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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 11, 2023 23:07:35 GMT -5
Got an fx 4130 + 970 extreme3 combo for 15$ untested, managed to make it work again (dirty ram slots and bad cmos jumper) and now im just playing around with it
Did the obligatory boot into windows at 5ghz, this cpu is trash and needs a ton of volt to run 5ghz
Now im trying to get these transcend pscs to 3000 and so far ive managed to windows boot 2640 and half post at 2800 (bios splash screen appears but freezes at 0d when attempting to enter bios)
Anyone got psc settings i can use as reference?
Currently settings are
Fsb 234
Pcie freq 100
Spread spectrum auto (doesnt seem to make a diff)
multi 20
Vcore 1.5v
Cpu nb 1.5v
Ht bus auto
Ht bus width 16
Dram multi is maxed out (12)
Vdimm 1.75v
Nb volt 1.3v
Ht volt 1.3v
Cpu and pcie vdda auto
Board has not been crossflashed yet as i dont think ill need 2.05v vdimm but ill give it a shot later
This is pretty much the only interesting thing i am doing atm cause i am still trying to make money (got an actual pc to sell now but it wont sell), once i have more money ill problably try building some sort of phase change cooler if buying an ac unit and making a cpu block is not good enough but itll be quite awhile
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 12, 2023 14:01:38 GMT -5
AMD's memory controllers are weak sauce. The board is AsRock's bottom end. Crossflashing won't do anything positive, but no doubt you'll have to try any ways.
5ghz is decent on air cooling though, so you got that going for ya.
CPU/NB is the memory controller, and 1.5v is way high voltage. This should be under chilling, then maybe more memory clocks.
NB core is for chipset OC.
HT should be good for 3ghz without needing more than 1.3v HT-v.
Spread spectrum disabled will set the FSB steady to 200mhz. With it enabled, the FSB will dip in accordance to EPA regulations the board should default to. In example, seeing dips below 200mhz under loads.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 12, 2023 17:14:19 GMT -5
AMD's memory controllers are weak sauce. The board is AsRock's bottom end. Crossflashing won't do anything positive, but no doubt you'll have to try any ways. 5ghz is decent on air cooling though, so you got that going for ya. CPU/NB is the memory controller, and 1.5v is way high voltage. This should be under chilling, then maybe more memory clocks. NB core is for chipset OC. HT should be good for 3ghz without needing more than 1.3v HT-v. Spread spectrum disabled will set the FSB steady to 200mhz. With it enabled, the FSB will dip in accordance to EPA regulations the board should default to. In example, seeing dips below 200mhz under loads. Chip is not a good bin Itll boot 5g to windows at 1.6v but it definitely isnt stable, am in not really willing to run 1.7v till i can get the thing properly cooled Also i have no reference as to nb freq volt scaling, at 2700 itll error no matter what at 1.4v and 1.55v cpu nb volt, need to adjust another volt or no? Im willing to push upto around 1.7v as long as temps are fine Boards also kinda trash, just keeps whining about some boot failiure when trying to go above 2640 even though i have had it half post up to 3000 and 2800 consistently half posts, just shit bios keeps whining for no reason and not setting the overclock, so maybe if i flash an m5a97 or some other board with a less bullshit bios i can get around that Closest ive got 2800 to fully post and enter bios would be when nb volt was set to 1.5v, id try cranking it to 1.7v but this retarded bios keeps whining about boot failiure and not applying my overclock and defaulting Vdda volts dont do anything, nb volt (not cpu nb) seems like it might help but not sure to what extent and not sure what other things it might help (like fsb clocking) Also if i try 263fsb instead of 234fsb for 2800 it just doesnt work and gets stuck at 80 even though i can boot the thing at 270fsb without the ram oc Think i might have to just ditch this thing and buy another board, and there is an untested m5a97 at 33$ with an included cpu which i do not know what it is that im gonna buy later once i resell this thing, mainly because the seller said that if its not working then i can return it |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 13, 2023 0:50:12 GMT -5
Yep, build a water loop.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 13, 2023 7:02:28 GMT -5
