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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 4, 2022 17:35:30 GMT -5
Got a box of stuff going to you. I will message now.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 4, 2022 17:47:36 GMT -5
Got a box of stuff going to you. I will message now. Sweet! I've got paypal at the ready. Slight update on the Ryzen setup...... So, swapping the GTX 960 in there absolutely did fix it. So, the Ryzen 1400 rig is 100% functional. But this doesn't answer why all 5 of my RX 580's are broken in Ryzen setups, both a B350 and B450 board. So next on the list for troubleshooting, I suppose is going to have to be trying that CSM trick mentioned yesterday. I'll update you guys if that fixes anything.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 5, 2022 22:22:42 GMT -5
So I've been tinkering with the CSM settings for the last full day. I think right now I have CSM enabled and UEFI options only set. It lasted about 16 hours before it crashed this time, but alas, still crashed. -_- I've tried CSM / Legacy only set (when it was crashing fairly quickly). I tried disabling CSM, no change. I don't get it. The cards are stable, and the board is stable with an Nvidia card.
I could try updating the VBIOS, but I don't even know where to start on that. The last one I tried to do it to, I bricked the stupid thing.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 5, 2022 23:09:35 GMT -5
This isnt the first time that I have heard of this RX580 crashing with a AMD chipset board do a search on the internet its full of people with the same problems. And there is no fix other than to change the card to something else. The RX480/580 wearnt a very good card the performance was poor compared to Fury which they replaced and no better that 290X. Also they were plagued with problems like you are having I dont see you getting this one sorted.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 5, 2022 23:24:06 GMT -5
This isnt the first time that I have heard of this RX580 crashing with a AMD chipset board do a search on the internet its full of people with the same problems. And there is no fix other than to change the card to something else. The RX480/580 wearnt a very good card the performance was poor compared to Fury which they replaced and no better that 290X. Also they were plagued with problems like you are having I dont see you getting this one sorted. Think I'd be better off with a Fury installed in there then? I just don't get it, my other B450 board runs with the RX580's just fine. It's just my friend's B450 and this newly aquired B350 that the cards don't work with. I built this rig specifically to put a 580 to use with...... -_-
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 6, 2022 14:56:29 GMT -5
Sigh, I found a seller that's giving me a deal I can't pass up on. FuryX, Vega64, and tossing in a free 7950 for $300. All cards are fully functional, he says the Fury doesn't like 165Hz (not a problem), and one of the cards is missing a sticker on a fan......big deal. I'll be ordering replacement fans (eventually) for all of the GPU's anyway. The good news with this, it means my GPU collection will be 100%. I'll have a Radeon 8500, 9800XT, X800 Pro, X1950 Pro, HD2900XT, HD3870, HD4890, HD5870, HD6970, HD7970 (and a spare 7950), R9 290x, FuryX, RX 580, Vega64, RX 5700XT, (skipping Radeon VII because so similar to 5700XT), and a 6900XT. The bad news, its $300 I don't have on hand in cash and I'd be hurting my house fund out of $300. Oh well. If it means my collection is 100% with all functioning cards, I'll be very happy. Now....I just hope that a FuryX will solve this stupid CSM bug on this B350 board. A Fury would actually have been my preferred card for the build anyway, I was just using the RX 580's because I had them and they're so similar to the Fury I didn't want to have to buy more cards. On another note, I have my spare GTX 960 in the B350 board for now and its properly functional. Hasn't had a single problem for days now since I swapped it back in. Rig is temporarily in use in my kiddo's room since I killed his B450 board, his replacement board arrives Monday. But he wanted to play games this weekend.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 12, 2022 17:05:55 GMT -5
I got busy and put together the T-Bird last night. It works! I do need to paint my CF reader and bay adapter, the sharp black and white look really off with the beige of the Antec branded Chieftec Dragon. I've got Windows 98SE Plus! installed on it right now, was going to put XP on there for testing, but I couldn't get it to boot off USB for older OS. My 2000 Pro and XP CD's I had are destroyed, but luckily my 98SE disc worked fine. I need to figure out how I can post pictures on here more, I've already reached the image allowance according to the forum. I do think I'll be removing the 160GB HDD and Ultra ATA133 PCI card out of here, I just don't think I need that kind of space on it. The CF card alone should be enough it looks like.
