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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 22, 2022 17:58:21 GMT -5
Welcome to my madness. For anyone who doesn't know me, or what my goals are....I got a little bit of a squirrel in my pants in 2019 or so, and I had made my decision that I no longer liked where current technology is going. I really dislike modern pay by the mile DLC gaming. I really dislike "renting" anything that I actually have my hands on really. So, I decided to start a project. I had absolutely NO clue that it was going to take this long, nor did I think it would take this much effort really. But here I am! What was my project you might ask? Well....I decided I wanted to build one rig for EVERY generation from Windows 95 and up. I decided to take on this project not only for myself, but because I have a 7 year old (time of writing) kid too and he's getting into PC gaming too slowly. I wanted to be able to show him where and how his favorite games came from. I wanted him to have similar experiences to what I had growing up. Because honestly, you can't really know something without knowing where it came from. Here's a preview of the planned builds: AMD K5 / ATI Rage 128 AMD K6 / Radeon 8500 AMD K7 / Radeon 9800XT AMD K7+ / Radeon X850 Socket 754 / Radeon X1950 Socket 939 / Radeon HD5870 (multi core+ rigs I wanted DX11+) Socket AM2 / Radeon HD6970 Socket AM2+ / Radeon HD7970 Socket AM3 / Radeon R9 290x Ryzen 1000 / RX 580 Ryzen 2000 / Vega64 Ryzen 3000 / 5700XT Ryzen 5000 / 6900XT I already have a few of these completed, and I'll share some pictures and specs next time I dig them out off my shelf. I have the Ryzen 5000 system down to the Socket 939 system completed 100%, short the Vega64 GPU at the time of writing. I consider this thread a general build thread where I may cross post new finds, might ask questions, and share my problems with these builds. I've been doing a lot of thrift store shopping, ebaying, etc, and I probably won't bore you folks too much with the little details. However, I absolutely will keep ya'll updated on the progress. And I'm hoping this community might be a good resource for troubleshooting, as I seem to have forgotten a lot of the little nuances associated with older systems. -_- I am cross-posting these builds on 2 forums, here and another. I won't link between them. The other forum's community I've been apart of since 2007, and I can't leave them. But ya'll over here at the classic platforms, you guys were so welcoming years ago and I just had to share it here too. And I'd love to make this forum my "home" for classic platform issues and goof offs.  |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 22, 2022 18:14:52 GMT -5
You're more than welcome here buddy.
Hit me up for parts if you like. I probably can help you out with a few items.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 22, 2022 18:24:13 GMT -5
I want a ticket to the museum at your house so I can tour it. |
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Post by Bones on Jul 22, 2022 18:38:27 GMT -5
Keep us in the loop on how it all goes.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 22, 2022 18:42:04 GMT -5
You're more than welcome here buddy. Hit me up for parts if you like. I probably can help you out with a few items. Thank you Mr.Scott! Parts, I really don't even know what I'm missing at this point. My "storage" area in my bedroom is an absolute mess right now thanks to these builds lol. I'm about 99% sure I'm good on the Socket A systems and newer (will be testing the Socket A's next week). I didn't end up with the CPU I "wanted" for the AthlonXP, but a 2500+ Barton is acceptable. Was shooting for a 3200+, and mine is a multi overclocker, not a FSB overclocker like I wanted. Such a minor detail, I can live with it. TY Bones btw, for telling me the difference on those. I just wanted to see that 3200+ on POST, that was all lol. My earlier Socket A should be perfect assuming it works, 1100MHz T-Bird. The K6 and K5 though, well yeah....... I bought a full K6 build on ebay from Russia, and its certainly nothing I wanted, but it was all I could find that looked like it would work. It supposedly has a 