ill do one better and just buy some ac unit for subzero 100$ aint gonna be much in a few months time when the computers start selling, though i do already have most of my loop, just need a bigger rad (theres a bunch <30$) and a block (probs some cheap china copper block for 20$) ill make a thread for subzero cooling shenanigans later when i got some money to play with, for now i still have no money so this is literally the only midly interesting thing i got now ill go and sell this board off alongside my dud fx 4100 and the stock cooler that was included with the board (ill mod with a better fan), maybe i can fetch 30-40$ so not too bad for only spending 15$ on the thing Btw about that dud of a 4100, whenever i try to boot 5ghz it just refuses to boot and throws bullshit ram errors and gpu errors judging by postcode, so i wonder why 4.95g will boot but not 5g and up? Even if i set voltage to 1.75v, even if i use a mix of fsb and multi, still flat out refuses to boot ill keep this 4130 cause its not a complete dud, might wanna grab a cheap 6300 later if i end up having to resell this 4130, cores are not very well binned but i wonder if the imc is any good by binning standards, ive managed to get it to half post at 3000 when i nuked all the subtimings and probs gonna retry tonigt if the board isnt gonna be a complete retard and throw bullshit oc fail errors and default, ive booted 2640 to windows, sticks dont seem to be the limiting factor since ive nuked the subtimings and it can half post at 3000 leaving the board and the imc to be the only other variables, and i have tested the nb freq to windows boot at 2700 (unstable) whereas trying to get 2700 ddr3 working is still gonna half post and get stuck on the splash screen, basically just leaves the board to be the limiting factor which it problably is with the lackluster adjustments available atleast for this kind of oc Im curious if being able to windows boot at 2640 (problably 3000 when i get a better board, need to test nb freq 3000 first) on 2 sticks all at ambient temps is any good for an fx imc or is it just another average or below average fx imc? i dont wanna accidentally throw away a golden sample |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 13, 2023 19:28:36 GMT -5
Doubtful you have a golden sample of a chip. 6300 or 8300 cpu will clock better for the v-core, keep your eye on steppings too.
FX processors will run fill LN2 pot, so cooling is your only limiting factor here.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 13, 2023 20:35:58 GMT -5
Only going to get 3000 mhz out of PSC in your dreams they would have to be golden bin to get anywhere near that.
One other thing PSC will roll over long before 2v 1.8v would be my max with PSC.
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Post by Bones on Jul 13, 2023 20:40:48 GMT -5
ill do one better and just buy some ac unit for subzero 100$ aint gonna be much in a few months time when the computers start selling, though i do already have most of my loop, just need a bigger rad (theres a bunch <30$) and a block (probs some cheap china copper block for 20$) ill make a thread for subzero cooling shenanigans later when i got some money to play with, for now i still have no money so this is literally the only midly interesting thing i got now ill go and sell this board off alongside my dud fx 4100 and the stock cooler that was included with the board (ill mod with a better fan), maybe i can fetch 30-40$ so not too bad for only spending 15$ on the thing Btw about that dud of a 4100, whenever i try to boot 5ghz it just refuses to boot and throws bullshit ram errors and gpu errors judging by postcode, so i wonder why 4.95g will boot but not 5g and up? Even if i set voltage to 1.75v, even if i use a mix of fsb and multi, still flat out refuses to boot ill keep this 4130 cause its not a complete dud, might wanna grab a cheap 6300 later if i end up having to resell this 4130, cores are not very well binned but i wonder if the imc is any good by binning standards, ive managed to get it to half post at 3000 when i nuked all the subtimings and probs gonna retry tonigt if the board isnt gonna be a complete retard and throw bullshit oc fail errors and default, ive booted 2640 to windows, sticks dont seem to be the limiting factor since ive nuked the subtimings and it can half post at 3000 leaving the board and the imc to be the only other variables, and i have tested the nb freq to windows boot at 2700 (unstable) whereas trying to get 2700 ddr3 working is still gonna half post and get stuck on the splash screen, basically just leaves the board to be the limiting factor which it problably is with the lackluster adjustments available atleast for this kind of oc Im curious if being able to windows boot at 2640 (problably 3000 when i get a better board, need to test nb freq 3000 first) on 2 sticks all at ambient temps is any good for an fx imc or is it just another average or below average fx imc? i dont wanna accidentally throw away a golden sample Not likely a Zambezi (FX-4130) will hit 3000 on the CPU-NB without some help at least. While it's possible don't expect it and the board you use will play a part in that too. ASRock didn't make the best AM3+ boards and that's why they hold basically NO records compared to an Asus or Gigabyte board ran with an FX chip. Booting the CPU-NB at 2640 ambient is about average so it's not a junk chip at least. You'll have to go chilled or sub-zero to make it go further reliably - That being the key term about it. Beware of volting up the CPU-NB too far on ambient, 1.5v's is really high voltage for it unless it's frozen (Sub-zero) and that will make the chip itself run hotter too. |
