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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 9, 2019 23:31:54 GMT -5
Hope so too. But then its my own fault getting a low end board.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 10, 2019 12:53:19 GMT -5
Should I de-lid the Athlon? I'm curious if it's soldered or not. It's only 35W so I don't see why it would "need" to be....
Yea, it's Sunday. I'll be back in a couple hours hopefully.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 10, 2019 14:59:33 GMT -5
Successful. No solder. It runs super cool in comparison to the 2700X even at the same core count and similar voltage. I can handle 1.6v with the TEC. Right now TEC removed. At idle on the geothermal is only 5.8c and is actually colder than most winters this season due to the super cold snap we had. Generally the water delta is about 3-5c higher about 8.5 give or take. So here's what a Ryzen Based Athlon 200GE looks like with Vega graphics under the hood.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 11, 2019 12:06:06 GMT -5
The TEC has me at a slight advantage. Processor with SMT is no good past 3.8Ghz. Turned that off just to see a stable 3900Mhz. Was able to push further with the nice freezing temps of the TEC. Cannot replicate the clocks and PiFast score you will see below with my Geothermal water loop.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 11, 2019 15:49:15 GMT -5
NB Mem wont go faster than that.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 11, 2019 19:19:14 GMT -5
Im not sure if thats a question or statement..... It will go faster with a very loose timing set. The NB can go higher... The IMC doesnt like anything over 2666mhz though...
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 11, 2019 20:03:27 GMT -5
It was a question you want the IMC as fast as you can even though the mem timings are looser with AM3 the IMC could be adjusted separately to mem speed unfortunately with these they are tied 400mhz IMC would be holding it back.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 12, 2019 0:01:52 GMT -5
Im just not good with pimod. Using the wrong os to start with. I figured second place to the guy running 4.9ghz on ss is pretty good. Yea the time could be better, I accomplished my goal any ways with a full gaming os....
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 12, 2019 0:13:08 GMT -5
The Pimod is Ok Jon 2nd is good. I am waiting to see those powerful Vega 3 GPU benches.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 12, 2019 0:30:48 GMT -5
I am also, but waiting for the 220GE as it should come with a higher base clock and hopefully higher over-all OC as a result, I believe the 200GE and 220GE have the same Vega Graphics chip.
Now sure if I can even overclock the Vega iGPU as I cannot raise bus (reference) clocks on my particular board.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 12, 2019 8:43:12 GMT -5
There should be a separate setting for that take the IGPU off auto onto manual and it should give you frequency adjustment.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 28, 2019 17:04:48 GMT -5
2700x solder removed, TIM in place. Not exactly a no no?
I've JUST popped in the 2700x without solder. Used paste under/over the IHS plate, on top the stock air cooler. It posted. No throttling yet either. Ran a WPrime 1024M and the fans kept up around 65c. 1.275v @ 4ghz. VRMs set to extreme for a little extra, input is 1.212v (auto).
Honestly, I don't see a huge temp jump with the solder removed.
Not on this board. I did not do any igpu benching on the 200GE. Will try this again later with the 220GE. (same iGpu) way better cpu clocks.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 28, 2019 23:33:27 GMT -5
Yea it's a bit warmer, but not as bad as I'd thought. Hit 66.5c during these benchmarks and stress testing past 70c but under 80c 30 minutes. Current settings in the screen shot below are stock with memory frequency increase only. XFR/PBO/CPB are enabled, the cpu is clocking it'self. Throttling to 3.9ghz at 65c or higher. Folding at Home temps where decent at 3.7ghz (static) and XFR/PBO/CPB disabled where 48c. F@H temps with XFR/PBO/CPB Enabled are 63c multi x39.75/x39.50 (throttling @ 60c) Automatically. Additional comment. With XFR/PBO/CPB disabled, cpu ran benching and stressing and F@H 3.7ghz 1.190v with peaks at 1.212v VRM on auto temps always under 60c. F@H temps/settings
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 7:35:15 GMT -5
Have You tryed Y-cruncher on Your Ryzen platforms ? Can be tricky with high mem useage. I spent some time while I could see the end of a run with 12Gb ram useage. Could succesfully run anything but Cruncher stopped. The final key to have a 3466 setup for 24/7 again what is also Y-cruncher proof was bios backflash to 1.0.0.6 agesa.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 7:43:13 GMT -5
Yea a few times. I'm not really familiar with Y-cruncher benchmarks though.
So I just ran a 1,000,000,000 with low memory usuage at 3.7ghz (my folding clocks) and it passed without issues even while having the chrome browser open and steam running ect.
I wouldn't know what to submit for a score though. Total computation time: 89.565 seconds (1.493 minutes) Start to ENd Wall Time: 99.351 seconds (1.656 minutes) Heck not even sure if 1,000,000,000 is even submit-able lol.
Is there a particular setting I should bench for comparison? Should I try with 12GB of memory loaded just to help?
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 7:49:05 GMT -5
Not submit anything just used it as a stability test. Higher mem useage is harder to pass. Could do the 5.2Gb but 12Gb version failed.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 8:12:38 GMT -5
Have 14.7GB of 16 in total usage.
