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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 24, 2019 22:03:53 GMT -5
Well so far my Ryzen experiences have been rather enjoyable to say the least. But Have been working with this Athlon 200GE for a couple of weeks now and just not getting satisfied numbers at all. It clocks very super low in comparison to the other three Ryzen based chips. But it's does well at this clock, just been spoiled with other chips running well at 4ghz ++ stability tested. That would include another Athlon 220GE which clocked very well even on air cooling. 1300 and 2700x bot also can run a 4ghz frequency without issue. Been contemplating getting another Athlon 200GE while they are dirt cheap at 50 bucks US. Don't get me wrong, at 50$ and 3.8Ghz stable it still packs a mean punch. But I'd like to be benching in the 4300Mhz range on air instead like the other three chips. I did take into factor memory speeds and Cpu SOC voltage. But these Athlon IMCs are not good for me at all. At least not on a B450M-A motherboard. So I would up using 1.6250 V-core to stabilize 3.9Ghz - 4Ghz enough for benchmarking. It's been a nightmare eating up tons of voltage. I've encountered a few blue screens as a result of low voltage and where about maxed on what a heatpipe stock 2700x cooler can handle. Temps around 68c which is too high. With SMT turned off, it will do up towards 4.1Ghz benching a single PiMod for example. So here's a screeny. It's not a very good chip. I bet some one with a better board and cooling (LN2) could get more out of this one.  |
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Post by Bones on Apr 25, 2019 9:24:51 GMT -5
Just a smaller version of Ryzen - Doesn't look to be that bad.
Like you said it's cheap, I woudn't expect alot from it myself so just bench it and have some fun.
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Post by george on Apr 25, 2019 11:27:49 GMT -5
I see in your screeny there is a GTX770 in the setup. Does it clock any different when using Vega only (ie without the GTX770 in the bench)?
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 25, 2019 11:42:21 GMT -5
I see in your screeny there is a GTX770 in the setup. Does it clock any different when using Vega only (ie without the GTX770 in the bench)? Nahh, it clocks the same on the vega graphics. I wont bench the IGP with this 200GE. I'd be better off to use the 220GE as it clocks a few hundred Mhz higher and has the same Igp. Was looking at the 240GE, but its a little higher in price, but would be the way to go benching the Vega Igp graphics Imo.... So long as it clocks up well. |
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Post by Bones on Apr 14, 2020 16:28:15 GMT -5
Doing a bit of a necro here for good reason.
Just bought a 220GE and once it's in I'll let you guys know how it does. Plan is to swap out the 2700X and pop this in the daily and save some $$ on the powerbill.
Should make a nice difference going from 105W to just 35W on the chip in use.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Apr 14, 2020 16:49:38 GMT -5
Doing a bit of a necro here for good reason. Just bought a 220GE and once it's in I'll let you guys know how it does. Plan is to swap out the 2700X and pop this in the daily and save some $$ on the powerbill. Should make a nice difference going from 105W to just 35W on the chip in use. Oh heck, I wish I knew you where doing something like that........ I'd just sent you the damn thing. It sits.... somewhere, where ever I placed it lol. Also, I could have told you my 2700x Passive cooling settings. 16 threads, 50w loaded. Ah well, can't wait to see some results either way.  |
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Post by cbjaust on Apr 14, 2020 23:34:01 GMT -5
Latest BIOS for my C6H has my Athlon 200GE fully unlocked (both core and DRAM ratios all available). On a earlier BIOS the core multi was unlocked but the RAM was restricted to the maximum supported (2666MT/s) ratio. Good luck with it Rod.
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Post by Bones on Apr 19, 2020 0:37:51 GMT -5
So far the only issue I've had is USB support in Win 7. It's crazy that I can make it work with the 2700x but not with this chip. The chip I'm using now is rather old by date too (1909) for a second gen AM4 based chip and it should work like the 2700x does. Loaded up Ubuntu and posting with it right now and all is working. Anyway, I'll mess around with it, see about solving the USB/Win 7 issue and check back.
