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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 3, 2023 18:57:59 GMT -5
Hey everyone, I've never set up a competition before, so I may have made serious rookie errors.
The idea is for people to have fun with new and/or old hardware if they want, and still be competitive within that RAM type.
So there will be the overall winners, who have the fastest raw scores. But also, if you want to run DDR1 for example, I will rank that separately. This will become more clear after I flesh out post #2 on the results thread.
Any comments & feedback welcome. Thanks for looking.
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Post by Bones on Dec 3, 2023 20:01:43 GMT -5
Just think about what you have in mind.... That alone will help to guide you but do be ready to do a bit of tweaking to your concept after you decide what you want it to be.
You won't be able to please everybody and there is always somebody that will want to complain about the comp setup.
Being fair is one thing, bending over backwards just so "One" can play is another thing.
As for suggestions - Determine first the kind of comp you want it to be, whether it's wide open (NO restrictions), cooling type restricted, Mhz restricted or what ever floats your boat. Many will rule out extreme cooling so everyone has a shot or have a separate category for those guys.
Also think about what hardware to base it on and make sure it's a more common type of stuff instead of something really obscure - That way you'll increase chances you'll have folks to play in the first place.
If you want it to be a particualr hardware type/kind, consider carefully what it would be and what would not be allowed.
Hope some of this helps.
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 3, 2023 20:33:36 GMT -5
Just think about what you have in mind.... That alone will help to guide you but do be ready to do a bit of tweaking to your concept after you decide what you want it to be. You won't be able to please everybody and there is always somebody that will want to complain about the comp setup. Being fair is one thing, bending over backwards just so "One" can play is another thing. As for suggestions - Determine first the kind of comp you want it to be, whether it's wide open (NO restrictions), cooling type restricted, Mhz restricted or what ever floats your boat. Many will rule out extreme cooling so everyone has a shot or have a separate category for those guys. Also think about what hardware to base it on and make sure it's a more common type of stuff instead of something really obscure - That way you'll increase chances you'll have folks to play in the first place. If you want it to be a particualr hardware type/kind, consider carefully what it would be and what would not be allowed. Hope some of this helps. Thanks, Rodney. This is all good advice.  I have made a decision (right or wrong) on many of these factors - details in this thread: warp9-systems.proboards.com/thread/2000/december-2023-competition-spi-32mWhatever doesn't work out, I will learn from it and improve any future comps I start. Could see people maybe being upset about the choice of benchmark, and the fact that it's 2D. Which is completely understandable. But, I wanted a bench I'm somewhat familiar with to start out with - I don't do much 3D. I also want as many people to sub the hardware they have/like, while also being competitive at the top end. Some people want globals, the best hardware currently available, and to beat all other hardware. Others enjoy competing within hardware. Still others enjoy both. I have tried to satisfy all three groups with this comp. Starting on the 5th will probably be too soon to get much feedback, prior to comp start. Maybe for that reason, I should push it back a bit - will consider this over the next day. |
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Post by Bones on Dec 3, 2023 22:12:49 GMT -5
Just think about what you have in mind.... That alone will help to guide you but do be ready to do a bit of tweaking to your concept after you decide what you want it to be. You won't be able to please everybody and there is always somebody that will want to complain about the comp setup. Being fair is one thing, bending over backwards just so "One" can play is another thing. As for suggestions - Determine first the kind of comp you want it to be, whether it's wide open (NO restrictions), cooling type restricted, Mhz restricted or what ever floats your boat. Many will rule out extreme cooling so everyone has a shot or have a separate category for those guys. Also think about what hardware to base it on and make sure it's a more common type of stuff instead of something really obscure - That way you'll increase chances you'll have folks to play in the first place. If you want it to be a particualr hardware type/kind, consider carefully what it would be and what would not be allowed. Hope some of this helps. Thanks, Rodney. This is all good advice. I have made a decision (right or wrong) on many of these factors - details in this thread: warp9-systems.proboards.com/thread/2000/december-2023-competition-spi-32mWhatever doesn't work out, I will learn from it and improve any future comps I start. Could see people maybe being upset about the choice of benchmark, and the fact that it's 2D. Which is completely understandable. But, I wanted a bench I'm somewhat familiar with to start out with - I don't do much 3D. I also want as many people to sub the hardware they have/like, while also being competitive at the top end. Some people want globals, the best hardware currently available, and to beat all other hardware. Others enjoy competing within hardware. Still others enjoy both. I have tried to satisfy all three groups with this comp. Starting on the 5th will probably be too soon to get much feedback, prior to comp start. Maybe for that reason, I should push it back a bit - will consider this over the next day. Looks good - Simple and right to the point, this should get some subs no doubt. I wasn't able to get in on the last one due to all the chaos around here and there will be more to come this month too, but I'm hoping I can at least do something. And if not that's how it goes. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 4, 2023 3:17:39 GMT -5
Got cooling restrictions?
