.(bottom right centre to corner pins on socket) and finally stopped booting. i went to gigabyte service centre. he checked and said physical damage, no warranty, we will not accept it. i explained him, i am an overclocker(i have shown my hwbot profie) and have to bench, rebench no. of times because of various competitions. i pressed the AIO too hard on it, so this happened. the guy taken it and said 99.9% it will be done, it takes a week. in 10 days time the board arrived(socket looked perfect) and working flawlessly. we can try and ask them to accept for RMA
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Post by ozz on Dec 30, 2017 1:24:31 GMT -5
i absolutely hate intel sockets , 1 slip or wrong move then you have a dead or useless board. i think its about time intel had a look and redesigned the socket pins set up, you have boards worth x amount of $ and 1 slip the board is done, i suppose that all money for them and very well designed just to do that, so that isnt gunna happen is it
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 30, 2017 8:12:36 GMT -5
What is better to drop a $2000 dollar cpu with pins on it and break one off or bend a few pins in a $700 motherboard socket. You would hate AMD Threadripper its got a 4096 Pin LGA socket in fact AMD have been using LGA sockets in there server sockets for quite some time. ZIF (Zero insertion Force)sockets have there problems too as I am sure Shady would attest. I have also got a couple of AM3 boards here with bad sockets.
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Post by Aleslammer on Dec 30, 2017 8:50:29 GMT -5
I'll pull it out of the box again and have a closer look at the pins but really didn't see anything that drew my attention when I put it away. I'll end up eating it hard for me to return something that was caused by my own stupidity.
Personally think Intel sockets are pretty fragile but their CPUs are easier to ship, didn't AMD go to something similar on their newer stuff? (Mac answered the question before I posted)
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 30, 2017 10:42:25 GMT -5
You got a good CS rep. Most of the time it doesn't work out that way.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 30, 2017 18:21:36 GMT -5
LOL yea ZIF sockets dont like me that much but all sockets have their issues think the only ones that didnt have pin issues where slot 1 and A lmao
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Post by Bones on Dec 31, 2017 18:44:38 GMT -5
You've nothing to lose by trying, denying is the worst that can happen so see if they won't fix it.
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Post by Bones on Jan 2, 2018 15:52:03 GMT -5
Not a hardware death but had a really close call last night with the Q8400 and my REX.
Even though I have anti-freeze in my tower the setup froze and I lost coolant flow, making the chip hit 100c and the block itself was VERY warm when I placed my hand on it to confirm. I believe what happened is it froze at the nozzles where it sprays from since those are brass instead of plastic, all the rest is plastic and after seeing this I did check the tower, the water in the tower itself didn't freeze so that was good. Pump and all else wasn't affected.
Fired it up this afternoon and it was working fine so I'll call that more of a scare than anything.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2018 16:20:00 GMT -5
Interesting how did the Q8400 go in the rex? My QX9650 dont go good in my Rex but goes good in the EP45T-UD3R. Of course the Rex is untouchable with dual cores in it
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Post by Bones on Jan 2, 2018 16:52:34 GMT -5
Interesting how did the Q8400 go in the rex? My QX9650 dont go good in my Rex but goes good in the EP45T-UD3R. Of course the Rex is untouchable with dual cores in it Pretty good overall. Got a couple of good runs from it and subbed those. My E9550 and the Xeon equivalent I have of that chip model does OK too, they get hot so I'm kinda limited but the board seems like it will run them if I were to freeze it. Could be a simple difference in the BOS used, I dunno and I haven't changed the BIOS I"m running in it, what's in it now is what it came with when I got it.
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Post by ozz on Jan 2, 2018 17:32:37 GMT -5
you got a pic of the nozzle that froze rods ? out of the unit, i got an idea for the nozzle freezing but dunno if itll be any good unless i can see a nozzle
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Post by Bones on Jan 2, 2018 18:37:54 GMT -5
This the nozzle I'm referring to, I have 3 of these in the tower: I'm thinking since it's metal rather than plastic is at least part of why I had the freezeup to happen. Probrably froze up right at the outlet/tip and it coudn't move water once that happened.
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Post by ozz on Jan 2, 2018 18:56:51 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Jan 2, 2018 19:30:36 GMT -5
I agree, I do have one plastic nozzle and no prob to get two more. Bad thing about the plastic one is the spray pattern isn't as good as the brass ones are but if it doesn't freeze then that's a good thing. Besides, I'll probrably redo the tower before too long or just come up with something else useful, whatever works.
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Jan 2, 2018 23:40:01 GMT -5
Surprisingly, the only thing I've killed since my Maximus II Formula ages ago was... My Citadel 4th and 5th gen paint pots. At least some of them, but that's what you get for ten year old paint pots..
For some strange reason bare aluminum against all the VRMs and then turning on power causes everything to short... I was rushing that day, and didn't pay attention to my usual order of things (I almost always go armaflex against board, then a double fold (so quarter the sheet size in the end) shop towel, then the bracket. Thankfully I also got a better pot that no longer has an aluminum base (or so I think, no idea if Vince's pots are aluminum for hold down or not). I'd only ever done a single run on that board too.
Glad to hear despite the slight freeze in the tower the Rex lived.
