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Post by ozz on Jun 22, 2017 18:01:31 GMT -5
Welcome Shane. I did not test them and where new used to me. Sorry it was dead dude. all good shrimpy , thx mate, thats the silicon lottery mate, win some n lose some
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 23, 2017 1:15:25 GMT -5
I didn't has a board to test them when I got them dirt cheap..now I k ow why lol
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Post by ozz on Jun 23, 2017 3:07:13 GMT -5
I didn't has a board to test them when I got them dirt cheap..now I k ow why lol all good shrimpy, the 150 semp boots into bios at least, , thought id try the old faithful, me, 1st am3 board i ever got the asrock 970 pro3 rev 2, its always been a cracker board from day 1 , with what ever i put in it so ill see what happens , gotta do a full reinstall tho coz i had 939 on b4 pete you wanted a 80 gig sata drive the other week didnt ya ? got 1 today, a samsung, works and formatted if you still need it
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 23, 2017 7:18:16 GMT -5
Naa I am right there now Shane. Thanks
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Post by ozz on Jun 23, 2017 7:37:28 GMT -5
Naa I am right there now Shane. Thanks oke doke no probs
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Post by dr4g00n on Jun 23, 2017 10:47:42 GMT -5
Flashed the Expert to an older bios, E704-2BT. No change on the ram front, still doesn't like my 3200XL TCCD or Centon BH-5. I will try to find some OCZ Plat. PC3500 BH-5's somehow.
Going to hook my water loop up to the Ultra-D and start testing my CPU's tomorrow probably.
So far on air, Opty 180, 3140MHz @ 1.47V A64 X2 4800+, 2850MHz @ 1,5V
Still have these to try. A64 4000+, Opty 148 & Opty 170.
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Post by alpi on Jun 23, 2017 10:59:52 GMT -5
Dfi boards have plenty of bioses ! Don't give up after trying only a few ! There are bioses for different ram types not to mention of different cpu revs !! E4 / E6 for example. (imcs are a bit different too) I saw my Ultra-d worked flawless with an E4 but can't post with an E6 with 2 sticks (in dual channel) ! Flashing to another bios solved the problem.
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Post by dr4g00n on Jun 23, 2017 13:37:29 GMT -5
Ah wait, this bios did the trick, just put the BH-5 into the orange slots and it runs perfectly @ 241MHz 2-2-2-5 3.5V. Guess I'll be using the expert then.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2017 15:46:57 GMT -5
Odd that the BH-5 works ok in the orange slots. That is not the norm at all. EDIT- Did some checking. It's because those Centon's are not BH-5. You'll find that they are TCCD. Peel off those heat spreaders and check. You'll also find that 3.5v on TCCD will kill it pretty quick.
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Post by dr4g00n on Jun 23, 2017 16:11:42 GMT -5
Odd that the BH-5 works ok in the orange slots. That is not the norm at all. EDIT- Did some checking. It's because those Centon's are not BH-5. You'll find that they are TCCD. Peel off those heat spreaders and check. You'll also find that 3.5v on TCCD will kill it pretty quick. They are UTT BH-5 on Brainpower PCB. Rated for PC4000 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3-3.5V. insanetek.com/memory/138-centon-advanced-a2x512s4000llu-1gb-dual-channel-kit
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2017 16:29:32 GMT -5
Interesting.....on a couple facets. 1) Winbond UTT and Winbond BH-5 are NOT the same chip. Which one is correct? 2) Every single ram list out there has Centon Advanced listed as TCCD on a Brainpower PCB. i4memory doesn't usually make mistakes.
To be honest, I've never seen anything on this kit before. Was it ever released retail? I'd like to find a set just for the novelty value.
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Post by dr4g00n on Jun 23, 2017 16:37:43 GMT -5
Interesting.....on a couple facets. 1) Winbond UTT and Winbond BH-5 are NOT the same chip. Which one is correct? 2) Every single ram list out there has Centon Advanced listed as TCCD on a Brainpower PCB. i4memory doesn't usually make mistakes. To be honest, I've never seen anything on this kit before. Was it ever released retail? I'd like to find a set just for the novelty value. Ah, I thought they were the same. I'll pull the heatspreader off one and see for sure. I don't know much about the kit though, it looked interesting so I bought them with the dfi boards. Not sure if it ever went retail, that review is the only one that I could find on these and I can't find any store pages or pictures of it on google.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2017 16:47:06 GMT -5
Don't pull it off. It's not that important. It's a pretty rare kit. More so than my Geil One kit. Nice find. I'm jealous.
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Post by dr4g00n on Jun 23, 2017 16:50:06 GMT -5
I guess we'll never now for sure what IC's these are. They are completely blank. One side of the heatspreader on one was not attached very well so it came off easy.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 23, 2017 17:20:09 GMT -5
They could be 5UTT. UTT stands for Untested. They could go alright.
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Post by Bones on Jun 23, 2017 18:10:12 GMT -5
Similar to the ones I have, the 2x 512MB OCZ golds that's rated for 2-2-2-5 @ 3.2v's. These sticks will go with tight timings and some voltage behind them, you can probrably expect similar results with your set. I'd test them to see how high they go with 3.3v's and go from there using no more voltage than needed for them to run, they'll last longer that way.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2017 18:15:05 GMT -5
I guess we'll never now for sure what IC's these are. They are completely blank. One side of the heatspreader on one was not attached very well so it came off easy. They are UTT. That's why they're not marked. UTT is untested as stated earlier. My Geil One's are UTT. Bones's Golds are UTT also.
