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Post by Bones on Mar 26, 2019 23:45:04 GMT -5
Doing a Ryzen build and the parts are on their way already.  Was wanting a TR at first but finally decided to just go Ryzen and be done with it.
Poked around over at TPU to get a little feedback from others about what boards to run with it, those I wasn't clear on with the recent goofs from Asus - That being my normal goto brand. Those guys are all over the place with what they have and just asked and let them say what was what.
All the rest I pretty much had covered and already had a plan in mind for the build anyway - That's why I never bothered to mention it here, just needed to know what was a quality brand for Ryzen based stuff since it seems Asus dropped and lost the ball on that.
Here's the list of what I picked up for this build:
And since I was getting tired of just being short on good B-die for my use: Blingy in a nice-n-cheesy way.  |
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Post by cbjaust on Mar 26, 2019 23:52:42 GMT -5
WOW nice build! I have yet to put my Ryzen 7 1800X/Crosshair VI Hero in my daily system but I've been pretty happy with the C6H on the bench so far.
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Post by Bones on Mar 27, 2019 0:10:21 GMT -5
This is for my daily rig and should last awhile.
Still have a few pieces I need to think about to round it out completely and the one I'm using now (Maximus IX Hero) will become the wife's new daily.
That's the plan for now anyway.
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Post by george on Mar 27, 2019 5:25:40 GMT -5
Nice build there. That GPU should keep frames rolling at a good pace. Playing 4K?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 27, 2019 6:13:07 GMT -5
Nice build Rodney I am sure you will have fun with it.  |
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Post by Bones on Mar 27, 2019 7:27:03 GMT -5
Nice build there. That GPU should keep frames rolling at a good pace. Playing 4K? Nope - In fact I don't game period, it's for having a current GPU and to do some folding with. The last one I bought for daily use has lasted for a very long time, intend for this card to do the same for the long haul. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 27, 2019 8:27:32 GMT -5
Yes you do you game HWBot like me. |
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Post by Bones on Mar 27, 2019 8:59:49 GMT -5
Yeah - That too.  |
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Post by zila1 on Mar 28, 2019 21:45:11 GMT -5
Oh my gosh how did I miss this? Really nice rig Rods. Oh man.
Edit: I can imagine your excitement. When I got my new Ryzen 2700X rig I was over the moon. And still am. But that graphics card you got bubba..........oh yeah!
Edit2: Hey bones, is this gonna be a Linux rig??
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Post by Bones on Mar 30, 2019 12:39:29 GMT -5
Web has been down for a few but it's back..... So am I.
Probrably that or a Win 7 machine Zila. Have the drivers for the card that works with Win 7 (Or so it's said) and the board will run it... For now I know it will boot and run the OS but getting all the drivers in place and working, that's yet to be seen.
Keep ya guys posted.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 30, 2019 14:13:12 GMT -5
I'm so excited and I just can't take it. |
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Post by Bones on Mar 30, 2019 16:08:11 GMT -5
In that case you'll pee your pants over this.
The setup on the bench being tested.
Once I can get what I need to round out the wife's setup I can do the build proper.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 30, 2019 16:13:31 GMT -5
I've got a woody goin'  |
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Post by Bones on Mar 30, 2019 19:45:44 GMT -5
I got it goin here too - The system is in and running with Win 7.
Only complaint right now are temps from the CPU being rather high, the cooler I ordered didn't come with the AM4 backplate even though it said AM4 was supported..... Supported my ass it is out of the box. I ain't paying $11 plus $21 more just for them to send me a piece of metal that could be slipped into an envelope and be on it's way.
Good thing is it isn't a total wash, the cooler can be used with other things I have, I'll just get another that actually has the backplate and stuff in it unlike this one.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 30, 2019 19:52:40 GMT -5
Temps with stock cooler??
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Post by Bones on Mar 30, 2019 20:40:34 GMT -5
Was showing 50+ at idle in the BIOS, could be a wonky sensor but the Wraith cooler isn't all that either. Discovered with the cooler the TIM used makes a real difference, Tried it at first with MX4 and temps were shooting up over 65+ with it and then tried AS5 Ceramique, that showed a drop of nearly 15c so that's better but still too high.
Right now the system is doing OK but as said I will be looking into a better cooler for it.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 30, 2019 20:49:11 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty much what I discovered too. That cooler gets real hot in a closed case. High performance processor needs high performance cooling.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 30, 2019 20:57:23 GMT -5
High temps? Bios loads 1 core, so its not really idle. Youd be in windows to see a proper idle temp.
I think you just set the cooler on it like I did with my chipset heatsink. Why would you do that? Lol.
Nice build Rod. You wont really need to overclock it, but Im hoping to see some good results.
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Post by Bones on Mar 30, 2019 22:15:15 GMT -5
I do believe you're right Shrimpy - New platform and lots to learn with it. HWmonitor reading package temps showed 43C so I guess it's fine.
EDIT: Annnnd 5 minutes later it crashed, probrably due to high temps.  |
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Post by zila1 on Mar 30, 2019 22:35:46 GMT -5
Mine would climb 40 degrees above idle temp during stress testing with stock cooler. Lots of heat. Could you see if the temps were climbing when it shut down? I would use hwinfo64 to watch temps. Ryzen Master is okay but I found it to be wonky. And yeah, the stock cooler sucks,
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 31, 2019 8:29:11 GMT -5
How do you mean crash Rodz? You should br able to run load well into the 70s and 80s.
Therm-trip is past 90c..... The board should shut down, but this will only happen if running bios defaults.
