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Post by austin86 on Sept 30, 2022 8:11:45 GMT -5
Oh yea diff bios sizes, but i have a 2mb chip laying around from an asus p55 if i need it Also ive flashed my p5q with many many bioses even from diff manufacturers and that thing hasnt even died What bios and did they work? Also not all boards like different size chips
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Sept 30, 2022 21:11:47 GMT -5
Oh yea diff bios sizes, but i have a 2mb chip laying around from an asus p55 if i need it Also ive flashed my p5q with many many bioses even from diff manufacturers and that thing hasnt even died What bios and did they work? Also not all boards like different size chips P45 neo fir, boots but upon restart just gets stuck and doesnt boot Tp45xe working but garbage bios with only offset volts and not actual volts so idk what the hell im setting, also couldnt get 500 fsb to even boot. Tpower bios just straight up dont work and shuts off upon powering on Ecs p45 black, working but barebones complete trash bios with no adjustments, couldnt get 500 to even boot Gigabyte ep45, stuck on code 26 right before it gives a display but not bad for shoving an award bios on an ami bios board Asrock p45de working but again terrible bios with no adjustments P5k pro yea didnt work and didnt wanna post though this is a p35 bios Basically all the p5q bioses even the crappy crippled se ones work, even with a 2mb chip off my p6t deluxe v2 i could get a deluxe bios to work but idiot ezflash kept thinking the bios is corrupted. Though the maximus ii bios didnt wanna work and got stuck at a d7 code. Atm it runs on a p5qd turbo bios with ebb swapped to a maximus ii formula and no hiccups Thats all i can remember I did f around with modding the p6t but didnt do it as extensively as the p5q Msi x58 big bang or whatever the hell their top of the line is called, only boots with 1 ram stick in the 4th slot, didnt wanna go into bios iirc Gigabyte x58 sniper and a few others i think, didnt work, favoured the 4th slot since it got the farthest when ram is on the 4th slot Biostar tpower x58 yea didnt work or post Screwing around with the other p6t and p6x58 bioses. P6x58d premium can make my psc run seemingly stable at 5-9-7-24 2140 but actually crashes on anything else if its not p95 large ffts and 2nd + 3rd channel dies above 1800, unsure if the p6x58d-e is any better and also nukes half the rear usb ports. P6x58-e pro boots but cant get into bios cause it thinks its corrupted, p6t ws pro works seemingly fine but i need to hold down power button for ~3-5 secs so it dont shutoff while attempting to post, p6t6, p6t7, p6td, r2/3 dont wanna post. Ended up sticking with the deluxe v2 bios since it wasnt ebb crippled (same ebb as the rampage and p6x58 boards) and so the damn usb ports would work
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 4, 2022 8:02:38 GMT -5
This is a very random thing but i need help with mobo vrm amputation Basically bought a broken p7p55d that hasnt been used in a year and indeed it is alive (showed some codes via my pci debug card) but as soon as i turned it on sparking noises and next thing you know a part of the vrm is just burning Ive tried getting current away from this burning part of the vrm (its the charred bit thats burning/shorting) but randomly removing smds doesnt seem to be working at all so now im looking at amputating some of the vrm phases so the stupid thing doesnt keep burning. I just wanna do this for experience as its very likely the board is fked but some very slim hope that it may be alive since this is just a part of the vrm thats gone
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Post by austin86 on Oct 4, 2022 15:14:18 GMT -5
might be a short on a trace inside the board
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 8, 2022 6:03:51 GMT -5
Remove the 2 mosfets with a hot air tool and tweezers then clean it up with a cotton bud and acetone or alcohol then fire it up if its shorts in the board it will still spark it could be a shorted mosfet though. Also if it has heatsinks on it you dont need them to fire it up.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 8, 2022 6:28:32 GMT -5
