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Post by Macsbeach98 on Apr 13, 2020 20:11:02 GMT -5
They will all work and are basically the same thing you are changing the VID same sort of thing as changing the VID with a cpu. I would probably go with the third pic its the easiest. The 7950GT I have got uses the same controller ISL6568 its got a closed feedback loop and VIDS are the main control. The 7900GTX uses a Primarion controller its a simple trimmer mod.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 13, 2020 22:38:35 GMT -5
They will all work and are basically the same thing you are changing the VID same sort of thing as changing the VID with a cpu. I would probably go with the third pic its the easiest. The 7950GT I have got uses the same controller ISL6568 its got a closed feedback loop and VIDS are the main control. The 7900GTX uses a Primarion controller its a simple trimmer mod. OK good, that is exactly the information I needed. Thank you! What about V-Ram over-volt. Is it a similar deal?
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Post by Bones on Apr 13, 2020 23:12:11 GMT -5
This is so much fun to watch. This is how it used to be. Good old fashioned competition without all of the Bot bullshit. You guys are having fun. That was the ideal, no restrictions on cooling so you can go all out if you want.
The restrictions I have in place are to challenge benchers for a better score, not to hold anyone back.
I'm thinkng about a few things I could do here. Not sure if anything will come of it but doesn't hurt to dream (Nightmare? ) you know.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Apr 14, 2020 2:29:18 GMT -5
There should be a simple 8 pin or 16 pin controller down toward the bottom corner for memory I will put up pic later denoting where you will find it will need the number off of it.
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Post by Bones on Apr 14, 2020 2:40:14 GMT -5
Having a problem in 05 - It keeps kicking out to desktop at the place in the first test where the big container is about to fall and crush the guy left over from the gatling gun attack. Doesn't matter how I have it set, it just keeps kicking out. Driver issue?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Apr 14, 2020 7:21:37 GMT -5
WHat driver? Try dropping your CPU clock a little. I had the same sort of problem thought the card was at fault at first.
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Post by Bones on Apr 14, 2020 7:39:57 GMT -5
Does it stock or clocked - CPU speed doesn't seem to matter. I'll keep working with it and the GPU driver is version 10.2 I'm using with it. Also I haven't messed with any of the GPU's clocks, those are running at stock too.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Apr 14, 2020 7:42:10 GMT -5
Jon here is the mem mod the controller is a Intersil 6549 make sure the first 4 numbers on the controller are as in the pic its a simple 20K ohm trimmer to ground on pin 4. Make sure the trimmer is set to max resistance you know that you only use 2 legs of the trimmer cut one of the outer legs off. Or you can solder both your wires from the trimmer to the ends of the resistor I have marked for the pencil mod. If you go with a pencil mod measure the resistance on pin 4 mine measured 606 ohms and just shade the resistor so the resistance reads 580 ohms on pin 4 and try it if you want more shade it down to 560 ohms take it down 20 ohms at a time. From memory the voltage should be 2v standard. Voltage measure points I have marked on the front of the card either on the chokes of the caps it doesnt matter which ever is easiest for you If you have any questions just ask.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 8:38:09 GMT -5
Awesome Pete. Will play around with this tonight.
Have the water block mounted, Ill need to disassemble it from the card. Thanks a million. Im going to give this a go.
Right now core clockes only 640mhz. Gained only 20 with the water block.
Using driver 307 I believe, but was a 2000 jump in points from 197.45 (if I remember the numb we right.) Any recommendation on a driver, or jist keep this one.
Issue is the driver drops mid benchmark and kills the score.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 8:39:08 GMT -5
Does it stock or clocked - CPU speed doesn't seem to matter. I'll keep working with it and the GPU driver is version 10.2 I'm using with it. Also I haven't messed with any of the GPU's clocks, those are running at stock too. Use an older Driver Bones. I think I used the 9.7. Edit: no it was the 9.11 driver. I remeber cause its the same as the Ageia driver I like to use numerically.