Specs: AMD Thunderbird K7 1100MHz 2x512MB Corsair Value DDR400 @ 133Mhz (currently only 1x512 for Win98) Antec PP-352X 350w PSU ATI Radeon 9800XT SoundBlaster Live! 5.1 sound card TP Link Gigabit LAN Adaptec Ultra ATA133 controller 16x DVD-ROM 48x16x48 CDRW Compact Flash Reader (will be painted, don't worry) Iomega ZIP250 Floppy Disk Seagate 160GB IDE Hard Drive Fully Restored Beige Chieftec Dragon case (Antec branded)
I was even SLIGHTLY prepared ahead of time, without my prior knowledge even, on putting things on here. Since the LAN card works fine (with the driver of course), I can use IE5 or 6 and access my NAS just fine over FTP. So its easy peasy to transfer files to and from it. I am having sound card issues still with it, but I suspect I'm doing something wrong, being too impatient, or perhaps I've got a couple older dead sound cards (always possible).
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 12, 2022 18:31:59 GMT -5
Image allowance was only temporary. Post away.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 12, 2022 20:57:40 GMT -5
Image allowance was only temporary. Post away. Roger that!
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 16, 2022 2:46:12 GMT -5
Got some painting done on the CF reader today. Also I figured out my kiddo's Ryzen 2600 rig. CPU was dead, and somehow the RAM. Not entirely sure how I managed that, but whatever. Still fighting DX titles on the beigebox, still probably needing to regrease the AGP GPU's. But hey, its working!
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Post by cssorkinman on Aug 19, 2022 0:15:45 GMT -5
Cool project. I've sort of unintentionally done the same thing over the last 30 years.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 19, 2022 1:32:00 GMT -5
Cool project. I've sort of unintentionally done the same thing over the last 30 years. I think I recognize your SN from OCN years ago...... thank you! Update: The Ryzen 1400 build is complete-ish. It's missing a 6TB HDD for games (got 2x 500GB laptop drives in it now). But otherwise, its done! Fury-X came in today, and it runs fantastically. Honestly forgot I even ordered the thing, but whatever. (The original ebay seller I was talking with flaked out on me) My paypal credit is going to hate me lately........ Still kinda upset about the RX 580's not working in basically ANY stupid rig that would be appropriate for them, but whatever. I'll find a use for them, or sell them or something. Anybody want to send an offer? I've got 5 of them. Bwahahaha. No, but seriously, I'm happy I have them on hand anyway. Never hurts to have spare GPU's laying around. Maybe I'll see if I can use them for transcoding on my server or something, and plop a couple in with the various Intel builds I have laying on shelves or something. Anyway, other than the missing HDD, this is the final form of the Ryzen 1400 build. Kiddo's got it in his room right now. Once his rig is 100% again (or for the first time?), I'll be putting this build in my bedroom on my 70" 4k TV for some controller gaming. I think it'll do a fine job. Waiting on RAM and a Vega64 to complete kiddo's normal build with the Ryzen 2600x in it. Since I finally sorted that out, its ready to be re-deployed once those parts come in. Working with Corsair to RMA the RAM, and I have a Vega on order already (well 2 so I have a spare just in case). Forum member offered me a killer deal on those I couldn't pass up. Gotta finish the GPU collection afterall.
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Post by Bones on Aug 19, 2022 2:09:15 GMT -5
Yeah, that's Corky - Yo, Corky!
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Post by cssorkinman on Aug 20, 2022 11:19:41 GMT -5
Yeah, that's Corky - Yo, Corky! Yup, still around - thanks for the greeting! The site is pretty much a repository of people I respect the most in this hobby - nice to see so many of you .