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 13, 2023 22:46:23 GMT -5
Only going to get 3000 mhz out of PSC in your dreams they would have to be golden bin to get anywhere near that. One other thing PSC will roll over long before 2v 1.8v would be my max with PSC. I did get it to half post at 3000 when the board wasnt being retarded but subtimings nuked (everything but tcwl loosened to the max) at 1.8v iirc currently i have managed to get 2700 in windows with the help of the asrock tuning utility thingy so ill problably just post a quick hwbot sub cause the highest freq anyones subbed for this board is a pitiful 2133 |
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 13, 2023 22:53:20 GMT -5
ill do one better and just buy some ac unit for subzero 100$ aint gonna be much in a few months time when the computers start selling, though i do already have most of my loop, just need a bigger rad (theres a bunch <30$) and a block (probs some cheap china copper block for 20$) ill make a thread for subzero cooling shenanigans later when i got some money to play with, for now i still have no money so this is literally the only midly interesting thing i got now ill go and sell this board off alongside my dud fx 4100 and the stock cooler that was included with the board (ill mod with a better fan), maybe i can fetch 30-40$ so not too bad for only spending 15$ on the thing Btw about that dud of a 4100, whenever i try to boot 5ghz it just refuses to boot and throws bullshit ram errors and gpu errors judging by postcode, so i wonder why 4.95g will boot but not 5g and up? Even if i set voltage to 1.75v, even if i use a mix of fsb and multi, still flat out refuses to boot ill keep this 4130 cause its not a complete dud, might wanna grab a cheap 6300 later if i end up having to resell this 4130, cores are not very well binned but i wonder if the imc is any good by binning standards, ive managed to get it to half post at 3000 when i nuked all the subtimings and probs gonna retry tonigt if the board isnt gonna be a complete retard and throw bullshit oc fail errors and default, ive booted 2640 to windows, sticks dont seem to be the limiting factor since ive nuked the subtimings and it can half post at 3000 leaving the board and the imc to be the only other variables, and i have tested the nb freq to windows boot at 2700 (unstable) whereas trying to get 2700 ddr3 working is still gonna half post and get stuck on the splash screen, basically just leaves the board to be the limiting factor which it problably is with the lackluster adjustments available atleast for this kind of oc Im curious if being able to windows boot at 2640 (problably 3000 when i get a better board, need to test nb freq 3000 first) on 2 sticks all at ambient temps is any good for an fx imc or is it just another average or below average fx imc? i dont wanna accidentally throw away a golden sample Not likely a Zambezi (FX-4130) will hit 3000 on the CPU-NB without some help at least. While it's possible don't expect it and the board you use will play a part in that too. ASRock didn't make the best AM3+ boards and that's why they hold basically NO records compared to an Asus or Gigabyte board ran with an FX chip. Booting the CPU-NB at 2640 ambient is about average so it's not a junk chip at least. You'll have to go chilled or sub-zero to make it go further reliably - That being the key term about it. Beware of volting up the CPU-NB too far on ambient, 1.5v's is really high voltage for it unless it's frozen (Sub-zero) and that will make the chip itself run hotter too. As long as it doesnt get too hot i kinda just dont care what kinda volts im running, i mean these are cheap chips anyways Board is definitely the limiter here, ram can clearly go quite abit past 2640 but board is crap and will not fully post over 2640 and crashes over 2700 in windows Plan is to sell this thing with my dud 4100 and a modded amd stock cooler for 30-40$ and buy an untested m5a97 with unknown cpu for 33$ cause i can return if faulty and it really doesnt work im definitely gonna sell this thing but ill just take a nap first cause i have not slept since yesterday due to fucked sleep schedule, and i wanna do some testing with diff bioses on this thingy, doubt theyll do anything to improve oc but why not |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 14, 2023 0:32:25 GMT -5
Bro. Same shit different platform....