EDIT: Got pissed off and went as far as to install it in the little Giga A320-M board I had gotten for parts because it supposedly didn't work.
I was having an issue at first with it but clearing the BIOS got it going again and now I'm posting with it in Ubuntu. 
Here's the funny part of it - The system with this chip in this board is actually snappy but while it was in the X470 using the Rad VII it seemed to drag a little.
It's running well with the onboard graphics, looks good.
Maybe it likes it this way, I dunno but it's working and will use it like this for a little while.
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Post by cbjaust on Apr 19, 2020 9:49:18 GMT -5
220GE is Raven Ridge first generation Zen silicon. You may have to add the hardware ID of the USB controller that the drivers are not installing to the appropriate .inf file to get the USB working.
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Post by Bones on Apr 19, 2020 12:52:11 GMT -5
I thought it was second gen, seriously.
It's still OK, it's a low powered daily which is what I was shooting for anyway.
For the cost of the chip, plus the apparent steal of a deal I got with the board it's all good.
I'll have to look into the hardware ID's - May need to ask a few questions about all that - I'm not a programmer/software guy to really know much about such in general.
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Post by Bones on May 15, 2020 15:44:30 GMT -5
I'll admit it - I finally got tired of getting by with the setup. Not that the chip and board wasn't capable but the OS choices I had are VERY limited and I'm not going Spy10 for anything or anyone.
I placed the X470 and 2700x back in and turns out the 2700x could be dying - I don't know why but it's acting like it and the board is indicating it by the system crashing and the board will then start blinking "00" on it's code readout.
I'll revist the 2700 later.
The chip I'm using now arrived with perfect timing and it's a Ryzen 3 1200 - You know, bottom of the barrel for the Ryzen line out of all yet it doesn't act like it.
So far it's been snappy, running cool and so on. Time will tell if this is a perfect fit for my daily use but it's looking good right now.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 15, 2020 23:03:20 GMT -5
I'll admit it - I finally got tired of getting by with the setup. Not that the chip and board wasn't capable but the OS choices I had are VERY limited and I'm not going Spy10 for anything or anyone. I placed the X470 and 2700x back in and turns out the 2700x could be dying - I don't know why but it's acting like it and the board is indicating it by the system crashing and the board will then start blinking "00" on it's code readout. I'll revist the 2700 later. The chip I'm using now arrived with perfect timing and it's a Ryzen 3 1200 - You know, bottom of the barrel for the Ryzen line out of all yet it doesn't act like it. So far it's been snappy, running cool and so on. Time will tell if this is a perfect fit for my daily use but it's looking good right now. I found the 1200 to fall a little short in the thread count and could have been slightly higher clocked too. Not a bad little quad core. More than enough for most simple desktop systems. Shame on your 2700x. I never took mine to 1.60v and up. I hit 1.58v and that was all the balls I had for it. Pretty sure that would be an ambient or even above freezing limit. Put mine on the bench just now in fact. Wrapped Burney up with all the gear to fire it up again next time. Still in the box a 1600+ which I got to just over 1.8ghz, but for some reason all my Cpu-z files where reporting back as corrupted. Ah well I OCed about 4 processors on it the last month or so. Flashed the bios one good time after I had finally got the board up and running. I did a longer cmos reset and it fired right up. Turned out the bios didn't like all the restarts from the waterblock mounting being off a little bit. Which is ok, I got Burney running really nice and smooth. No issues, fires right up. Had running all the dividers work good. A nice spot on the 1600+ for a daily cruiser would have been dead on 166 bus clocks opposed to the 133. Ran great at this speed, didn't need much of a v-core bump to get there. The Max temp on any of the Cpus hit only 33c at 2.200v, I think the chipset ran slightly higher around 40-42c depending on the length of the load. That's a good board Rodney. I'll take care of it for a long time. I have it wrapped as tight as you sent it to me. IDE Drive fit in the accessory box, so it will have an OS ready to go in the future. It's W7, but it's all set up. I just didn't get the time to run XP on it like I really wanted to. But next time maybe. Anyhow, I was truly only hitting cpu limits. Most of them just a hang up or to black screen no restart. More voltage, get a FSB or two from it and topped out. |
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Post by Bones on May 16, 2020 2:09:21 GMT -5
See - I told ya Burnee was a good one.