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 4, 2023 3:48:39 GMT -5
Got cooling restrictions? Nope! Open to any cooling. Bones made a good suggestion, of separating cooling by type. Depending on how this goes, I might implement that in a later comp. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 4, 2023 10:34:17 GMT -5
Backround is awesome. |
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 4, 2023 12:18:32 GMT -5
Backround is awesome. Thank you. I only did the lettering - the Enterprise and colorful background were someone else. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 4, 2023 14:15:21 GMT -5
Got cooling restrictions? Nope! Open to any cooling. Bones made a good suggestion, of separating cooling by type. Depending on how this goes, I might implement that in a later comp. No problem, just making sure. Set em up the way you'd like! Cooling restrictions requires Rig Pics!! I'll shoot at DDR4 mainly. Not sure I'm going to be swapping platforms with the current time restraints in front of me. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 4, 2023 20:09:15 GMT -5
Looks Good I will play. |
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Post by spit051261 on Dec 4, 2023 21:25:31 GMT -5
Looks good |
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Post by twopic on Dec 4, 2023 23:18:54 GMT -5
This sounds fun. Planning a dry ice meet up with a friend in LA with a 4670k  |
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Post by Bones on Dec 5, 2023 11:09:27 GMT -5
This sounds fun. Planning a dry ice meet up with a friend in LA with a 4670k Excellent chance to sharpen your PI skills. Go for it. |
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 5, 2023 14:45:37 GMT -5
Just checked out the thread, looks like it could be a lot of fun and more of a "relaxed" competition. I can get behind that. I might pop a couple subs off. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Dec 5, 2023 15:13:26 GMT -5
My 0.02. Running SPI32M from socket a and sdram to raptor lake and ddr5 8600+. Ambient to LN2. This is not a comp. This is noise to show that forum is still alive  |
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 5, 2023 16:12:36 GMT -5
My 0.02. Running SPI32M from socket a and sdram to raptor lake and ddr5 8600+. Ambient to LN2. This is not a comp. This is noise to show that forum is still alive Fair point. I don't expect DDR1 to compete at all with DDR5, which is why they'll both be ranked separately - but, your point still stands. My ideal outcome: we will have more attention on the forum from all the "noise", and I will have a very small amount of experience. Then, future competitions I start will be more specific. I.e., benches people don't run as much, more niche hardware, and separating ambient & sub-ambient. I will also start a discussion thread long before comp start, to field ideas, so we can have something more unique. It won't always be like this one. Things will improve moving forward. I appreciate your input. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Dec 5, 2023 16:37:14 GMT -5
I do not have any problem with you or your idea.
My main issue is that the benching Team is shrinking, points fall, benchers get less and less, all recruits except Paul were a disaster.
I do not even bother looking at things daily, as I did in the past.
Soŕry mate, I do not feel like participating.
I am joining the big polar bear in hibernation.
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Post by twopic on Dec 5, 2023 22:27:46 GMT -5
This sounds fun. Planning a dry ice meet up with a friend in LA with a 4670k Excellent chance to sharpen your PI skills. Go for it. waza has been hard |
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 6, 2023 2:36:04 GMT -5
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 11, 2023 15:12:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna get slaughtered by someone's 2500K, but got me a DDR3 sub posted. I updated it to a faster time with a cpu having a better multiplier. Mixed matched mems to obtain trip channel. Air cooling is my current restriction besides the memory contrller throwing a fit about my ram. lol. BUT I'm IN!!!