Again, the cooling is your limitation.
The cpu won't do 3000mhz memory clocks.
NB clocks 2.2ghz is plenty.
HT should run 2.6ghz to 3ghz 1.20- 1.30v
Cpu/nb is memory controller not to get confused with nb (chipset)
1.5v for either is crazy talk.
This 1.5v even for HT at 4000mhz is over-kill.
Question..
Can you get dry ice?
Fuck the memory and nb/ht clocks.
CPU IPC is so low, cpu frequency should be first goal.
Can you get dry ice? Local grocery store or try an ice cream shop? 🍦 🧊 ¿¿
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 14, 2023 8:09:56 GMT -5
Bro. Same shit different platform.... Again, the cooling is your limitation. The cpu won't do 3000mhz memory clocks. NB clocks 2.2ghz is plenty. HT should run 2.6ghz to 3ghz 1.20- 1.30v Cpu/nb is memory controller not to get confused with nb (chipset) 1.5v for either is crazy talk. This 1.5v even for HT at 4000mhz is over-kill. Question.. Can you get dry ice? Fuck the memory and nb/ht clocks. CPU IPC is so low, cpu frequency should be first goal. Can you get dry ice? Local grocery store or try an ice cream shop? 🍦 🧊 ¿¿ I can buy online, not sure about buying dice in shops though But main issue with dice is that i dont have a pot |
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Post by Bones on Jul 14, 2023 10:54:58 GMT -5
Bro. Same shit different platform.... Again, the cooling is your limitation. The cpu won't do 3000mhz memory clocks. NB clocks 2.2ghz is plenty. HT should run 2.6ghz to 3ghz 1.20- 1.30v Cpu/nb is memory controller not to get confused with nb (chipset) 1.5v for either is crazy talk. This 1.5v even for HT at 4000mhz is over-kill. Question.. Can you get dry ice? Fuck the memory and nb/ht clocks. CPU IPC is so low, cpu frequency should be first goal. Can you get dry ice? Local grocery store or try an ice cream shop? 🍦 🧊 ¿¿ I can buy online, not sure about buying dice in shops though But main issue with dice is that i dont have a pot If memory serves you're in Indonesia.... Correct? If so that means things aren't as readily available as other places so you have to deal with the cards you've got. You can make your own pot, I've made a couple along the way that got the job done until I could get a proper pot. Essentially all you need is a base of suitable material (Preferably copper) but aluminum works too, it just won't be as efficient or hold temps down as well. You'd also need a tube which can be made of things like a piece of thinwall pipe for example, to whatever height you want it to be. You'd have to create your own mounting system too, usually done with pieces of all-thread rod and some nuts and washers with a plate to hold it down once you get the pot mounted. The plate would also need a hole in the middle of it so you can dump acetone & DICE in or pour in Ln2. That's the basics of it's design, I'm sure you can figure it all out from there. |
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 14, 2023 12:20:17 GMT -5
I can buy online, not sure about buying dice in shops though But main issue with dice is that i dont have a pot If memory serves you're in Indonesia.... Correct? If so that means things aren't as readily available as other places so you have to deal with the cards you've got. You can make your own pot, I've made a couple along the way that got the job done until I could get a proper pot. Essentially all you need is a base of suitable material (Preferably copper) but aluminum works too, it just won't be as efficient or hold temps down as well. You'd also need a tube which can be made of things like a piece of thinwall pipe for example, to whatever height you want it to be. You'd have to create your own mounting system too, usually done with pieces of all-thread rod and some nuts and washers with a plate to hold it down once you get the pot mounted. The plate would also need a hole in the middle of it so you can dump acetone & DICE in or pour in Ln2. That's the basics of it's design, I'm sure you can figure it all out from there. How does acetone compare to 99% isopropyl? I have a decent bit of isopropyl laying around already, i assume i just crush the dice and pour into acetone/ipa for poor mans liquid nitrogen How much would it cost to build one though? Round 200$ should be doable but above that might be a tad annoying or outright out of reach (i mean id rather spend 1000$ on a car and thatll take awhile) As for the base i assume id just solder some thinwall pipe to some sort of thick copper base? Yes indonesia Photos of an actual diy pot would be very helpful as a reference |
