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Post by Bones on Feb 12, 2017 7:46:32 GMT -5
Was goofing off doing some tweak & tuning here.....
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Post by alpi on Feb 12, 2017 9:31:08 GMT -5
Was goofing off doing some tweak & tuning here..... Haven't really find the key to this bench. Finally I was able to make nice eff at the first and second test but my Heavy Multitasking score is still on holyday. Do You have pretty big fluctuating in scores also ? Or just me have some instability ? :S
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Post by Mr.Scott on Feb 12, 2017 9:39:37 GMT -5
Stability is one of the keys for sure. If you watch the CPU usage, when it drops off 100% that is when you lose points from your score. Most of that is due to instability. At least, that's what I'm finding. If I keep that usage from dropping off 100% as much as possible, my scores are much better. This is more of a processor efficiency bench than anything else.
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Post by alpi on Feb 12, 2017 9:49:49 GMT -5
Stability is one of the keys for sure. If you watch the CPU usage, when it drops off 100% that is when you lose points from your score. Most of that is due to instability. At least, that's what I'm finding. If I keep that usage from dropping off 100% as much as possible, my scores are much better. This is more of a processor efficiency bench than anything else. Yes, I think Yo're right. The first (and even second test) needs full stability. My last and best sub made after raised a bit vcore. But that is pretty strange how can it solve the last and the toughest part before if vcore wasn't really enough. But ye, we can see even 3d cpu tests that find some kind of cpu instability that isn't shown any other case. :S Won't be my favourite benchmark I think.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Feb 12, 2017 12:41:11 GMT -5
I agree. The benchmark is crap. I'll never run it again unless I have to.
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Post by Aleslammer on Feb 12, 2017 19:56:13 GMT -5
I agree. The benchmark is crap. I'll never run it again unless I have to. 2nd that!!!! New toy, core speed is respectable but have never had this set of ram this high usually flakes in the 270s.
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Post by alpi on Feb 12, 2017 20:51:16 GMT -5
Very nice kit ! And even 2x1 ! I have a pair of vitesta that runs nearly the same but unfortunatelly it's only a 2x256 kit. It's small amount of ram for some bench / os.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Feb 13, 2017 2:02:52 GMT -5
They are nice for a 2Gb kit
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Post by Aleslammer on Feb 13, 2017 8:46:18 GMT -5
Have a set of G Skill 2x512 TCCDs that will run in the same range but won't post till voltage is set around 2.95v with a lower voltage friendly stick so don't use them that much. Personally envious of Mr. Scott's BH5s but till I switch to a DFI board going to have to be happy with Cas 2.5 and all the speed I can get. Been following the 939 thread at OCN and one of the posters has been playing with ECC RAM, so for the novelty of it had to give it go. First tried 4x2 Qimondas' would do lower to mid 210s Cas 2.5 and could set 1T. Next was 4x4 Samsungs' no more than 208+/- Cas 2.5 and 2T but lowering the speed could get them to 2.5-2-2-6 2T, 180 range. Neither set helped Realbench much.
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Post by Bones on Feb 13, 2017 19:48:50 GMT -5
You'll probrably need a set that can go above 200 to see any real improvement. As Scotty said it's largely about stability and I've noted the amount of real RAM in the system makes a difference BUT it has to be at a decent speed to have any benefit. A mix of CPU and the best RAM speed you can get seems to be what it takes. Remember this is actually a gamer's bench, not a competition OC'ing benchmark but it's being used that way here.
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Post by alpi on Jul 29, 2017 3:54:31 GMT -5
My Opteron 165 with on die water. Testing for the team cup :
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Post by obscureparadox on Jul 29, 2017 12:19:43 GMT -5
Seems like you've got a lot of voltage headroom to go also Keep pushing it bro!!!
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 29, 2017 17:06:23 GMT -5
Yep looks like a nice chip.
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Post by alpi on Jul 29, 2017 18:32:56 GMT -5
Yep looks like a nice chip. There is no nice chip after You've seen Bones one ! I need a cold night to have a chance reach the mighty 3.3 barrier. They are not so easy stuffs when You want to maxing out them. :S They hates warm but You can't cool them below a barrier. It's such a narrow zone when You can see them shining. A bit upper they becames average quite fast, below You wil have a black screen. I'm thinking about a chiller that can be temperated and able to cool down into low minuses. It will be such a useful thing for 939 and Am2 benching.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 29, 2017 19:21:11 GMT -5
Yep looks like a nice chip. There is no nice chip after You've seen Bones one ! So true.
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Post by ozz on Jul 29, 2017 19:22:02 GMT -5
bones's chip is a freak for sure, but it does prove they are out there, (somewhere) the hard thing to do is find 1 , my guess is theyre probably in someones old daily pc that they either sold , threw out or gave away for a starter pc to some kid or someone because they wanted to upgrade and not even knowing what the capabilities of the chip could be or couldve been
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Post by Bones on Jul 29, 2017 20:20:31 GMT -5
Yes, I've always wondered how many killer chips have gone to the recycler or the trash simply because they were old, not bad. As said before this was a random fleabay purchase I scored big time on, no telling who will have the next one up for grabs. I'll also throw in the board with a 165 makes alot of difference too, if the board won't go up the chip certainly won't. I do wish at times it was at least a 170 just to have the extra multi to counter where the board stops wanting to go up but it is what it is and I'm glad to have it.
