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Post by georgekokovinis on Dec 30, 2018 16:42:48 GMT -5
Correction -
RTX 2080 Ti X2 = 3000 $ ( cheap...) Titan RTX X2 = 5000 $
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Post by Vinster on Dec 30, 2018 21:15:39 GMT -5
out here in Canada...
I wish I got then at the prices that were in the US and in other countries
Vin
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Post by zila1 on Jan 1, 2019 22:14:03 GMT -5
So Jon, how is the under volting going? I'm trying to see how low of a vcore I can use at 4000MHz. This board has a fair amount of droop so LLC needs to be up high to compensate for it. You seeing something similar with your board?
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 2, 2019 16:36:07 GMT -5
Good but also found some interesting things going on, see if I can compare with you a little.
So I bumped to 3800Mhz from stock 1.212v. Say the reference/FSB/BCLK or w/e you want to call it nowadays.... actually dropping significantly. So dropping from 99.75 (like it is now) down to as low as 97.25 and was making it seem or look like the system was throttling. A bump in v-core did indeed help 100% with that issue. So I bumped it to 1.3v and she ran just fine.
I really do believe AMD has the 2700X at it's most efficient from the box. From the looks of how this cpu acts, it would almost be best to let it run stock and call it efficient.
Still have further testing to do. Wanted to get back to 4100Mhz to continue folding as Vin's rig has been having issues and he's done such a fab job of earning us some serious points, I just want to keep plugging away for now. I will get back to it at some point. I already know this cpu needs 1.4v to run 4100Mhz. Was just curious how'd she act....
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Post by zila1 on Jan 2, 2019 19:39:40 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to agree with you on just leaving the chip alone at auto/stock settings. I flashed the mother board with the very latest bios(4207)and it is performing much better on auto. I never thought I'd see the day when my rig would actually auto clock itself...........and do it well. Being an old time clocker that was hard for me to say.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 2, 2019 19:47:09 GMT -5
LOL.
I've done all of my OCs with this platform through bios. The apps just suck period.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 12, 2019 19:22:29 GMT -5
Here's a little memory tweaking. Board won't let me run Cas 13. But was able to shave off nearly .1 seconds. Edit: And I mean I select C13, but it only posts C14.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 13, 2019 11:06:54 GMT -5
Finishing up OC touches. Not much more I can do without going to a much colder cooling method. Finally got into the 1900cb range, and where people say the performance should be at. 8/16 c/t @ 4.3Ghz 2666 @ 14-13-13-31-46 1T 1.25v .
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jan 28, 2019 21:54:02 GMT -5
OK here's my max CBR15 score so far to date. 4325Mhz 43.25 multi @ 1.5v memory is 2666 14-13-13-31-46 1T 1.2550v This is the max it will run SMT enabled with a manual OC with lowered room temps still on the stock coola. This is the 15th saved run for this processor. I only save the next best score.
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Post by alpi on Feb 12, 2019 17:33:35 GMT -5
Guys ! I'm in love ! I've bought a Ryzen and... Hmmm . How it could happen !? It's so interesting, so different than any other thing from the last generations. It won't be an overclocking milestone at Hwbot, it's still rough a bit but the taste.. I felt that. It's the taste of the golden era of Amd. The relationship between cpu and memory, the endless fine tuning ability. One or two generation and a world beater will born, I'm sure. Is this really came next to Fm's ? Lol I bought a Crosshair VI. It's amazing too. Became one of my favourite board all time.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Feb 12, 2019 17:52:58 GMT -5
Oh nice!!! That's a good chip there. What cooling are you using?
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Post by alpi on Feb 12, 2019 18:14:04 GMT -5
Oh nice!!! That's a good chip there. What cooling are you using? Watercooled but don't think any highend stuff. A 360 slim rad shared with a 980ti. The good temps are made by the cpu. The way it's working. First time at 4.2 ghz it reached 70-75 degree peak temps. I'm finding better settings from day to day.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Feb 12, 2019 18:17:57 GMT -5
It's a fun setup. Glad you picked a better board than I did. It performs very well. I cannot run 4ghz at 1.22v either. I've tried everything to lower voltage, but it wants more for stability. Not sure why, but I think it's the Low end B450M-A that I am using that does not have a lot of settings and bios is not fully optimized by Asus either....