500Mhz chip in it, which is correct, but I don't even know if it works as I don't trust the PSU in it without opening it and checking. Nor the board. There's a K5 build on ebay I'm looking at, but they want $300 ish just for the barebones on it, case and board (brand new old stock). Short of things like HDD's, expansion cards, wifi cards, etc, and whatever I have here that doesn't work lol, I should at least have an idea of what all works finally soon at least. I was having issues the last like year now on getting these old rigs running, and I finally figured out why. I had molex splitters, needed them. Well, one plug on every stupid splitter was wired backwards. So there's no telling what all I've killed with those. -_- The really old systems I decided to use CF cards on for OS drives, but I still wanted data drives installed too for gaming on them. I have 3x 64GB CF cards on their way. Otherwise, I'm honestly kind of shooting in the dark here on storage, since I've long forgotten what even the limitations are on these older systems and OS's. I'm wanting these to all be "perfect" builds for their respectable era. EDIT: Also, I have to tell Bones himself a huge thank you! The recapping on some of these boards looks fantastic, and it DOES appear, so far anyway, that they all work. Sent him a couple 939 boards and my 2 Asus Socket A boards a while back. I'm not confident because of those molex splitters I mentioned, but that's not your fault. Stupid me thinking a distributor would wire their plugs right. Also, I think I'm confident enough in my own soldering skills now, I should be able to recap myself if I absolutely need to. @shrimpbrine: I'll make sure to have the coat check girl take your ticket at the door. Bwahaha. Nahh, I do need to snap some new pictures. Kind of wanting to get a few of the older ones actually working and near completed first though. I don't really want to tear down working stations until I have to or have the time to do so, that's all. The Ryzen rigs are all in use right now, the FX is also in use, and so is the Thuban lol. I promise, more pictures and full details will be on the way (again). |
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Post by Vinster on Jul 22, 2022 19:49:01 GMT -5
I'm intrigued, I've thought of this but settled with Virtual Machines, DOSBox, etc... to get what I wanted done. Then installed the VM's on my Sons PC and that's how we share..
How do you decide what HW you'll use per the OS? would you skip OS's like ME, Win2000 and Vista?
Vin
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 22, 2022 20:11:51 GMT -5
I'm intrigued, I've thought of this but settled with Virtual Machines, DOSBox, etc... to get what I wanted done. Then installed the VM's on my Sons PC and that's how we share.. How do you decide what HW you'll use per the OS? would you skip OS's like ME, Win2000 and Vista? Vin Well, honestly its mostly memory at this point. I've definitely made some mistakes along the way so far lol. I decided on all AMD / ATI as I figured it'd be easier to keep track of the generations that way, so that was the first step. I've also noticed over the last 20 ish years that AMD / ATI hardware TENDS TO last longer in legacy status than Intel / Nvidia does. Otherwise, I just picked what CPU's I was shooting for, and figured I'd try to pair a GPU with them as best of a fit as I could. And from there, well so far its mostly been trial and error lol. Again, knowing what I know from memory kind of has helped to some degree, but the legacy pre x64 builds I'm definitely having issues remembering what was right for those eras. The biggest hurdles honestly for me so far has been accessories, drives, expansion cards, memory requirements or limitations, things like that. Of course old vintage gear is finicky, bloated caps, stuff like that, so that's also a concern. EDIT: Along the way too, I kind of decided I wanted a GPU from every gen from ATI / AMD as well, just for shiggles. So that didn't help any either lol. Only one I'm missing from the collection now is a Vega64 / something between the 290x, RX580, and then the 5700XT. I figure a Vega would be appropriate there. I did skip the Radeon VII and Fury as both were redundant with my already owning a 290x and 5700xt. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 23, 2022 9:24:04 GMT -5