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 20, 2022 16:06:10 GMT -5
The site is pretty much a repository of people I respect the most in this hobby - nice to see so many of you . Glad to see you finally join us. Don't be a stranger.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 20, 2022 16:10:23 GMT -5
Yep welcome aboard.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 20, 2022 23:32:25 GMT -5
Yeah, that's Corky - Yo, Corky! Yup, still around - thanks for the greeting! The site is pretty much a repository of people I respect the most in this hobby - nice to see so many of you . Places like this are exactly why I'm back into somewhat active status again. Because they're filled with the people I actually respect in the hobby, as you mentioned. Welcome aboard man! Just got a box of goodies in with a HUGE thank you to Mr.Scott! I won't divuldge too much information as of yet, but he definitely sent enough stuff to REALLY help out a ton with the Socket 754 and Athlon-XP builds. I still think I'm going to need to fix up these AGP GPU's, get them re-greased and re-padded. I think I'd rather have functional GPU's on hand first as I already have one AGP rig that's fully working.....before I start diving into building these other 3. I do have dang near probably 99% of the parts on hand though, and most if not all should be working. So not too much longer now and my collection will be complete, and I can create a thread to showcase everything.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 21, 2022 22:09:40 GMT -5
So I've been tinkering with the CSM settings for the last full day. I think right now I have CSM enabled and UEFI options only set. It lasted about 16 hours before it crashed this time, but alas, still crashed. -_- I've tried CSM / Legacy only set (when it was crashing fairly quickly). I tried disabling CSM, no change. I don't get it. The cards are stable, and the board is stable with an Nvidia card. I could try updating the VBIOS, but I don't even know where to start on that. The last one I tried to do it to, I bricked the stupid thing. You can ask me on vbios updates, I will say though Vbios updates are for gf GTX1000 or older or Radeon Navi 1 or older. Bios mods have been killed after GTX900 and RX 500
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 22, 2022 3:44:54 GMT -5
So I've been tinkering with the CSM settings for the last full day. I think right now I have CSM enabled and UEFI options only set. It lasted about 16 hours before it crashed this time, but alas, still crashed. -_- I've tried CSM / Legacy only set (when it was crashing fairly quickly). I tried disabling CSM, no change. I don't get it. The cards are stable, and the board is stable with an Nvidia card. I could try updating the VBIOS, but I don't even know where to start on that. The last one I tried to do it to, I bricked the stupid thing. You can ask me on vbios updates, I will say though Vbios updates are for gf GTX1000 or older or Radeon Navi 1 or older. Bios mods have been killed after GTX900 and RX 500 Yeah, its the RX 580 8GB cards and B450 / B350 motherboards that keep giving me issues. The 580's are fine. The boards are fine. They just don't work together, and SUPPOSEDLY its some sort of a CSM bug between the two. I gave up and bought a Fury-X for that setup though lol. The RX 580's are now retired on the shelf. I still have to find a solution for my friend's rig that's exhibiting the same symptoms, but she's not too worried about it if it means buying a new GPU. I don't blame here there.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 22, 2022 6:57:56 GMT -5
You can ask me on vbios updates, I will say though Vbios updates are for gf GTX1000 or older or Radeon Navi 1 or older. Bios mods have been killed after GTX900 and RX 500 Yeah, its the RX 580 8GB cards and B450 / B350 motherboards that keep giving me issues. The 580's are fine. The boards are fine. They just don't work together, and SUPPOSEDLY its some sort of a CSM bug between the two. I gave up and bought a Fury-X for that setup though lol. The RX 580's are now retired on the shelf. I still have to find a solution for my friend's rig that's exhibiting the same symptoms, but she's not too worried about it if it means buying a new GPU. I don't blame here there. Well we can try the 580s in a known compatible board for data gathering.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 22, 2022 7:14:53 GMT -5
Yeah, its the RX 580 8GB cards and B450 / B350 motherboards that keep giving me issues. The 580's are fine. The boards are fine. They just don't work together, and SUPPOSEDLY its some sort of a CSM bug between the two. I gave up and bought a Fury-X for that setup though lol. The RX 580's are now retired on the shelf. I still have to find a solution for my friend's rig that's exhibiting the same symptoms, but she's not too worried about it if it means buying a new GPU. I don't blame here there. Well we can try the 580s in a known compatible board for data gathering. I just ran a pair of them tonight in crossfire for hwbot team competitions. Worked fine. All 4 are 8GB RX580 model cards. I know my MSI Armor OC card needs a BIOS reflash as I broke it trying to flash the mining BIOS off it. It does work, and its probably my best 580 I have, but yeah, busted via BIOS flash and I'm too lazy to fix it. My MSI Gaming card is stable up to 1450 core and is on the proper "stock" BIOS. That card doesn't work in the B450 or B350 boards, but works fine in my 990FX or older. And my pair of Asus Dual X cards work fine, but they also need stock BIOS's put back on them (cards I used tonight), but they didn't work in the B450 or B350 boards either. They were on the 990FX board for the competition. The mining BIOS I put on them is just a manual fan speed and lower power limit, so really shouldn't have been anything too difficult in terms of motherboard compatibility. -_-
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 22, 2022 17:55:17 GMT -5
Well the mining bios are typically non uefi, anyways I hate to say it but grab a snapshot of GPU-Z and go to the Advanced Tab and click on the chevron next to General and change to Memory Timings and get a snapshot there. Also a picture of the white stickers (blur out the serial numbers).