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Post by austin86 on Jul 14, 2023 12:38:12 GMT -5
How does acetone compare to 99% isopropyl? I have a decent bit of isopropyl laying around already, i assume i just crush the dice and pour into acetone/ipa for poor mans liquid nitrogen How much would it cost to build one though? Round 200$ should be doable but above that might be a tad annoying or outright out of reach (i mean id rather spend 1000$ on a car and thatll take awhile) As for the base i assume id just solder some thinwall pipe to some sort of thick copper base? I never used isopropyl, just acetone. Yes you crush it up and mix it. At 200$ I'd order something online... some scrap mettle found from the side of the road would work if you have the tools.
Yes a thicker base is needed.
You could cut out the middle man and fill a tub with dice and a rad. AKA chilled water. But that is only good for around -40c, anything cooler and glycol will freeze.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 14, 2023 15:22:22 GMT -5
Most brake cleaners are made from acetone fyi
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 14, 2023 18:43:54 GMT -5
If memory serves you're in Indonesia.... Correct? If so that means things aren't as readily available as other places so you have to deal with the cards you've got. You can make your own pot, I've made a couple along the way that got the job done until I could get a proper pot. Essentially all you need is a base of suitable material (Preferably copper) but aluminum works too, it just won't be as efficient or hold temps down as well. You'd also need a tube which can be made of things like a piece of thinwall pipe for example, to whatever height you want it to be. You'd have to create your own mounting system too, usually done with pieces of all-thread rod and some nuts and washers with a plate to hold it down once you get the pot mounted. The plate would also need a hole in the middle of it so you can dump acetone & DICE in or pour in Ln2. That's the basics of it's design, I'm sure you can figure it all out from there. How does acetone compare to 99% isopropyl? I have a decent bit of isopropyl laying around already, i assume i just crush the dice and pour into acetone/ipa for poor mans liquid nitrogen How much would it cost to build one though? Round 200$ should be doable but above that might be a tad annoying or outright out of reach (i mean id rather spend 1000$ on a car and thatll take awhile) As for the base i assume id just solder some thinwall pipe to some sort of thick copper base? Yes indonesia Photos of an actual diy pot would be very helpful as a reference Check out this thread for pictures and some explanations. warp9-systems.proboards.com/thread/692/pot |
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 14, 2023 20:52:24 GMT -5
1.5V is not that big of a deal considering Athlon XPs used that, I have a 8350 at 5.0 using that, and ram at 2400
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Post by Bones on Jul 14, 2023 22:57:46 GMT -5
Actually it is considering all it takes to get 2400 CPU-NB speed is 1.2v's to the CPU-NB, sometimes not even that much depending on the system.
Anything in excess of that voltage is just making it all run hotter than it should.
FX chips are a completely different thing from Athlon XP chips and we're talking about the system's CPU-NB voltage, not CPU voltage itself.