EDIT: Also, I have to tell Bones himself a huge thank you! The recapping on some of these boards looks fantastic, and it DOES appear, so far anyway, that they all work. Sent him a couple 939 boards and my 2 Asus Socket A boards a while back. I'm not confident because of those molex splitters I mentioned, but that's not your fault. Stupid me thinking a distributor would wire their plugs right. Also, I think I'm confident enough in my own soldering skills now, I should be able to recap myself if I absolutely need to. @shrimpbrine: I'll make sure to have the coat check girl take your ticket at the door. Bwahaha. Nahh, I do need to snap some new pictures. Kind of wanting to get a few of the older ones actually working and near completed first though. I don't really want to tear down working stations until I have to or have the time to do so, that's all. The Ryzen rigs are all in use right now, the FX is also in use, and so is the Thuban lol. I promise, more pictures and full details will be on the way (again). I've tried to get bones to recap several of my boards through the years. I'm convinced he doesn't like me. So fuck that guy. (I'm kidding, I don't mean that, I just have less love for him now.) The Coat girl better be fat and ugly so I can concentrate on your PC goodnesses lol. But yes, pictures tell 1000 tales! I remember comparing notes with you back in the day. Hope to help you remotely build all this up. Need help, just ask! |
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 23, 2022 18:42:44 GMT -5
Okay, okay, okay....... I'll go ahead and upload some teasers.  Here's the one I'm working on first. Just got my MX-5 in the mail and 4x1GB of KVR DDR400. Specs on it so far: Asus A8NSLI Premium Athlon x2 4200+ Toledo that does 3.1GHz stable 4x1GB KVR DDR400 (tried 4x2GB ECC stuff, but board wouldn't recognize past 4GB addressable) Chieftec Dragon case (black) (not here yet) eVGA 600BQ PSU Sapphire HD5770 (tried crossfire, but NF4 SLI boards and their top slots....) Xonar Xtreme Music Sound card Wireless card of some kind Hauppage 2250 TV Tuner since no crossfire 2x64GB HP SSD's RAID0 2TB Storage WD Blue HDD 3.5" Floppy ZIP 250 drive DVDRW + Lightscribe (only one, other one is dead) and a CF Reader The goal of this machine, well there really wasn't a goal. I have a great running Socket 939 with a 3GHz Opteron 180 and a HD5870. But I ended up with extras and I always loved Socket 939. So I figured I could USE this rig "daily". The idea now is that it'll be a usable 939 rig for whatever I need it for, I can use it for TV tuner (recording VHS tapes), and that I can ALSO use it to format and create media and whatnot for the even older rigs that are still to come. Ignore the case, that's where the Socket 754 rig is going now that I scored another Chieftec Dragon. I was originally going to stuff it all into this case its in now, but well....that poor CPU is overheating as soon as I put the side panel on. Could be mount related, might not be. Kind of why I bought MX-5, its currently mounted with ketchup.  It is pictured here with G92 GTS 250 1GB SLI which I tried (and the 5770 crossfire), but those cards are too big to use the stock SATA ports. It's also pictured with my A8N32-SLI Deluxe, which was the board I WANTED to use in it because of the 8GB of RAM thing. I guess I could swap back to that board, but I was legitimately having mount issues on that board with this cooler and I wanted to use my Xigmatek S1283 cooler as its proper era. ![]()   |
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Post by Bones on Jul 23, 2022 19:45:16 GMT -5
Guess what I've gone and done this morning?
I setup one of my 939's and running it as a daily ATM, it's doing fine for web browsing too.
Using my A8N32-SLI Deluxe with my Opty 180 cooled by my old Tt V1 cooler, 4 sticks of 1GB OCZ Plats and running Linux on it, loaded onto an SSD.
So far, so good.
I'm probrably gonna reconfig the daily again in a few days, maybe a week or two but I wanted to see how well it can browse the web these days and besides, it's needs to run for a bit anyway.