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Post by alpi on Feb 12, 2019 18:29:14 GMT -5
It's a fun setup. Glad you picked a better board than I did. It performs very well. I cannot run 4ghz at 1.22v either. I've tried everything to lower voltage, but it wants more for stability. Not sure why, but I think it's the Low end B450M-A that I am using that does not have a lot of settings and bios is not fully optimized by Asus either.... Yes, unfortunatelly we still can't find if the cpu or imc or bios or what the hell is ignoring a setup. No one believed Ryzen has any chance on living, so didn't put any energy in it. That's what we could see I think. And it's quite a shame... The two Crosshair board were first "ready" made boards. But the pack is growing from day to day from bios to bios. I made my decision between CR6H because of it's good price/performance (I've heard some good things from it earlier) rate. First I wanted a Crosshair 7 but it costs twice as much which wasn't so good news for me. Now I have to say, I'm so happy to choose Cr6H. Crosshair 6 Hero and a Ryzen 5 2600 is a killer duo if we see the price / performance. ok.. performance is true only if we see an 24/7 use. It's pretty useless for Hwbot for example. But maybe we can call it a price / fun ratio. To tell the truth I can't remember that I felt this level of excitement and fun in the past times. Thank You Amd ! I (but guess I can say We) need this so badly !
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Feb 17, 2019 12:54:34 GMT -5
OK so I had a little blue screen happen. First time so far, thinking GPU issues, but cannot replicate. So may not be a GPU issue..... Let me explain.
Came down and found the system running but no screen. Was black. Unplugged the monitor and plugged back in, still black. unplugged HDMI and plugged back in. Caps lock worked the light flashed with the button, so I know the system was still active. So had to hit the reset switch. I hate doing that, don't need corruptions..... So any way, it posted fine, I was browsing doing nothing stressful and an out of nowhere blue screen. Ok, I let the system reboot and everything has been just fine.
So I decided after 2 hours of waiting for a blue screen, I reset all defaults and restarted and have been running the system stock since late last night. No issues. Everything is fine.
Stock at load F@H right now for the past 10 minutes only, I've only seen temps rise to 51.0c and is steady at this temp. It truly runs super cool at stock.
I do notice a difference running stock VS my daily which was at the time of BS 4.4Ghz x8 @ 1.50v and was run so for many days... couple weeks basically. Occasionally changing the overclock but leaving the memory at 2666 41-13-13-13 and never had an issue with memory since I came across these super stable timings passing all stress testing and real world computing. So right now the memory is stock 1066 15-15-15-15 and oh this thing seems 10% slower in reaction time. Cinebench R15 (not extreme) scores are very low at 1726cb lol. During stress testing temps only reach 56.4c and that's fine by me.
Not sure what the blue screen was all about. I cannot replicate it. System ran all night came back all working normally and 2 restarts since this morning and still at stock. GTX 770 is always stock unless I bench it. I return to defaults and restart the system gaming or benching.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Feb 17, 2019 14:39:56 GMT -5
Solid black screen is usually GPU driver crash. That could have been caused by anything. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Feb 17, 2019 16:43:03 GMT -5
That's kinda what I was hoping to hear You made my day.
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Post by zila1 on Feb 17, 2019 16:53:03 GMT -5
That's kinda what I was hoping to hear You made my day. I think you slapped her too hard.
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Post by zila1 on Feb 17, 2019 16:56:29 GMT -5
alpi : Yes!!!! Nice setup. Crosshair VI Hero nice board and you have some fast ram too. Really nice. I just picked up a Crosshair VII Hero and gonna start playing around with that in a couple days maybe. This is so exciting.
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Post by alpi on Feb 17, 2019 17:31:25 GMT -5
alpi : Yes!!!! Nice setup. Crosshair VI Hero nice board and you have some fast ram too. Really nice. I just picked up a Crosshair VII Hero and gonna start playing around with that in a couple days maybe. This is so exciting. Thx ! I'm really love this stuff. Fast rams ? Actually it's a quite cheap Corsair 3600c18 kit, they really shouldn't go so good, but somehow they do it anyway. A2 pcb Bdie, it was horror even in my Apex 9 too, I didn't gave a penny for any mentionable performance in Am4 but it works. Ryzen's have so much things to discover and understand. This makes it more interesting sometimes.
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Post by orl on Feb 18, 2019 13:53:55 GMT -5
Just a heads up, I am sure you guys have observed this already. But the Ryzen 2XXX series are responding to memory overclocks unlike other CPUs I've ever seen. Especially noticeable in gaming and similar benchmarks.
I was testing mine in just an offhand experiment with ESO and the stock clocks of 2133 vs running the 3200(AMD)XMP profile on the X470 without upclocking from there, I seen a gain of nearly 10-15FPS from around 35 to 50 right off the bat in CPU bound areas (Lots of players). This tells me the IMC on these chips is very restrictive and actually holds the cpu IPC back. This stresses the importance of memory speeds and latency like the days of old when dealing with earlier versions of AMD cpus.