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 11, 2023 16:45:14 GMT -5
I'm gonna get slaughtered by someone's 2500K, but got me a DDR3 sub posted. I updated it to a faster time with a cpu having a better multiplier. Mixed matched mems to obtain trip channel. Air cooling is my current restriction besides the memory contrller throwing a fit about my ram. lol. BUT I'm IN!!! Updated  |
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Post by twopic on Dec 12, 2023 3:23:02 GMT -5
I'm gonna get slaughtered by someone's 2500K, but got me a DDR3 sub posted. I updated it to a faster time with a cpu having a better multiplier. Mixed matched mems to obtain trip channel. Air cooling is my current restriction besides the memory contrller throwing a fit about my ram. lol. BUT I'm IN!!! You got some competition! I'm going to be taking my 4670k on dry ice along side my trident Z d-die kit! |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 12, 2023 3:32:37 GMT -5
I'm gonna get slaughtered by someone's 2500K, but got me a DDR3 sub posted. I updated it to a faster time with a cpu having a better multiplier. Mixed matched mems to obtain trip channel. Air cooling is my current restriction besides the memory contrller throwing a fit about my ram. lol. BUT I'm IN!!! You got some competition! I'm going to be taking my 4670k on dry ice along side my trident Z d-die kit! You're Gonna SLAUGHTER me!!! DDR3 sure is a broad spectrum of horse power. lol. I wonder if these stages should've been socket oriented. lol. I'd expect to see 4.8ghz-5ghz and around 6 minutes... on air XD Knock em dead!! |
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 12, 2023 3:41:21 GMT -5
Probabaly should have been socket limited, and separated to ambient/sub-ambient too. Oh well, learning for next time. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 12, 2023 12:22:25 GMT -5
Probabaly should have been socket limited, and separated to ambient/sub-ambient too. Oh well, learning for next time. This is why I keep them real simple like. AND you learn not to take it to heart. Some comps are popular a bunch submit and others not so much. Just how it works out. Itell be fine. I'll try and get ddr4 and 5 in also. I no longer hold ddr 1 and 2 hardware. |
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 12, 2023 15:26:24 GMT -5
Probabaly should have been socket limited, and separated to ambient/sub-ambient too. Oh well, learning for next time. This is why I keep them real simple like. AND you learn not to take it to heart. Some comps are popular a bunch submit and others not so much. Just how it works out. Itell be fine. I'll try and get ddr4 and 5 in also. I no longer hold ddr 1 and 2 hardware. Thanks, Jon. Go go go! I'll probably run your SLI-DR. Though, may not sub anything till after CC. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 12, 2023 15:34:44 GMT -5
This is why I keep them real simple like. AND you learn not to take it to heart. Some comps are popular a bunch submit and others not so much. Just how it works out. Itell be fine. I'll try and get ddr4 and 5 in also. I no longer hold ddr 1 and 2 hardware. Thanks, Jon. Go go go! I'll probably run your SLI-DR. Though, may not sub anything till after CC. That's the best s939 board I ever had. That memory will do Cas2 all day. Outstanding set of memory. All you need is a good binned chip and you're all set! |
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Post by Bones on Dec 12, 2023 21:27:58 GMT -5
If we have a few warmer days coming up I may be able to get something setup - Just too cold ATM to go out and do a setup.
Haven't decided what to run yet but if I'm able to get something going I guess that's when I'll figure it out.
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Post by twopic on Dec 13, 2023 0:28:52 GMT -5
You got some competition! I'm going to be taking my 4670k on dry ice along side my trident Z d-die kit! You're Gonna SLAUGHTER me!!! DDR3 sure is a broad spectrum of horse power. lol. I wonder if these stages should've been socket oriented. lol. I'd expect to see 4.8ghz-5ghz and around 6 minutes... on air XD Knock em dead!! First fullpot sandy might be in your hands  |
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Post by twopic on Dec 13, 2023 0:31:03 GMT -5
Thanks, Jon. Go go go! I'll probably run your SLI-DR. Though, may not sub anything till after CC. That's the best s939 board I ever had. That memory will do Cas2 all day. Outstanding set of memory. All you need is a good binned chip and you're all set! from what i've heard DFI socket 939 boards are basically unicorns so it's going to be hard for me to get one |
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