I'm glad to see the Premium board doing well and hopefully it will continue to.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 23, 2022 20:25:24 GMT -5
Guess what I've gone and done this morning? I setup one of my 939's and running it as a daily ATM, it's doing fine for web browsing too. Using my A8N32-SLI Deluxe with my Opty 180 cooled by my old Tt V1 cooler, 4 sticks of 1GB OCZ Plats and running Linux on it, loaded onto an SSD. So far, so good. I'm probrably gonna reconfig the daily again in a few days, maybe a week or two but I wanted to see how well it can browse the web these days and besides, it's needs to run for a bit anyway. I'm glad to see the Premium board doing well and hopefully it will continue to. Oh same! I really think the 32 Deluxe is probably fine too. The premium has a slightly better pcie / pci layout anyway if not using sli / crossfire. It's just a huge bummer I can't get a hd5000 gpu to work in the top slot. Apparently it's a bios problem with nf chipsets. I read somebody fixed it, but I have zero clue how. |
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Post by Vinster on Jul 23, 2022 23:58:46 GMT -5
that's a nice system.. though I'm really happy case manufacturers figured out rotating the HDD cages was a good idea...
Vin
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 24, 2022 6:13:21 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Jul 24, 2022 8:33:43 GMT -5
Okay, so after about 6 hours tonight, I've got the Socket 939 rig running at 2.75GHz seemingly stable-ish, however I'm having a problem with RAM. It's not happy with any of the KVR sticks I bought, nor the stuff I had on hand (generic 1GB's without a name). It's only seemingly working with the 2x1GB OCZ DDR400 2.5-3-3-6 sticks. I tried pumping the speeds down to even just the 100 divider at 3-4-4-8 timings, and still nothing. I can't imagine all these sticks are bad, but its very possible some are bad and its just not happy with my ECC sticks. Sooooo I don't know what to do now. There's no Corsair or OCZ 4x1GB kits available on ebay anymore. I might have to finish this, but keep it put up without RAM or something (the OCZ sticks I have are planned for the Socket A). I can't seem to find ANY matching 4x1GB sets anymore, nor even 2 matching 2x1GB sets. The ones I can find, people seem to think they're worth gold. Ugh. -_- Here's how I had it going on the bench though. I played Crysis on it for like an hour tonight. ![]() ![]() View AttachmentI will say the sticks I've got (PC 3200 OCZ 2x 1GB Platinum sticks per set) weren't a "Matched" set, just two different sets but they all work well together. As far as I know all sticks like mine are Infinion chipped so I doubt if you get two sets you'll have issues simply because they are two different sets. As for mixing ECC with non-ECC I believe that doesn't work well at all. I've seen them on fleabay, not the cheapest but sometimes you can find them at a reasonable price. |
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 24, 2022 17:30:27 GMT -5
Okay, so after about 6 hours tonight, I've got the Socket 939 rig running at 2.75GHz seemingly stable-ish, however I'm having a problem with RAM. It's not happy with any of the KVR sticks I bought, nor the stuff I had on hand (generic 1GB's without a name). It's only seemingly working with the 2x1GB OCZ DDR400 2.5-3-3-6 sticks. I tried pumping the speeds down to even just the 100 divider at 3-4-4-8 timings, and still nothing. I can't imagine all these sticks are bad, but its very possible some are bad and its just not happy with my ECC sticks. Sooooo I don't know what to do now. There's no Corsair or OCZ 4x1GB kits available on ebay anymore. I might have to finish this, but keep it put up without RAM or something (the OCZ sticks I have are planned for the Socket A). I can't seem to find ANY matching 4x1GB sets anymore, nor even 2 matching 2x1GB sets. The ones I can find, people seem to think they're worth gold. Ugh. -_- Here's how I had it going on the bench though. I played Crysis on it for like an hour tonight. ![]() ![]() View AttachmentI will say the sticks I've got (PC 3200 OCZ 2x 1GB Platinum sticks per set) weren't a "Matched" set, just two different sets but they all work well together. As far as I know all sticks like mine are Infinion chipped so I doubt if you get two sets you'll have issues simply because they are two different sets. As for mixing ECC with non-ECC I believe that doesn't work well at all. I've seen them on fleabay, not the cheapest but sometimes you can find them at a reasonable price. Perhaps I didn't specify well enough...here's what I tried: OCZ DDR400 2x1GB 2.5-3-3-6 sticks = WORKED KVR DDR400 4x1GB 3-3-3-8 sticks = BSOD IMMEDIATELY even at DDR200 / stock BCLK KVR ECC DDR400 2x2GB 3-4-4-8 sticks = BSOD IMMEDIATELY OCZ DDR400 2x1 + Generic no name DDR400 2x1GB = BSOD IMMEDIATELY It's possible that my generic no name sticks are bad. That's very possible. So, I assumed mixing those in with the OCZ's were going to be a problem, not to mention the fact that they're wildly different IC's. The KVR 2x2GB ECC sticks (I have 4 of these), I actually have had working before as a 4x2GB set in the A8N32-SLI Deluxe before the recap. However I did figure that they wouldn't play too nicely in the Premium board, nor with the Athlon64 x2. Maybe if I swapped to an Opteron those might get better, hard to say. The KVR 4x1GB was what I just bought, and those don't run at even DDR200 3-3-3-8. The OCZ DDR400 2x1GB all on its own is working fine. I even accidentally booted at DDR500 speeds with those. |
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Post by Bones on Jul 24, 2022 18:13:11 GMT -5
If wanting to populate all 4 slots you'll have to run them at 2T timings, I know it's possible to use 1T but it's just easier to use what it wants instead instead of fighting it.
I've noted little difference over it and the system is fine, biggest thing is to have enough RAM in the first place.
It's possible an Opty will handle them better, I can't confirm that but can't hurt to try it and see.
You may also have a simple BIOS issue with it, I'd look into that if all fails to work.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 24, 2022 18:33:57 GMT -5
You will be a lot better off with just 2x1GB sticks I am not surprised it doesnt like 4 sticks unless you are going to run at stock speeds.
As Rodney said try an earlier Bios and the latest the latest bios which should support a wider range of sticks.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 24, 2022 21:03:24 GMT -5
So, a small update.....
The A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard does NOT even POST at all, with any config.
The Athlon64 x2 4200+ Toledo that I had that used to do 3.1GHz stable......that's where the IMC issues were.
Swapped an Opteron 165 CCBBE stepping into the A8NSLI Premium motherboard, and its working fine. I've actually got 8GB in it right now testing at DDR400 speeds and an okay enough I suppose 2.70GHz overclock. Was hoping to see higher than that, but I know this chip, and I know this chip doesn't OC very far. So, I guess I'm on the lookout for another LCBxE stepping Opteron 170 or greater. There's one, ONE available on ebay but its $50. I'm not paying $50, so it might just stick at 2.7GHz with the 165 installed. All 8GB of RAM is working fine. The 4x1GB KVR DDR400 sticks.....work fine. It was an IMC issue. Probably another failure from those dang molex splitters (hence why the A8N32 SLI Deluxe is dead too).