Remove the 2 mosfets with a hot air tool and tweezers then clean it up with a cotton bud and acetone or alcohol then fire it up if its shorts in the board it will still spark it could be a shorted mosfet though. Also if it has heatsinks on it you dont need them to fire it up. eh already gave up on the board, psu decided to not wanna turn on with the board, psu being a sissy even after i removed a ton of other smds Yea im just reselling it now cause with the heatsinks on it looks pretty normal and only the vrm is what blew up, the other parts of the board are totally fine since it gave some postcodes when i first turned it on
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 8, 2022 16:46:59 GMT -5
I hope you are explaining whats wrong with it then and selling it for parts.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 9, 2022 3:52:13 GMT -5
I hope you are explaining whats wrong with it then and selling it for parts. Ofc im selling it for parts, not gonna be that a hole scammer that scams ppl ive already been scammed once on a broken board cause the scummy seller didnt mention any broken pins while in the photos covering the damn socket, not to mention diff socket cover when i got it than in the photo so definitely they would have known about it yet didnt tell me
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 14, 2022 8:06:37 GMT -5
Welp got the ep45 ds3 sold And now ive got 33$ to spend which is the highest since i got the 27$ for that giga x48t Now that im looking at already working (able to post) but odd issue mobos instead of mostly luck based 1/4-1/2 gambling based broken boards i should be able to get some more money and get some better stuff Ud boards wise already found another 2 ep45 ud3l and those shouldnt be selling out anytime soon since they arent listed as giga ep45 and just gigabyte mobo which noones gonna find and at those prices noones gonna be interested either, ill prob jump on the opportunity to buy another cheaper ud or ds board when they come by just to flip again. If these inferior ud3l or anything not a ud3r/p or part of the ds series have crippled bios crossflashing should fix that, i wonder if that bios test clip can actually work though Oh and i have a shuttle x58 board on the way + an i7 920 so now ive got access to x58 again, i even scored a deal on a r2x with fked pins for 10$ and doesnt seem like any important pins are broken mostly just vcc vss and vtt with the only concern being a reserved pin but that has been unbent and fixed (the top of the pin sheared but its bent abit forwards so likely doesnt matter) already so should just fire up fine and i can sell for more money, maybe ill give ebay a go for selling since x58 seems to have completely tanked in value here in indo, not even an r2 gene will sell at 65$. So now theres potentially some money to finally get me to a ddr4 platform but yea looks like itll be awhile and unfortunately likely by mid or the end of 13th gen so doesnt matter anyways Guess i should just focus on oc rather than go ddr4, just gotta make some sort of dice pot if it isnt as simple as just chucking some 99% ipa and crushed dice in a metal can and slapping that ontop the cpu
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Post by rushed on Oct 14, 2022 23:05:35 GMT -5
Guess i should just focus on oc rather than go ddr4, just gotta make some sort of dice pot if it isnt as simple as just chucking some 99% ipa and crushed dice in a metal can and slapping that ontop the cpu That would work for low wattage parts, but anything more than like 35W you'll want something with a bit more mass. Honestly buying a small copper puck and a copper tube about 1 5/8th to 1 and 7/8ths in size and soldering them together would work if you know how to do that.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 15, 2022 1:10:08 GMT -5
Guess i should just focus on oc rather than go ddr4, just gotta make some sort of dice pot if it isnt as simple as just chucking some 99% ipa and crushed dice in a metal can and slapping that ontop the cpu That would work for low wattage parts, but anything more than like 35W you'll want something with a bit more mass. Honestly buying a small copper puck and a copper tube about 1 5/8th to 1 and 7/8ths in size and soldering them together would work if you know how to do that. Literally just use some flux and start soldering away but my generic 2$ 65w iron seems to be hot garbage, could using a lighter or candle work for soldering? Since its not gonna burn or break anything cause were working with just metals, how thicc does the copper puck need to be though?