BTW 1.5v's for an XP is a bit of an undervolt in most cases but there were a few low voltage variants that could run at stock speed with that or even less - I have a couple that are such and can do it all day long.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 15, 2023 4:04:51 GMT -5
How does acetone compare to 99% isopropyl? I have a decent bit of isopropyl laying around already, i assume i just crush the dice and pour into acetone/ipa for poor mans liquid nitrogen How much would it cost to build one though? Round 200$ should be doable but above that might be a tad annoying or outright out of reach (i mean id rather spend 1000$ on a car and thatll take awhile) As for the base i assume id just solder some thinwall pipe to some sort of thick copper base? Yes indonesia Photos of an actual diy pot would be very helpful as a reference Check out this thread for pictures and some explanations. warp9-systems.proboards.com/thread/692/potWait i have to buy a massive metal slug? Or is there a cheaper alternative? Since i dont exactly have the means to drill through metal let alone a metal slug |
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 15, 2023 4:07:31 GMT -5
Actually it is considering all it takes to get 2400 CPU-NB speed is 1.2v's to the CPU-NB, sometimes not even that much depending on the system. Anything in excess of that voltage is just making it all run hotter than it should. FX chips are a completely different thing from Athlon XP chips and we're talking about the system's CPU-NB voltage, not CPU voltage itself. BTW 1.5v's for an XP is a bit of an undervolt in most cases but there were a few low voltage variants that could run at stock speed with that or even less - I have a couple that are such and can do it all day long. huh i guess i am running abit too much cpu nb, but i wonder why 2700 wont stabilize at 1.4v nor 1.55v when i test with not oced to the moon ram at its stock 1333, and yes running wayyyy too much does seem to cause it to not post (>1.6v) also my humor is broken and for some reason i think the last 6 words of the last sentance sounds funny out of context |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 15, 2023 9:53:19 GMT -5
Wait i have to buy a massive metal slug? Or is there a cheaper alternative? Since i dont exactly have the means to drill through metal let alone a metal slug You don't have to do anything at all. I simply filled the request of pictures and pointers. You're simply at the same road block as before. Try 1.7v instead maybe..... but suggest you chill. Again, you don't have to, just throw the voltage at it, maybe you'll get lucky! |
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Post by zila1 on Jul 15, 2023 10:03:16 GMT -5
Be very careful with AsRock boards. Even their so-called top of the line AM3+ boards were trash. They are notorious for blowing up and taking the processor and sometimes ram with them. Ask me how I know. Just thought I'd throw that out there for anyone wanting to buy one and putting a good chip on it. You will lose the chip. Edit: my 990FX Extreme 9 exploded so loudly that it sounded like a .357 Magnum had gone off in the room. I literally got up and ran out of the room. I thought someone had taken a shot at me. ROFLMAO. Lost my very best FX8350 chip on that board.
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Post by Bones on Jul 15, 2023 10:13:54 GMT -5
huh i guess i am running abit too much cpu nb, but i wonder why 2700 wont stabilize at 1.4v nor 1.55v when i test with not oced to the moon ram at its stock 1333, and yes running wayyyy too much does seem to cause it to not post (>1.6v) also my humor is broken and for some reason i think the last 6 words of the last sentance sounds funny out of context It's probrably NOT going to stabilize at that speed regardless of voltage used. I said earlier if you want to go higher than it was doing before, better or even extreme cooling is required. You don't have that, you won't get the speed - End of story. Was also pointed out CPU-NB speed IS NOT the same thing as RAM speed itself but it does influence RAM performance. What you have your RAM set to run at will not determine what CPU-NB speed it will boot with since that function works on it's own. ATM you're trying to make it run at a CPU-NB speed it's simply not capable of doing with your present cooling, it's as simple as that. Back off the CPU-NB speed, keep it at or below 2640 and it should boot regardless of what RAM speed (RAM Divider) you try to use, provided you don't push that too far as well. 1600 is the sweet spot for RAM with an FX setup, it's possible to higher but there is no guarantee of stability past 1600 period. And yes, I saw where Zila hit the nail on the head - ASRock didn't make the best boards for OC'ing anyway so if you're not running the best, don't go expecting the best from it because you won't get it. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 15, 2023 12:00:24 GMT -5