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 24, 2022 21:58:24 GMT -5
Here's where its sitting at right now. Seemingly stable, I'm going to let it run p95 for another hour or so and then bust out the Socket A setup to see what's alive or dead in it tonight I think. This rig, I think is now ready to be built finally. Well, I can't upload the image for some reason, exceeded attachment space or something error. 2.70GHz, 1.50v on an Opteron 165 CCBBE 195MHz on the RAM @ 2.5-3-3-6-9-12-2T timings (4x2GB mind you) Temps are hitting 50*C load peak HT Link is at 1200Mhz (a little high, but its fine) CPU / motherboard is absolutely refusing to budge much over 300 HTT, which I figured. The only thing I can do better would be to look for an Opteron 170+ LCBxE stepping, but meh....not worth it. EDIT: It's now been shelved, it lasted an hour p95'ing. Good enough for now. Chieftec Dragon comes in Wednesday looks like. It can sit on the shelf till I have a case to put it in. Testing the Socket A kit now. My NF2 and AthlonXP 2500+ rig with an ATI Radeon X1950XT or Pro or whatever it is is installing Windows 7 right now for testing. No problems at all with it so far (*knocks on wood). This is GREAT news!  I might actually be able to fully build the Socket A rig tonight maybe. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 25, 2022 0:54:19 GMT -5
I thought period correct wouldnt that be XP especially with Socket A I dont think I have tried W7 on Socket A would have to be 32bit.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 25, 2022 3:36:25 GMT -5
I thought period correct wouldnt that be XP especially with Socket A I dont think I have tried W7 on Socket A would have to be 32bit. You would be correct, yes. I'm just trying to get things to actually FUNCTION right now. Windows 7 is easier for me in that regard. No needing to futz with HDD controller drivers, LAN drivers, stuff like that. The Socket A AthlonXP will be running Windows XP when all is said and done. I'm just trying to get all of the rigs 100% functional first. It finished installing Win7 a little bit ago. Really really REALLY slow, like unusually slow even for a Socket A rig. I'm betting its the 32GB CF Card I installed Windows to, so trying it again with a 160GB junker HDD I found laying around instead. |
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Post by Bones on Jul 25, 2022 5:18:00 GMT -5
So, a small update..... The A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard does NOT even POST at all, with any config. The Athlon64 x2 4200+ Toledo that I had that used to do 3.1GHz stable......that's where the IMC issues were. Swapped an Opteron 165 CCBBE stepping into the A8NSLI Premium motherboard, and its working fine. I've actually got 8GB in it right now testing at DDR400 speeds and an okay enough I suppose 2.70GHz overclock. Was hoping to see higher than that, but I know this chip, and I know this chip doesn't OC very far. So, I guess I'm on the lookout for another LCBxE stepping Opteron 170 or greater. There's one, ONE available on ebay but its $50. I'm not paying $50, so it might just stick at 2.7GHz with the 165 installed. All 8GB of RAM is working fine. The 4x1GB KVR DDR400 sticks.....work fine. It was an IMC issue. Probably another failure from those dang molex splitters (hence why the A8N32 SLI Deluxe is dead too). Need the other A8N32? You know what to do.  |
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 25, 2022 6:00:33 GMT -5
So, a small update..... The A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard does NOT even POST at all, with any config. The Athlon64 x2 4200+ Toledo that I had that used to do 3.1GHz stable......that's where the IMC issues were. Swapped an Opteron 165 CCBBE stepping into the A8NSLI Premium motherboard, and its working fine. I've actually got 8GB in it right now testing at DDR400 speeds and an okay enough I suppose 2.70GHz overclock. Was hoping to see higher than that, but I know this chip, and I know this chip doesn't OC very far. So, I guess I'm on the lookout for another LCBxE stepping Opteron 170 or greater. There's one, ONE available on ebay but its $50. I'm not paying $50, so it might just stick at 2.7GHz with the 165 installed. All 8GB of RAM is working fine. The 4x1GB KVR DDR400 sticks.....work fine. It was an IMC issue. Probably another failure from those dang molex splitters (hence why the A8N32 SLI Deluxe is dead too). Need the other A8N32? You know what to do. Nope. Appreciate it, but nope.....I have my "ultimate" 939 build already with the 3GHz 180 and HD5870. This one, I'm just dinking with and will probably actually use it on occasion instead of busting out the "museum" piece. I'm just going to have to be happy with it as is. Besides, its the CPU holding me back now, 2.70GHz on it is about as good as I can do with a 9x multi on the Premium board. It's fine. And besides, 8GB of RAM in it....... |
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Post by Bones on Jul 25, 2022 6:18:06 GMT -5
Nevertheless the offer stands.