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Post by rushed on Oct 15, 2022 3:30:51 GMT -5
That would work for low wattage parts, but anything more than like 35W you'll want something with a bit more mass. Honestly buying a small copper puck and a copper tube about 1 5/8th to 1 and 7/8ths in size and soldering them together would work if you know how to do that. Literally just use some flux and start soldering away but my generic 2$ 65w iron seems to be hot garbage, could using a lighter or candle work for soldering? Since its not gonna burn or break anything cause were working with just metals, how thicc does the copper puck need to be though? For something like this you'd want a 1/2 inch puck or greater, 2-3 inches would be ideal so you can drill some 3/8ths holes in it about half way down to help with transfer. Now to address the soldering... You want to rough up the copper surfaces with something like emery cloth or sand paper apply flux (on diameter pipe like this tinning flux would help) preheat the joint with your torch (those 15 dollar propane handheld ones work - if you have a map or oxy torch it'll be easier to get up to temp though) then apply your solder 95/5 is fine and remove the heat from the area. The joint should melt and suck in the solder.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 15, 2022 4:47:46 GMT -5
Literally just use some flux and start soldering away but my generic 2$ 65w iron seems to be hot garbage, could using a lighter or candle work for soldering? Since its not gonna burn or break anything cause were working with just metals, how thicc does the copper puck need to be though? For something like this you'd want a 1/2 inch puck or greater, 2-3 inches would be ideal so you can drill some 3/8ths holes in it about half way down to help with transfer. Now to address the soldering... You want to rough up the copper surfaces with something like emery cloth or sand paper apply flux (on diameter pipe like this tinning flux would help) preheat the joint with your torch (those 15 dollar propane handheld ones work - if you have a map or oxy torch it'll be easier to get up to temp though) then apply your solder 95/5 is fine and remove the heat from the area. The joint should melt and suck in the solder. Hmm yea i can tell building a pot is gonna be quite expensive, but atm the buisness side of me fixing and flipping stuff seems to be looking up so by the time i actually have some time to spend on building this thing i should have enough money to buy the equipment, but could i use aluminium instead? Just need something that isnt gonna be expensive af (incl tools) and actually introduce me to screwing around with subzero cause im not that serious just yet with my oc shenanigans
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 18, 2022 22:18:34 GMT -5
Ok i got the r2x semi working but it takes forever to get from d9 code to d4 and gets stuck on a d4 code and thats using my pscs, also doesnt seem to like having only 1 stick in and just keeps rolling over on a d8 code. Maybe it needs some socket and ram cleaning now since stuck code indicates a ram issue, but also needs to get 1 pin constantly readjusted whenever the cpu gets swapped which is abit annoying
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 19, 2022 6:32:43 GMT -5
Yea r2x still not working so imma take off the heatsink for a deep clean but its stuck on some power module under the fancy rog light thingy, how in the hell do you remove this heatsink? Since it dont seem like that power thingy is removable and the heatsink is stuck under it
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Post by austin86 on Oct 19, 2022 10:02:24 GMT -5
Rampage 2? the dram thing under the Rog light ? its just socketed in and should pull right out. some time that part dies you know.