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Post by Bones on Apr 14, 2020 8:43:49 GMT -5
I thought it may be a driver version issue. I did find a few older versions and got those, 8.5 and 9.5 to try. I also found a site that has all of them listed - Tried downloading and the connection would time out but appears to show all drivers versions that's possible to get.
Grabbed what I got from 3D Guru using the link as a version reference.
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Post by Aleslammer on Apr 14, 2020 9:04:25 GMT -5
Bones, got the 3D03 up. Two VGA's down 7950 GT no post codes, 1950XT makes the board make noise but no post.
Might try a new download of 3D05 (if you haven't) had the same problem awhile ago.
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Post by Bones on Apr 14, 2020 9:35:05 GMT -5
Got it in for you. I'll try the different driver version first and go from there. The copy I have from my archive does work (Has before) so I don't believe that's the problem here.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Apr 14, 2020 15:28:18 GMT -5
Awesome Pete. Will play around with this tonight. Have the water block mounted, Ill need to disassemble it from the card. Thanks a million. Im going to give this a go. Right now core clockes only 640mhz. Gained only 20 with the water block. Using driver 307 I believe, but was a 2000 jump in points from 197.45 (if I remember the numb we right.) Any recommendation on a driver, or jist keep this one. Issue is the driver drops mid benchmark and kills the score. My OC on that card was 700 / 900 on the stock cooler. Try another driver. Those figures were on XP 197.45. Only other drivers I would use are XP 169.21 or XP 182.50.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 16:37:45 GMT -5
Awesome Pete. Will play around with this tonight. Have the water block mounted, Ill need to disassemble it from the card. Thanks a million. Im going to give this a go. Right now core clockes only 640mhz. Gained only 20 with the water block. Using driver 307 I believe, but was a 2000 jump in points from 197.45 (if I remember the numb we right.) Any recommendation on a driver, or jist keep this one. Issue is the driver drops mid benchmark and kills the score. My OC on that card was 700 / 900 on the stock cooler. Try another driver. Those figures were on XP 197.45. Only other drivers I would use are XP 169.21 or XP 182.50. The first driver I tried was the 197.45. Was dropping the driver much earlier than the latest 307 I had installed. 700mhz though? From what it's doing here.. that's a long shot. Looking at 20c on a load is the highest temp I've witnessed so far (have the waterblock on it obviously) I'm using XP 32 bit. Would that make a difference here maybe? Should I be using x64? (I don't have slim X64 ftw)
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Post by Mr.Scott on Apr 14, 2020 18:25:35 GMT -5
No, it was 32 bit XP.
Just looked at my subs for that card. It seems that the only 700 / 900 subs I had were on XP on a Z170 Skylake setup. All the rest were on a AMD Deneb setup, and the clock on those were all in the 630-640 / 875-900 range. I only ran that card 12 times total. Maybe platform made the difference.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Apr 14, 2020 19:07:23 GMT -5
Platform does make a difference my card has done 783 / 921 on Skylake the best I can get on the DFI is 720 /920.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 19:21:20 GMT -5
OK, then at least I'm not going crazy chasing 700mhz core clocks then! Phew!
Still worth it for a simple modification though right?
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Post by Mr.Scott on Apr 14, 2020 19:34:11 GMT -5
Platform does make a difference my card has done 783 / 921 on Skylake the best I can get on the DFI is 720 /920. Thank you for that info. Makes me feel better.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 22:05:48 GMT -5
Log. Vmem pencil mod complete. Measured 580 ohm. Shade with pencil brought resistance to 508 ohm.
Next the vcore mod. Will do the 1.5v and see where that takes it.