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Post by dr4g00n on Jun 23, 2017 18:45:02 GMT -5
Ah okay, that makes sense I guess. They seem to do about 255MHz 2-2-2-5 1T @ 3.5V in 32M. Not the most amazing stuff but it's alright.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2017 19:18:54 GMT -5
3.6-3.7v is the benching spot. You may get those into the 270 range. Keep a fan on them.
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Post by ozz on Jun 24, 2017 6:52:09 GMT -5
Naa I am right there now Shane. Thanks found the fx 8350 pete , was in the gig 990 board,
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 24, 2017 7:54:40 GMT -5
I told ya you had it
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Post by ozz on Jun 24, 2017 8:04:32 GMT -5
I told ya you had it yeah i remember now , we had the 8350 and the 8370 here, and you took the 8370 home and i was gunna play with the 8350 and i think then the team cup or challenger series comps started and thats where it stayed.... in the board lol
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Post by ozz on Jun 25, 2017 7:02:56 GMT -5
I didn't has a board to test them when I got them dirt cheap..now I k ow why lol so far shrimpy with the sempy 150 and the chip has been good thx mate for the send, runs at 3, 4 c at idle in bios so im guessin thats gunna be about 15-20c under load, depending on volts and load of course , i have got 4300 from it but havin trouble remembering the boards stuff, pete can just come here no matter what ive got on and go bang bang bang, its done, his memory for stuff is incredible, he remembers more of what i got here than i do but i do know this it smacked my crosshairv-z boards arse, and it cost me $40 delivered, and i never used it for ages, then pete came over and he said wheres that gig board you bought, i said what board, the 990 do i looked and found it again lol we tried his fx 8350 and 8370 in it and belted the crosshair, pete was here doin it and saw it, i gave me crosshairv - z to pete, this board is a goer for the cheaper gig board option, i didnt know at the time what it was , jesus it was well over 2 yrs ago, so i guess it comes back to it doesnt matter what you buy its the silicon lottery with whatever, so ill keep going and try see what shell do
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 25, 2017 7:17:05 GMT -5
4300 ain't bad.
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Post by ozz on Jun 25, 2017 7:31:01 GMT -5
4300 ain't bad. still tryin scotty, took me all day to work out whats what again, been so long, pisses me off, pete comes here and it done in 2 mins the mans a freak , seriously, no matter what platform i have on he comes here and he just knows, he goes lets look at this, mmm ok nah thats no good , he goes click click click and then bang its up and goin, i shake me head all the time
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 26, 2017 16:48:17 GMT -5
That on chilled water?
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Post by ozz on Jun 26, 2017 19:18:17 GMT -5
yeah pete, just been havin a bit of trouble sortin the bios settings out, its been a long while since ive had the board on
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Post by ozz on Jun 27, 2017 0:31:59 GMT -5
1 phone call from pete lol, but the memory has got me beat, this is with auto mem settings, tried 9.9.9.24 and didnt want to do it, but mem on auto settings it will lol, i know im doing something wrong here , ill keep playin with this one , maybe a little potential with the right settings, 2000 ht link and nb frequency is all i can get from it, maybe a bios issue stoppin it i dunno, its 2 yrs old this bios
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 27, 2017 7:16:55 GMT -5
And it would probably be the latest bios for the board they wont be releasing any more bios'es for an out of date board no manufacturer does.
The chip has got more in it bring your NB frequency down to around 2600MHz and keep your HT link below 2600MHz always below or at NB frequency not above. Then start taking your base clock higher. From memory I know that board doesnt like high NB frequency but clocks the CPU good. The memory I said to try 9-9-9-24 @ 2000 this arvo its probably a bit tight for them. Clock your CPU up with the ram still on Auto when you get to the CPU's limit start to bring the memory in They would probably be Hynix chips with SPD timings of 12-14-14-36 @2800mhz. Try 10-11-11-28 @2000 to start with and bring the timings in from there the first 2 timings are the most important CL and tRCD.
Its all in a methodical order of how you go about clocking them to get the best results.
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Post by ozz on Jun 27, 2017 8:32:49 GMT -5
And it would probably be the latest bios for the board they wont be releasing any more bios'es for an out of date board no manufacturer does. The chip has got more in it bring your NB frequency down to around 2600MHz and keep your HT link below 2600MHz always below or at NB frequency not above. Then start taking your base clock higher. From memory I know that board doesnt like high NB frequency but clocks the CPU good. The memory I said to try 9-9-9-24 @ 2000 this arvo its probably a bit tight for them. Clock your CPU up with the ram still on Auto when you get to the CPU's limit start to bring the memory in They would probably be Hynix chips with SPD timings of 12-14-14-36 @2800mhz. Try 10-11-11-28 @2000 to start with and bring the timings in from there the first 2 timings are the most important CL and tRCD. Its all in a methodical order of how you go about clocking them to get the best results. yeah pete its the methodical order that gets me all in a jizz with things lol, i got the shits with it and went and had a snooze for a while, i looked for this bios on it now, the FDk, i remember you put it on for me when i got the board but i cant bloodywell find it again in the gig list for rev 3.0 or downloads to see when it was produced, the latest i can see for it is the F10e, ahh... i clicked on the rev 3.0 and found it, yes its the latest bios available and its a Beta bios and i dont see this sempy 150 in its cpu support list at all, theres 140, 145 ,180 sempies there but no 150 sempy and they have a different bios listing than the FDk, theyre all the FA bios, but i do know this, to both our disbeleifs, it tore the pants off the crosshair v-z www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-990FXA-UD3-rev-30#support-dl
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