I've helped Shrimp Brime and freeagent find bios for their 980s even.
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Post by Bones on Aug 22, 2022 18:12:57 GMT -5
You certainly have. Pio - If you need help in this way, this is the guy you'd want to ask for.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 22, 2022 18:21:03 GMT -5
Well the mining bios are typically non uefi, anyways I hate to say it but grab a snapshot of GPU-Z and go to the Advanced Tab and click on the chevron next to General and change to Memory Timings and get a snapshot there. Also a picture of the white stickers (blur out the serial numbers). I've helped Shrimp Brime and freeagent find bios for their 980s even. Yessir and your really good at finding them too. Never had a problem, my go to GPU bios guy right here!
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Post by freeagent on Aug 22, 2022 19:40:34 GMT -5
Well the mining bios are typically non uefi, anyways I hate to say it but grab a snapshot of GPU-Z and go to the Advanced Tab and click on the chevron next to General and change to Memory Timings and get a snapshot there. Also a picture of the white stickers (blur out the serial numbers). I've helped Shrimp Brime and freeagent find bios for their 980s even. Yessir and your really good at finding them too. Never had a problem, my go to GPU bios guy right here! Yup, he is an awesome guy! This thread is full of awesome too!
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 22, 2022 19:47:22 GMT -5
Yessir and your really good at finding them too. Never had a problem, my go to GPU bios guy right here! Yup, he is an awesome guy! This thread is full of awesome too! And a little more just stepped in!!! New name, Awesome Eddie!!
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Post by pioneerisloud on Aug 22, 2022 23:22:19 GMT -5
Well the mining bios are typically non uefi, anyways I hate to say it but grab a snapshot of GPU-Z and go to the Advanced Tab and click on the chevron next to General and change to Memory Timings and get a snapshot there. Also a picture of the white stickers (blur out the serial numbers). I've helped Shrimp Brime and freeagent find bios for their 980s even. I've got backups saved for my Asus cards, and unless there's some magical fix for the CSM bug, I've given up hope on those cards ever working on a B350 or B450 board lol. You might want to let Mr.Scott know though, he's getting my MSI Armor OC RX580 8GB card for his kiddo / Minecraft build. I don't feel like messing with it anymore, I've "bricked" it twice with trying to fix the BIOS on that one. The card DOES work fine, if I could ever figure out the right BIOS for it. Right now its got no display because wrong BIOS again. My other MSI card is on a factory BIOS and it still doesn't work in those boards, but it is stable at decent overclocks, so whatever, I'll live with it being a spare GPU. The Asus cards....well they're a spare crossfire solution if I ever get bored, even if they're on "mining" BIOS's. Whatever, they can be on the shelf.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 23, 2022 13:03:18 GMT -5
Well the mining bios are typically non uefi, anyways I hate to say it but grab a snapshot of GPU-Z and go to the Advanced Tab and click on the chevron next to General and change to Memory Timings and get a snapshot there. Also a picture of the white stickers (blur out the serial numbers). I've helped Shrimp Brime and freeagent find bios for their 980s even. I've got backups saved for my Asus cards, and unless there's some magical fix for the CSM bug, I've given up hope on those cards ever working on a B350 or B450 board lol. You might want to let Mr.Scott know though, he's getting my MSI Armor OC RX580 8GB card for his kiddo / Minecraft build. I don't feel like messing with it anymore, I've "bricked" it twice with trying to fix the BIOS on that one. The card DOES work fine, if I could ever figure out the right BIOS for it. Right now its got no display because wrong BIOS again. My other MSI card is on a factory BIOS and it still doesn't work in those boards, but it is stable at decent overclocks, so whatever, I'll live with it being a spare GPU. The Asus cards....well they're a spare crossfire solution if I ever get bored, even if they're on "mining" BIOS's. Whatever, they can be on the shelf. I usually take info gathered and find a newer bios.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 23, 2022 15:25:06 GMT -5
If I get in trouble, I will be in touch for sure. You're the man.
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Post by eidairman1 on Aug 23, 2022 21:59:09 GMT -5
If I get in trouble, I will be in touch for sure. You're the man. Considering Legit Cards have a 99% success rate of having a flash work(with all info requested), and about 60-70% of fake cards do (some are just so buggered up)
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