This might help. koolance.com/files/products/manuals/manual_mb-plt,asr2e_d100eng.pdf
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 20, 2022 3:21:38 GMT -5
Rampage 2 prob dead since nb is now chipped while i was cleaning it, eh ill still break even since its a damn rampage someones gonna want it as a collectors item ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯ currently just leaving out to dry after dunking in water for deep clean after fully discharging the board incase its still alive but with the odd ram issues something tells me this things a goner anyways And now im likely about to buy a semi working msi h55 board and just wondering if the spi pinout shown on elmorlabs forum is still accurate for such an old mobo since msi bios well i guess its ok but i wanna see if it can do more with a better bios Heres a dead one that died after attempting to recover from bad oc settings cause yea old msi is trash but oh well just gotta be more careful with this other msi snowflake board im gonna get so it doesnt randomly die, maybe better bios will help since the stock bios cant auto recover
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Post by freeagent on Oct 20, 2022 15:59:06 GMT -5
RIP sweet sweet Rampage
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 21, 2022 22:23:08 GMT -5
RIP sweet sweet Rampage Welp theres allota other stuff thatll make me money anyways and with the state that it was in, itd prob have been pretty darn worthless if i managed to fix the ram issue which was prob unfixable by just dunking the thing in water anyways (needing to rebend a pin every time you swap cpu, the bent pins, even some corrosion damage on the top left) Even if i did build myself a rework station and swapped both the cpu and nb i still have doubts itd even work with the corrosion damage which may be a factor in the ram behaving oddly Prob gonna sell like 30$ or something as a collectors board so still profit, i dont really intend to sell unless i get alot of profit (bought the thing at 10$) since im already starting to get quite abit more money from flips now that im looking at the half working but atleast posting mobos and not dead pos that sure alot of the gambling is gone when i ask a ton of questions for extra detail but its still there in the form of luck (ex burning but working p7p55d, p7h55m-lx bullshit powerbutton defect). Also focusing on dead cpus cause most of the time thats just rinse with IPA and theres like 200% easy profit maybe ill indeed get enough money to build a diy half assed rework station that may be able to revive the rampage (assuming the ram issue is socket related or filth related and not completely unrepairable) hence why im not gonna sell the rampage for cheap, course ill take 100$-120$ (sell on ebay) over 30$ or atleast some learning experience + ability to now buy cheap boards with issues being fked beyond repair sockets or chipsets which i can very likely haggle down a ton since noone but scrappers wants normally beyond repair boards. Oh and the rampage iii black edition bios does indeed work with the rampage ii just that it also gets stuck like the stock bios cause board is fked, flashed the 2nd bios with a ch341a and used the bios jumper thingy to swap between the 2 bioses And im now gonna start getting into haswell boards cause theres some cheap but half working b85 and h81, there are also broken h87 that i can likely crossflash to z87 cause it seems like h87 is just z87 but oc ability disabled. I mean i can flash my p7h55m-lx to a p7p55d-e premium bios and still have it somehow get to the splash screen, ofc doesnt get into bios but with a p7p55 bios i can get it into the bios and these chipsets do differ in featuresets and not just an arbitrary no ocing (h55 has an igpu, less pcie lanes or something, p55 has no igpu more pcie lanes). Just gotta hope the broken i3 4130 is not fr dead and revivable by just spraying the thing with IPA (can verify if alive since the h81 im gonna buy definitely has no issues posting to bios) Later ill get into gpus since alot of the ones i see are just gpu left in a box or on a shelf for an extended period of time unused and the gpu "died" after being unused which is likely just spray the thing with IPA
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 27, 2022 7:50:05 GMT -5
An update on the rampage board yea even after cleaning still does the same shit, dont think the nb getting chipped did anything to it since it still does the slow d9 -> stuck d4
Welp now im just gonna give up on it, prob beyond repair, maybe i can still get a decent amount for it since its a collectors board. I reckon somewhere around 30$ but may go as low as 20$ since the top right is corroded, now i just need some dummy bios chips since i want those 2mb chips and the things effectively dead anyways
Also bought 5 untested boards but thats pretty irrelevant, the only board that was gonna work (ep45 ud3l) is now doing that stupid 00 and immedeate off, seems like bios or something is shorted since it auto turns on as soon as power is given. Could have been working but decided to be a useless failiure instead, the other boards are just toast, 2 have chipped nbs, 1 is shorted, and 1 doesnt even give a clk signal and gets stuck at 00, chipped nbs repairable but i dont have a rework station, other 2 are fucked likely unrepairable. Only about 5-6$ loss after resale so not bad considering if all of them were fine could have been upto 70$ (spent like 18$ on these)