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Post by ozz on Jul 29, 2017 20:34:37 GMT -5
Yes, I've always wondered how many killer chips have gone to the recycler or the trash simply because they were old, not bad. As said before this was a random fleabay purchase I scored big time on, no telling who will have the next one up for grabs. I'll also throw in the board with a 165 makes alot of difference too, if the board won't go up the chip certainly won't. I do wish at times it was at least a 170 just to have the extra multi to counter where the board stops wanting to go up but it is what it is and I'm glad to have it. you def lucked out with that 165 rods, i havent been to the tip for a couple of months now, but going to day, the van is loaded with a heap of old computer stuff thats no good so ill chuck that and see what else is there to bring home and see whats in it, who knows, maybe one day ill luck out with a killer chip and board with it, ive got a lot of stuff from the recycle bin and prob 70% of it have been workers, cpus, mobos, gpus. psus, dvds, cases, hdds, if they dont catch me out doing it maybe ill get lucky
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Post by dr4g00n on Jul 30, 2017 9:29:12 GMT -5
Yep looks like a nice chip. There is no nice chip after You've seen Bones one ! I need a cold night to have a chance reach the mighty 3.3 barrier. They are not so easy stuffs when You want to maxing out them. :S They hates warm but You can't cool them below a barrier. It's such a narrow zone when You can see them shining. A bit upper they becames average quite fast, below You wil have a black screen. I'm thinking about a chiller that can be temperated and able to cool down into low minuses. It will be such a useful thing for 939 and Am2 benching. A chiller is a good idea! Mine works wonders for my 939 chips. Coolant @ -25C gets an average gain of about 175 to 200MHz over ambient water on my dual cores. It's a little too cold for the single cores though, need to put the thermostat back in for those.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 30, 2017 11:18:15 GMT -5
Depends on the processor. I have a few single cores that have no cold bug.
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Post by Bones on Jul 30, 2017 16:55:45 GMT -5
I'll tell you what's crazy about mine - It HATES the cold for some reason, has a tendency to bug out if the water is chilled. The chip wants itself to be a little warmer for the best results I can get from it, maintaining temps while under load is the key to this one.
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Post by obscureparadox on Jul 30, 2017 21:48:24 GMT -5
There is no nice chip after You've seen Bones one ! So true. Shame he's on the wrong team
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Post by obscureparadox on Jul 30, 2017 21:55:27 GMT -5
Depends on the processor. I have a few single cores that have no cold bug. by that do you mean @200fsb or just in general?
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 1, 2017 15:40:08 GMT -5
Depends on the processor. I have a few single cores that have no cold bug. by that do you mean @200fsb or just in general? In general. I have Opty 144's, 146's, and 148's that have no CB or CBB on LN2. Verified by Drewmeister. So......not every 939 has cold bug. Just most of them.
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Post by Bones on Oct 4, 2017 19:48:33 GMT -5
Need to recall how to get PC Mark 05 results in txt format. I've been messing around with this and the 165 today and came up with some interesting results. Obviously some parts of the bench are in bad need of tweaks but I didn't do any for these test and setup runs which were ran with Win 7 64 bit instead of Vista as it shows. XP would probrably be best for this and just tweaks in general I'll need to do, including getting a working RAID setup going. Really want to knock 'ol Knobblerbrute off his perch and be done with it BUT if I can't get results in txt format then it doesn't matter. Certainly have the speed to get it done at least. Look these over and you'll see why I want to go after the Brute and yes, there is more in the tank.
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Post by Vinster on Oct 4, 2017 20:45:34 GMT -5
I recall there being a file called Results something that lived in the install folder, it was the same file that was used for every bench and it was just overwritten. it even had "results" in the filename. I can't check as I don't have it installed on anything atm.
if you hunt in the PCMark05 install folder you'll find it.
Vin
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Post by Bones on Oct 4, 2017 21:53:30 GMT -5
I'll check that and yes, that does sound familiar. Thanks!
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Post by Vinster on Oct 4, 2017 22:03:57 GMT -5
I'll check that and yes, that does sound familiar. Thanks! just looked at an old sub I did.. filename is called result.txt Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 5, 2017 0:37:54 GMT -5
Program files\PCMark05\Results.txt
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Post by Bones on Oct 5, 2017 2:22:28 GMT -5
Thanks - Went in and found it so all is well there. ATM I"m trying to install XP and setup a striped RAID array but as you've already guessed it's not working. Believe I know what to do, I'll have to Nlite the OS and slip the drivers in. However the OS copy I have came from an iso so I'll have to see if Nlite can't extract it anyway and let me do this.
Luckily I have the floppy with the NF4 RAID drivers on it so that's not an issue.
Nlite, slip them in and reburn it IF Nlite can extract the OS itself from the disk/file I have.
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