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Post by Bones on Jan 2, 2018 23:51:05 GMT -5
You woudn't think it gets that cold here but it does on occasion, kinda rare but it happens and I have seen it colder before. Not gonna push my luck tonight, sometimes it's a chore to go out just to bench in the cold.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 3, 2018 1:28:40 GMT -5
Surprisingly, the only thing I've killed since my Maximus II Formula ages ago was... My Citadel 4th and 5th gen paint pots. At least some of them, but that's what you get for ten year old paint pots.. For some strange reason bare aluminum against all the VRMs and then turning on power causes everything to short... I was rushing that day, and didn't pay attention to my usual order of things (I almost always go armaflex against board, then a double fold (so quarter the sheet size in the end) shop towel, then the bracket. Thankfully I also got a better pot that no longer has an aluminum base (or so I think, no idea if Vince's pots are aluminum for hold down or not). I'd only ever done a single run on that board too. Glad to hear despite the slight freeze in the tower the Rex lived. Vince's pots use an aluminium Backing plate I use a 1/2" closed cell foam sheet between the backing plate and the board. The board in this pic is sitting on the closed cell foam sheet.
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Post by Vinster on Jan 3, 2018 10:04:10 GMT -5
that's a pretty pic Mac
Vin
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Jan 3, 2018 14:40:30 GMT -5
I definitely agree. My prep is never that tidy, let alone organized.... It's mainly "rolled up shop towels stuffed into crevices" for the memory and secondary layer around the cooling pot ^_^;;;;;
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 12, 2018 8:55:26 GMT -5
Looks good means nothing to me at the moment the board died this morning and for no apparent reason I have been only running it on water 5GHz 1.4v for CheapasChips and it looks like the VRM has died. I had the card frozen in it last night no problems shut down at the end and removed the card booted it up this morning with another card in it to test a Rev 4 Epower and it booted no problems never had the drive connected so it went into the bios then I shut it down and rebooted and it shit itself. Thought it might be the processor so pulled the 7700k out and put a 6700k in and same thing. If I boot it without the CPU 12v connected it will power on and sit there if the CPU 12v is connected it comes on and shuts off it cycles like that twice then wont come on at all. So Cheapaschips is over for me.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 12, 2018 9:12:23 GMT -5
Looks good means nothing to me at the moment the board died this morning and for no apparent reason I have been only running it on water 5GHz 1.4v for CheapasChips and it looks like the VRM has died. I had the card frozen in it last night no problems shut down at the end and removed the card booted it up this morning with another card in it to test a Rev 4 Epower and it booted no problems never had the drive connected so it went into the bios then I shut it down and rebooted and it shit itself. Thought it might be the processor so pulled the 7700k out and put a 6700k in and same thing. If I boot it without the CPU 12v connected it will power on and sit there if the CPU 12v is connected it comes on and shuts off it cycles like that twice then wont come on at all. So Cheapaschips is over for me. that sucks man sorry to hear ya lost a 1151 mobo that hurts
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Post by Vinster on Jan 12, 2018 9:14:13 GMT -5
that blows, sorry for the loss Mac.
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 12, 2018 9:15:44 GMT -5
I will get another in a few weeks but first its a Maximus X Apex next friday.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 12, 2018 9:27:05 GMT -5
I will get another in a few weeks but first its a Maximus X Apex next friday. nice that is the board I am thinking about getting if I go Z370 but I really want a 8c so still thinking about going X299
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Post by ozz on Jan 13, 2018 1:16:32 GMT -5
email sent to you know who, itll be sorted 1 way or the other
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Post by dr4g00n on Jan 29, 2018 19:14:07 GMT -5
RIP P4C800-E. It was running 32M so I left it and came back 10mins later to a black screen. I can occasionally get it to sort of boot by fiddling with it and flashing the bios but it's not happy. I'm pretty sure it's this busted pin in the socket that's causing most of the problem, must've just been barely holding on. Guess that's what happens when you shove a bunch of chips with bent pins into it. What really sucks is that the cheapest one that I can find on ebay is $150 shipped.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 29, 2018 19:24:52 GMT -5
Yes, those boards are fragile. I've gone through a half dozen. Yes, they are getting harder to find.
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Post by Vinster on Jan 29, 2018 19:51:19 GMT -5
RIP P4C800-E. It was running 32M so I left it and came back 10mins later to a black screen. I can occasionally get it to sort of boot by fiddling with it and flashing the bios but it's not happy. I'm pretty sure it's this busted pin in the socket that's causing most of the problem, must've just been barely holding on. Guess that's what happens when you shove a bunch of chips with bent pins into it. What really sucks is that the cheapest one that I can find on ebay is $150 shipped. I think I remember reading a spec that an 775 socket is only good to clamp a CPU like 30-50 times... not sure about that socket though... but I'm sure it's less... sorry about the board. Vin
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 29, 2018 20:15:21 GMT -5
RIP P4C800-E. It was running 32M so I left it and came back 10mins later to a black screen. I can occasionally get it to sort of boot by fiddling with it and flashing the bios but it's not happy. I'm pretty sure it's this busted pin in the socket that's causing most of the problem, must've just been barely holding on. Guess that's what happens when you shove a bunch of chips with bent pins into it. What really sucks is that the cheapest one that I can find on ebay is $150 shipped. ouch that sucks man me and Zif sockets dont get along that is why I got a asus crosshair mobo just chilling with fried socket
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Post by dr4g00n on Jan 29, 2018 22:48:50 GMT -5
If I could find a new socket for cheap I'd just replace it and see if it works proper but these are harder to find than chipset's unfortunately.
Though I suppose I could steal one off a cheap dell/hp board.
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