Be very careful with AsRock boards. Even their so-called top of the line AM3+ boards were trash. They are notorious for blowing up and taking the processor and sometimes ram with them. Ask me how I know. Just thought I'd throw that out there for anyone wanting to buy one and putting a good chip on it. You will lose the chip. Edit: my 990FX Extreme 9 exploded so loudly that it sounded like a .357 Magnum had gone off in the room. I literally got up and ran out of the room. I thought someone had taken a shot at me. ROFLMAO. Lost my very best FX8350 chip on that board. To get a bang, I don't think his board is capable of 2.0v and up. But for some fireworks, I'd definitely try and see if it's good for at least 1.9v cpu, 1.6v cpu/nb should fry the memory controller quick, but not sure if we'll get a bang from it. Though that would make this thread a little more intriguing.... pull the heat sinks off first. Of course a crossflash to maybe a Biostar, should help bring things to a halt quick. Just sayin. Lol |
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 23, 2023 7:38:37 GMT -5
Be very careful with AsRock boards. Even their so-called top of the line AM3+ boards were trash. They are notorious for blowing up and taking the processor and sometimes ram with them. Ask me how I know. Just thought I'd throw that out there for anyone wanting to buy one and putting a good chip on it. You will lose the chip. Edit: my 990FX Extreme 9 exploded so loudly that it sounded like a .357 Magnum had gone off in the room. I literally got up and ran out of the room. I thought someone had taken a shot at me. ROFLMAO. Lost my very best FX8350 chip on that board. 970 Extreme 4 handled the X2 555BE unlocked to 965BE/B55. Here watch these: This other video was disproven by the first video (they used an explosive charge under the cpu hence the hole in the motherboard, so it's fake) Now I will say that with my MSI K7N2 Delta L and Athlon XP 3200 at the time with just a heatsink and no fan the rig shut off twice after the heatsink was thermalsoaked, so thermal protection was there. |
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Post by austin86 on Jul 24, 2023 8:33:36 GMT -5
That sure was a explosive review
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 24, 2023 18:48:04 GMT -5
That sure was a explosive review So you know THG was hit with bribery back then so their rep was tainted and the sizzling was excessive thermalpaste, plus they used a very early skt a mobo. 2nd vid If you noticed the fan wasn't running and also would have been quickly thermalsoaked at even 2.5GHz. There was a hole in table and motherboard as a joke for a charge. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 25, 2023 0:52:54 GMT -5
Oh I've fried a socket A chip. Was my first system actually. Some Gateway rig. Pulled the heat sink off, and something compelled me to turn on the PC. Smoke, glowing hot core in a matter of 3 seconds. HAHA. Then I bought my first OC gaming rig and started overclocking. But with a heat sink installed!!!  But always try to take advice and put it to use. Back story on our random tech boy here.... He has the passion. Loves trying big voltage and crossflashing. reaches some respectable clock frequencies sometimes actually. But generally not in a useable sense, I think he just goes for the frequency brag rights. Which is cool in my book. But there's another thread similar many pages long. He does it his way and has very little to work with. Has been offered hardware and advice, refuses both 99.9% of the time. Thus you see my back handed replies. He'll get there someday. Young, this lad is 15 years old. I like pictures and screen shots though. I try to get that at least from him haha!  |
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 28, 2023 20:15:18 GMT -5
Oh I've fried a socket A chip. Was my first system actually. Some Gateway rig. Pulled the heat sink off, and something compelled me to turn on the PC. Smoke, glowing hot core in a matter of 3 seconds. HAHA. Then I bought my first OC gaming rig and started overclocking. But with a heat sink installed!!! But always try to take advice and put it to use. Back story on our random tech boy here.... He has the passion. Loves trying big voltage and crossflashing. reaches some respectable clock frequencies sometimes actually. But generally not in a useable sense, I think he just goes for the frequency brag rights. Which is cool in my book. But there's another thread similar many pages long. He does it his way and has very little to work with. Has been offered hardware and advice, refuses both 99.9% of the time. Thus you see my back handed replies. He'll get there someday. Young, this lad is 15 years old. I like pictures and screen shots though. I try to get that at least from him haha! I still have the lp ub board, just need to restore a stock bios once i pull it out of storage, start to dable in Watercooling, custom loop that is. |
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