Besides, if I can help I'm happy to do so.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 25, 2022 6:40:38 GMT -5
Nevertheless the offer stands. Besides, if I can help I'm happy to do so. Maybe I can pick your brain instead....... So I'm working on this AthlonXP rig. A7N8X board I think it was, the NF2 Asus board. Windows 7 x86 on it for now, just trying to get it working. If I launch CPU-z on it, it locks up and refuses to POST again unless I let it sit here and drain for like 15 minutes unplugged / no CMOS battery. What gives with that? Otherwise, it's been sitting here on my desk chugging along fine since about 11pm last night (about 6 hours). It's not that its overheating and I doubt its unstable, its running stock speeds, all auto on everything for now. RAM is my 2x1GB OCZ DDR400, 2.5-3-3-6 sticks, but it does it with the KVR DDR400's too. Swapping components, taking things out....nothing brings it back to life except just sitting. Now, I do recall Socket A / P4 rigs doing this before 20 years ago, but usually just when overclocking and tweaking things, not during regular daily use. Do I try a different CPU or do I try out the Asus Via motherboard here? Is it even an actual fault of the system? At this point, I cannot pinpoint the fault 100% exactly as its been running rock solid other than when I tried to open CPUz. If I avoid CPUz, its fine so far. I've got Windows 7 SP2 installed, a browser, drivers......that's about it so far since its been so slow trying to figure out what software even works on a non SSE2 CPU. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 25, 2022 16:48:38 GMT -5
Have to use vintage version of CPUz. Link to my OneDrive. 1drv.ms/u/s!Akv2fO-y-lM7i33Gld0cn37ef_p5?e=J4QS2c As for the board, CMOS battery HAS to be above 2.9v otherwise weird shit happens. |
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 25, 2022 16:51:27 GMT -5
Have to use vintage version of CPUz. Link to my OneDrive. 1drv.ms/u/s!Akv2fO-y-lM7i33Gld0cn37ef_p5?e=J4QS2c As for the board, CMOS battery HAS to be above 2.9v otherwise weird shit happens. That's really dumb about the CPUz version. It shouldn't be just randomly causing a lockup if it doesn't work right, it should just not work lol. CMOS battery is brand new, and reading 3.30v with my DMM. So that's not it. Maybe the NF2 is just a really tired old board and maybe I'll have better luck using the Via board? I think they both support 400 FSB, so shouldn't be a problem shooting for a 2500+ at 3200+ speeds. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 25, 2022 17:21:53 GMT -5
No PCI lock on VIA board. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 25, 2022 18:29:28 GMT -5
CPUz has a good chance of locking up the VIA board too 462 platform you are allowed to use the old version on HWBot (everything else new version) because so many people have problems with the latest versions.
Dont worry your board is doing nothing wrong there.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Jul 25, 2022 18:42:59 GMT -5
No PCI lock on VIA board. CPUz has a good chance of locking up the VIA board too 462 platform you are allowed to use the old version on HWBot (everything else new version) because so many people have problems with the latest versions. Dont worry your board is doing nothing wrong there. I'm not sure if I need a PCI lock though? I'm not trying to do anything crazy with the Socket A rigs, I care too much about them to try to overclock the snot out of them in 2022. I just wanted to see 200x11 "AthlonXP 3200+" on POST. Good to note about the VIA board potentially locking up too. I'm going to break the system back out again here in a few minutes and do some more playing with it. Does the old version of CPUz include the little CPUz benchmark utility? I know that's a somewhat "modern" addition. Meh, either way.....I will continue to press on until I find a combo that works as I want it to. I "should" have enough kit on hand to do so with this Socket A setup. The Asus VIA needs to be tested too anyway and it should just plug n play well enough with Windows 7, just to make sure everything is copesetic. Honestly.......I'd rather use the VIA board with my 1100MHz T-Bird anyway for my "P3" era build. Board would be a TAD too new, but whatever I have a 990FX with my Thuban so its not the end of the world anyway. The Asus VIA board is probably better than my ECS VIA 133MHz board that I have the T-Bird in right now. The only real reason I have the ECS board was because I happened to score it BNIB new old stock. It'll make a good backup for the T-Bird anyway. Yeah, I think I'll continue with the NF2 board for now, and save the Asus VIA board for that. |
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I might actually be able to fully build the Socket A rig tonight maybe.