Now i have some deals lined up with 3 "dead" i5 3470 + a "dead" i3 4130 (literally just spray the back with ipa and boom its back to life) and a few half working 1155 and 1150 boards, most interesting being a cpu killer asus p8h61m-le only noticable issue according to seller is 5v rail being oddly high but that may be psu related, would be interesting to know what would cause a board to start murdering cpus since it is just an h61 doesnt exactly have 2v+ volt setting in the bios
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 27, 2022 8:07:20 GMT -5
CPU's are fed more than just Vcore. VTT and PLL are two just to name a couple and can kill CPU's quickly. A PSU with a slightly high 5v rail wont kill anything the board has onboard regulators on it for just about everything the 5v rail does.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Oct 27, 2022 19:36:14 GMT -5
CPU's are fed more than just Vcore. VTT and PLL are two just to name a couple and can kill CPU's quickly. A PSU with a slightly high 5v rail wont kill anything the board has onboard regulators on it for just about everything the 5v rail does. hmm Could just be the volt regulators on the board just going nuts, i also got a deal on 4 "dead" 1155 pentiums and a crappy q8200 so ill just use some disposable cpus for testing since that killer board seems normal aside from high 5v reading and apparently murdering cpus
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Nov 12, 2022 1:12:06 GMT -5
Ayo ive found an x58 classified for 47$ with an i7 930, im pretty sure its worth buying but may aswell ask for opinions. I mean they seem very rare since i havent seen any evga boards at all for sale aside from this classified x58 Wasnt expecting to find this when browsing fb marketplace on my moms account on her phone, also found an msi p45 platinum at 10$ though looking at hwbot msi seems pretty trash for fsb, maybe i could flip it for a few $ profit since it is apparently their top end p45
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 12, 2022 11:37:07 GMT -5
Go for it. I enjoy reading how you destroy all the boards you get!!!
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Post by georgekokovinis on Nov 12, 2022 11:47:36 GMT -5
Go for it. I enjoy reading how you destroy all the boards you get!!! The smartest comment in years. 17 pages of garbage. Wish I could pile up 17 pages of posts, regarding the world of ddr4 and ddr5.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 12, 2022 11:59:14 GMT -5
Go for it. I enjoy reading how you destroy all the boards you get!!! The smartest comment in years. 17 pages of garbage. Wish I could pile up 17 pages of posts, regarding the world of ddr4 and ddr5. Lol. Ddr4/5 - I enjoy watching other forums, people brag ddr4/5 performance based on AIDA64 latency and Cinebench only.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Nov 12, 2022 12:21:17 GMT -5
And many more benchmarks. All, as a matter of fact.
At least other forums are not abandoned, looking like the Sahara desert, with two main topics - This and pre-historic hw.
Is it 6 or 7 members visiting here ?
In case anyone is wondering which are the main reasons of demotivation. Well, at least one of them.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 12, 2022 14:48:00 GMT -5
And many more benchmarks. All, as a matter of fact. At least other forums are not abandoned, looking like the Sahara desert, with two main topics - This and pre-historic hw. Is it 6 or 7 members visiting here ? In case anyone is wondering which are the main reasons of demotivation. Well, at least one of them. Yeah, at least or more than half of all forums have been abandoned.. Competitive overclocking is a sport of very few people and less and less every year. But I don't think Warp9 systems forum is to blame for that. Im running pimod 32m on a 2700+ at 2.450ghz. Because that's what I want to do. Nobody wants to spend thousands of dollars to make points at a site that's been loosing participants regularly for years and years. Most people spend the money to be entertained by playing photo realistic video games instead...
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Post by georgekokovinis on Nov 12, 2022 15:02:25 GMT -5
Yeap, time to return to my old hobby.
Sports cars. At least I am out in fresh air enjoying 9000rpm.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 12, 2022 16:29:18 GMT -5
Yeap, time to return to my old hobby. Sports cars. At least I am out in fresh air enjoying 9000rpm. We have a car section George. I'd love to read your hot rod experiences. We are brothers in this forum. Some brothers xome and hang out, others don't. I haven't spoken with my oldest brother in law in years and he doesn't even call mom every year either. He's a sheep amongst the wolves I guess. I hope to revisit Lga 1700 soon. The weather is nice and cold by us now. Should help with the cooling.
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