At what temp did it crash? Ivr loaded mine into the 80c range I get nervous at 85c myself.
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Post by Bones on Mar 31, 2019 8:58:15 GMT -5
Don't know - Wasn't monitoring CPU temps at the time. However since the machine was folding I suspect it has something to do with the GPU, the card gets nice and toasty I'll admit and that could have been it. Right now I'm letting it fold some and it's not pulling the same PPD as before but could be due to the WU it's working on too. Anyway I did order a different CPU cooler www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZH8KJ7227 and this one should do the job I want it to. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 31, 2019 9:57:51 GMT -5
45$ on another air cooler.... Rodney, you'd be better off spending a few extra on an POS all in one liquid cooler.... I can't imagine any air cooler being good enough for a FX95xx err Phenom II 980BE, even Ryzen 2700x and have any to little head room for an overclock of sorts.
The cheapest way to run the 2700X at cooler temps is to run the P-stats 3.7Ghz 1.212v, but must be one quarter multiplier higher so XFR doesn't automatically kick in.
I found if I can keep under 1.35v, usually can squeeze in a static OC of 4Ghz which seems to be a nice daily clock speed...
Mine seemed a lot faster at 4.4Ghz x4 SMT static OC and realy enjoyed it there more so than trying to keep track of 16 threads and worry about heat.... on air handle 1.5v NP.
No, I don't think SMT is what makes the Ryzen Cpu fast. It suffers from low clock speeds. When you get it down to only 4 cores and higher clocks, you'll see what I'm talking about. There won't be "any boost lag"
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Post by zila1 on Mar 31, 2019 10:21:19 GMT -5
These guys really like being as cool as possible. The chip will clock itself quite nicely once temps are under control. Mine sits at 4 gig all on it's own and then boosts up 4.3ish when it wants. You may be right about the gpu too rods. It's working hard folding. Maybe that needs a little tune up. Also, when ram isn't adjusted just right on Ryzen it will shut down at the desk top too when stressed. Mine would shut down randomly. Drove me nutty at first. Mine likes 1.4 at 3200 cl14. New platform. It's fun as all hell to tune in.
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Post by Bones on Mar 31, 2019 10:41:48 GMT -5
45$ on another air cooler.... Rodney, you'd be better off spending a few extra on an POS all in one liquid cooler.... I can't imagine any air cooler being good enough for a FX95xx err Phenom II 980BE, even Ryzen 2700x and have any to little head room for an overclock of sorts. The cheapest way to run the 2700X at cooler temps is to run the P-stats 3.7Ghz 1.212v, but must be one quarter multiplier higher so XFR doesn't automatically kick in. I found if I can keep under 1.35v, usually can squeeze in a static OC of 4Ghz which seems to be a nice daily clock speed... Mine seemed a lot faster at 4.4Ghz x4 SMT static OC and realy enjoyed it there more so than trying to keep track of 16 threads and worry about heat.... on air handle 1.5v NP. No, I don't think SMT is what makes the Ryzen Cpu fast. It suffers from low clock speeds. When you get it down to only 4 cores and higher clocks, you'll see what I'm talking about. There won't be "any boost lag" Only reason for the cooler is I like to keep things as cool as possible, that's just a thing with me.
I also don't like direct contact coolers, no base to help regulate/absorb spikes in temps as load changes occur, the pipes don't always make consistent contact across them all with the CPU's lid for efficient cooling plus I have to admit the stock cooler (To me) just screams "Cheapness".
It does work but again, it's a thing to me at least.
TBH I'm not looking to OC the build since it's going to be my daily, just set it and forget it with no worries is what I'm looking for.
With the next build done, THEN OC'ing it will be the thing but until that time comes I'm leaving this one alone. I want this build to last and the investment of a better than stock cooler is one way to let it live comfortably for a little longer, all the other stuff I can OC because that's what it's for now..... Except the board and such I just pulled, that's going into the wife's machine with the CBR and 7870K coming out.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 31, 2019 11:53:39 GMT -5
That's a bad ass rig you've got Rods and that's an interesting down draft cooler too. Should keep the entire area around the socket nice and cool. With me, I had coolers sitting on the shelf and just got the new upgraded brackets for them. So I saved a lot of money there. Otherwise I think I would have gone broke purchasing an appropriate cooler too. Getting into a new platform brings a lot of challenges. I love my new Ryzen rigs. I know you love yours too. 
Edit: So how's Windows 7 working out? Got all the drivers for it?
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Post by Bones on Mar 31, 2019 12:34:36 GMT -5
Yep - All the drivers it needs and aside from the one crash it's been good.
Already stashed those for future things and these are "Universal" drivers for the X470 stuff straight from AMD.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 31, 2019 12:41:47 GMT -5
Very cool.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 31, 2019 12:43:35 GMT -5
Well I can no longer run an air cooler with mine. I did not experience any high temps like you and Eddie are claiming. That cpu should idle in the low 30s or closer to room temp. Hopefully your new cooler purchase does the trick. however, I don't think you will find a cure for the spikes of heat the 16 thread processor can produce.
You won't have any issues with W7. I ran it just fine. Full out gaming OS and it benched just fine too.
Lastly, anything past the 3.7Ghz P-state is an overclock. The XFR "boost" feature is an AI controlled overclock based on VRM capabilities and temps of the cpu/system. Just in case you where wondering what (Auto)overclocking means on a Ryzen processor.
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Post by Bones on Mar 31, 2019 12:47:12 GMT -5
Thanks for that, much to learn about the platform and just going with it.
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