BKT: Passed Test time: 121.819 seconds (2.030 minutes) 51.3c BBP: Passed Test time: 127.626 seconds (2.127 minutes) 62.8c SFT: Passed Test time: 120.057 seconds (2.001 minutes) 63.3c N64: Errors encountered on logical core 8 and 14. Coefficient is too large
Test Failed. Test Time: 124.016 seconds (2.067 minutes)
Should I be running OCCT linpack for system testing? I don't know if Y-Cruncher is viable testing?
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 8:14:56 GMT -5
Oh forgot to mention memory clocks and timings.
16GB Corsair @ 1429.9Mhz 16-17-17-17-35-52 1T 1.250v (this could be why failed)
edit: wonder if I should run XMP voltage of 1.35v instead???
additional comment: Also system has been up and running 3days 13 hours and some change, 2 days of 3 F@H cpu and Gpu.
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 8:25:17 GMT -5
Oh forgot to mention memory clocks and timings. 16GB Corsair @ 1429.9Mhz 16-17-17-17-35-52 1T 1.250v (this could be why failed) edit: wonder if I should run XMP voltage of 1.35v instead??? additional comment: Also system has been up and running 3days 13 hours and some change, 2 days of 3 F@H cpu and Gpu. Like mine. Everything was fine but that Y-cruncher failed. Made me upset. :DDD I mentioned it because I found it to show any little mem / imc unstability very succesfull way. After finetune (many finetune.. ) I can run it now. Vdimm can be the key if You see issues with high mem useage but even a small plus voltage should solve it.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 8:29:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up on this!! I'd be sure my memory isn't 100% stable at the current clocks. It won't even post up at 3000Mhz (1500) ever. Just a black screen and on off cycles. My Asus Prime B450M-A is horrible for running high memory clocks. But in return I can run lower clocks at tighter latency seemingly without issues.
I'm not upset because Y-Cruncher failed though. I dropped the ball and never looked at the system settings before I started testing. But I fear not a fail. It's good for learning.
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 8:35:54 GMT -5
Wasn't real upset even just know how it usually happens. You are happy with Your stable system till You don't know it isn't stable. )) But maybe You are right that Y-cruncher with that setting is such a load that You have never had at any 24/7 case.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 8:39:39 GMT -5
Agreed! That's the highest I've seen the temps go also. My daily usage even F@H @ 96% average cpu usage doesn't run that hot. It's like running IBT or Prime95 AVX. My gaming temps on the cpu are even lower than the folding temps.
I should back down the Memory OC. I know it's right on edge. Even if I tweak the current clock speeds on this board, it may never be TRUE stable.
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 9:25:23 GMT -5
Ryzen ram oc to do it fast and also stable is not so easy on Ryzen. However You should work on it because ram settings are very important to have a good performance. More important than have higher cpu clocks. So You have to balance between a maxed out timing table and stability. I'm lucky because I like tweaking mems and Am4 is really interesting from this side so didn't broke too many keyboards till I have a fine setting for me. :DDD Here is my actual setup : As I see there are some bad readouts. Cmdstr's are not 120Ohms but 53 and 20 but timings seems correct.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 9:34:09 GMT -5
To be honest Ive been spending the last couple of days on socket 462pin. And looking for my misplaced xp disks. Ive done some recent cleaning and boxing some un used parts but the disks are not in the box.
So far my Ryzen is stable enough at above clocks and timings. I dont use a single program to tell all stability. But in the future I can use y cruncher to help check memory setups.
I did find that 2666 at cas 14-13-13 does very well in comparison to higher clocks and much looser timings. I do not have an exceptional AM4 moyherboard to properly tweak my hardwares.
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 9:36:37 GMT -5
To be honest Ive been spending the last couple of days on socket 462pin. And looking for my misplaced xp disks. Ive done some recent cleaning and boxing some un used parts but the disks are not in the box. So far my Ryzen is stable enough at above clocks and timings. I dont use a single program to tell all stability. But in the future I can use y cruncher to help check memory setups. I did find that 2666 at cas 14-13-13 does very well in comparison to higher clocks and much looser timings. I do not have an exceptional AM4 moyherboard to properly tweak my hardwares. Hehe ! S462 was the task for me too at the last few days.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 5, 2019 10:03:32 GMT -5
To be honest Ive been spending the last couple of days on socket 462pin. And looking for my misplaced xp disks. Ive done some recent cleaning and boxing some un used parts but the disks are not in the box. So far my Ryzen is stable enough at above clocks and timings. I dont use a single program to tell all stability. But in the future I can use y cruncher to help check memory setups. I did find that 2666 at cas 14-13-13 does very well in comparison to higher clocks and much looser timings. I do not have an exceptional AM4 moyherboard to properly tweak my hardwares. Hehe ! S462 was the task for me too at the last few days. I'm around the 2.6ghz frequency on TEC cooling 1.944v v-core. I'm missing something (XP disk) because people at similar frequency are 3 seconds faster (roughly). Running Athlon XP 2400+ Thorough Bred. Plus they may be using other tweaks I may not know about. I like sheer clock speed anyways. Won't bench much over 2.6ghz, might validat 2.7ghz on a lucky day cpu-z though.
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Post by alpi on May 5, 2019 10:11:35 GMT -5
I'm using simple tiny xp. Gives guite good performance. You can kill a few things from a beast edition even. Gives a really light background. (3 sec at an spi32 is nothing ! lol. :DDDDD )
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