As for the 2700x I have some testing to do with it to confirm it's status because there could be something else going on with it.
The chip had been running as my daily without issue all along before I got the 220GE to sub out for it and all I did with the 2700 was to take it out of the board and place it in the clamshell of the 220GE - That's it.
Hadn't been touched until last night when I was setting this back up and it just immmediately started with the 00 crap.
I tested the board with the 3600x and then the 1200, it acts fine with both of those and the 1200 is what I'm running now in it.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 16, 2020 11:01:42 GMT -5
Code 00? Thats an open code isnt it?
Quite odd, it just hangs up it??
Maybe just need/ed a good reseat?
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Post by Bones on May 16, 2020 13:50:25 GMT -5
It literally blinks 00 non-stop once it crashes.
I looked it up and it's a CPU problem code. I will be testing it in another board soon to confirm it's problem but I do know the board is doing fine with the other CPU's I tried it with - No crashing or whatever else.
Already tried a reseat and what else with it, didn't make any difference.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 16, 2020 14:03:24 GMT -5
It literally blinks 00 non-stop once it crashes. I looked it up and it's a CPU problem code. I will be testing it in another board soon to confirm it's problem but I do know the board is doing fine with the other CPU's I tried it with - No crashing or whatever else. Already tried a reseat and what else with it, didn't make any difference. Wow wonder what could have happened to it? Maybe it was just a bad seating? (I dunno I'm reaching.) |
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Post by Bones on May 16, 2020 16:14:37 GMT -5
Believe me, you're not the only one reaching.
I will figure out what's up before long, doesn't make sense for it to start acting up for no apparent reason. Sure, I've OC'ed it a few times here and there but it's mostly been ran at or even below stock and was acting perfectly before I swapped it out for the 220GE.
Only after I set it back in is when it all started, the CPU as said was kept in a clamshell the whole time I had it stored so it wasn't just sitting out in the open.
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Post by cbjaust on May 16, 2020 17:20:14 GMT -5
That's super weird Rodney. You'd reckon if the board supports the 3600X and the 1200 that it would support the 220G. 00 is definately (I think hehe  ) unsupported CPU. Maybe it needs an earlier BIOS; perhaps they took out support (or never put it in) for the Athlons due to bios space limitations. |
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Post by Bones on May 16, 2020 17:31:06 GMT -5
It's the 2700x, not the 220GE that's acting up.
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Post by cbjaust on May 16, 2020 17:33:26 GMT -5
Oh bugger. Sounds like you need to gather the evidence that the CPU is indeed the culprit and send it back for a replacement. it wouldn't be the first time a CPU has carked it for no good reason |
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Post by Bones on May 16, 2020 17:48:29 GMT -5
That's what I have in mind, it's just over a year old now and if it's gone South I'm gonna make them make it good.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 16, 2020 18:00:35 GMT -5
My first 1800X died for no real reason it had seen Nitrogen but had been running with a waterblock on it for a couple of days and it died 00 bought another board X370 prime but no it wasnt the board it was the CPU had no trouble with RMA direct from AMD
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Post by Bones on May 17, 2020 5:34:25 GMT -5
Finished testing it in my other board (x570 MEG ACE) and it did fine.
Dunno what's up (Yet) but I'll keep messing with it.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 17, 2020 17:18:53 GMT -5
Put it back in the board that it doesnt work and push on the edge of the CPU with your thumb in the direction the socket moves as you close it.
It can only be the pins not making good contact in the socket especially seeing as it used to work in the board before.
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Post by Bones on May 18, 2020 0:15:38 GMT -5
I agree, it has to be that or something similar to it.
The chip right now is working just fine.
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) unsupported CPU. Maybe it needs an earlier BIOS; perhaps they took out support (or never put it in) for the Athlons due to bios space limitations.