While this might translate to another factor on my system not being tweaked yet as its stock except the XMP settings, I wont address this in clocking it until after my TIM burns in. I was honestly shocked to see this drastic change. I knew the memory speed was directly tied to the new chip design with the infinity fabric, I just didn't know it was this big of a difference. Take the time to really turn up your memory and see just what it can do.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Feb 18, 2019 16:40:40 GMT -5
I can only run 2666 but decent tight timings of 14-13-13-13-31-46 1T 1.2250v. The support for my Prime B450M-A board is super shitty, like not even there. I wait for a memory support bios update, while my A320 and 1400 rig can run 3000Mhz all day and does. I never updated the bios, and Pete had suggested it nearly a year after ownership and BAM! The 1400 hammers out memory clocks super easily. Blows my 2700X out of the water in the memory department and I can't even OC the dang Cpu on that chipset. Makes me kinda like want to call Asus and let them have it, but I know it wont do any good at all, so I;ll never bother to do so.
I really like the new chips respond to memory overclocking that well. Fells good to increase fps and scores just by memory tweaking.
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Post by alpi on Feb 18, 2019 16:51:57 GMT -5
That is what I realize too ! It hails for good memory ! Insane things can be seen ! Look the difference in Cb R15 even. 30-40-50 points higher score with a little ram oc ! Newer bioses brings still huge performance upgrades for this platform. Still not clear how the borders of those chips are. Pretty crazy things are easily reachable now compared to the first revisions. This was the point when I was know, I won't be disappointed ! Just try to remember if You see any bad Amd what is scaling good to memory. Won't find any.
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Post by orl on Feb 18, 2019 17:41:14 GMT -5
Well, I got sick of waiting. Threw 4.1Ghz at it with 1.35V and Medium LLC, I am an hour into Prime95 Blend, top temp so far is 59C and holding, no errors. I think this is going to be a fun chip under water my friends. I will take her up more shortly. Unless I get distracted by family life.
I should note, temp doesn't accurately reflect what it would be cooling if I over-ride the PWM, fans are at 70% or so speed to hold this temp. Not sure what I will get if I just cut them loose.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Feb 18, 2019 18:55:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, perhaps you mentioned it but I can't find it.....
What exactly is your system specs lol. ??
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Post by orl on Feb 18, 2019 22:16:08 GMT -5
No problem bud.
Ryzen 2600 Asus TUF x470 Plus Asus 2060RTX G-Skill Trident Z 3200 2x8Gb 16:18:18:38 (Not Tuned Yet) Enermax Revo 85+ 1020w (overkill, came from my FX system, but hey, headroom right?) Full Under water with a mix of EK and AquaComputer parts, EK-MX/Evo(Upgraded) EK PE 360 Rads (Best rads for push only for the space I had) Fans are ALL Be Quiet! SW3
House is about 65-70F ambient for winter.
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Post by zila1 on Feb 19, 2019 19:37:54 GMT -5
Crosshair VII Hero installed today. The sound on this board is awesome. I am doing some gaming tonight. The sound in game is just awesome. I will get to some tuning later on. There are so many options in the bios it's gonna take days or even weeks to figure them all out and see which ones benefit my current setup best. I love the board. LOVE IT!!! This is a tweakers board. Just what I like.
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Post by orl on Feb 19, 2019 20:14:44 GMT -5
Crosshair VII Hero installed today. The sound on this board is awesome. I am doing some gaming tonight. The sound in game is just awesome. I will get to some tuning later on. There are so many options in the bios it's gonna take days or even weeks to figure them all out and see which ones benefit my current setup best. I love the board. LOVE IT!!! This is a tweakers board. Just what I like. Excellent! Best wishes to you on this one. They are good boards, a few troubles I seen in some other forums but over all a favorite among many. I still use an old fashioned sound card for the theater and unfortunately, my HS70 wireless has its own audio processing. The bios in those things is like the old DFI vs the competition or a few generations back Sabertooth motherboards. Its comprehensive to say the least, and can also frustrate the hell out of you haha!
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 9, 2019 22:42:35 GMT -5
Yay! New bios update! Check out this description. Up coming processors huh? Cpu compatibility? I suppose that answers the question if my board will support the new processors being released this year. In other news, I fired up a new Athlon 200GE. Slapped the TEC on it right out of the box. Haha. No temp reading with any software. It's pinned at 0c. I assume that it's below zero and it just doesn't read under a certain temp. At some point I'll try an ambient posting. But not today. 500Mhz static OC. Cpu voltage is on auto. I only changed the multiplier. Runs about 3.7Ghz. Will push higher later. Going to update bios shortly.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 9, 2019 22:58:27 GMT -5
I'm hoping for much better ram performance on your board. That would be so cool.
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