Ok did the vcore mod. Used a wire and soldered using the 3rd pic as Macsbeach suggested. About to fire it up here in a second. Gotta get my measure points and see how it turned out.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 23:56:49 GMT -5
Macsbeach98Thank you sir for the help. Was a pretty easy straight forward modification. Tested OC starting at 640mhz, passed 3DMark03. Test 2 done at 666mhz Memory 775mhz passed 3DMark03 once again. Couldn't get a reading at idle at the v-core points you listed. I don't know if I had good contact with the leads after several attempts I gave up so I didn't want to short the caps by crossing leads. Besides, My fan goes there! Gotta cool them mems. They are running a tad warmer, so the pencil mod worked, but haven't gone past any spectacular clocks to have provin the over-volt is working. Any how enough talk, here's the eye candies.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Apr 15, 2020 1:24:30 GMT -5
Looks good Jon
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Post by Mr.Scott on Apr 15, 2020 16:09:50 GMT -5
WTG Jonny.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 15, 2020 16:34:08 GMT -5
Thanks guys.
Just to let you fellas know, that's the very first hard mod that involved soldering, that I've ever done. Just happy I didn't kill the card!! I did pass 3DMark03 at 700mhz last night and stopped there, it was super late. But well worth the time invested. Thank both of you guys for everything as always.
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Post by zila1 on Apr 15, 2020 19:50:51 GMT -5
Jon...….you should have seen my hands shaking when I did a vdroop hardmod on a then brand new GA-990FXA-UD5 Rev. 1 board. I had a lot of money invested in that board but it was one of those bad Giga models. Scottie coached me thru that one too Jon. A super small SMD had to be swapped out. It turned out real well and was one of my favorite boards after that. I still have it to this day. My eyes were crossed during the whole operation. LOL Edit: by the way, nice job Jon.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 15, 2020 22:07:44 GMT -5
Jon...….you should have seen my hands shaking when I did a vdroop hardmod on a then brand new GA-990FXA-UD5 Rev. 1 board. I had a lot of money invested in that board but it was one of those bad Giga models. Scottie coached me thru that one too Jon. A super small SMD had to be swapped out. It turned out real well and was one of my favorite boards after that. I still have it to this day. My eyes were crossed during the whole operation. LOL Edit: by the way, nice job Jon. Haha. Hands shaking was on my first couple soldered de-lids. I know exactly the feeling. I am comfortable with soldering, I do it quite often. Just not in the same type of application, most of the time it's a repair of a broken wire. So why did the 990FXA board need the vdroop mod? The LLC did not work?
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Post by cbjaust on Apr 16, 2020 9:30:52 GMT -5
Windows XP - the disappointment OS: 3DMark 2001 SE looks like my OS is about 33% worse than one would expect. Aquamark also easily 33% down vs my score on Server 2003 R2 as well. Oh well picked up a cpouple of cups and team points from Socket A so it's not all bad.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 16, 2020 14:10:53 GMT -5
Windows XP - the disappointment OS: 3DMark 2001 SE looks like my OS is about 33% worse than one would expect. Aquamark also easily 33% down vs my score on Server 2003 R2 as well. Oh well picked up a cpouple of cups and team points from Socket A so it's not all bad.
Pretty sure there is an optimization thread for XP benching here somewhere. Im on mobile so wont look for it now but maybe later as I kinda should have a read on it as well.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Apr 16, 2020 15:18:46 GMT -5
Windows XP - the disappointment OS: 3DMark 2001 SE looks like my OS is about 33% worse than one would expect. Aquamark also easily 33% down vs my score on Server 2003 R2 as well. Oh well picked up a cpouple of cups and team points from Socket A so it's not all bad.
Your 8x AGP is running at PCI speed. You need to install GART driver.
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Post by cbjaust on Apr 16, 2020 23:50:53 GMT -5
Windows XP - the disappointment OS: 3DMark 2001 SE looks like my OS is about 33% worse than one would expect. Aquamark also easily 33% down vs my score on Server 2003 R2 as well. Oh well picked up a cpouple of cups and team points from Socket A so it's not all bad.
Your 8x AGP is running at PCI speed. You need to install GART driver. Oof, I did not notice that! Thanks for pointing it out. I swear, between Server 2003 R2 and Windows XP Pro, I have one complete operating system.
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