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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 23, 2018 20:12:08 GMT -5
Would a work station GPU be better for folding at home? Perhaps a Quadro 5000 or 6000 series? Would this be equivalent to GTX Titan near the same generation?
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 23, 2018 20:18:00 GMT -5
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Post by Vinster on Dec 23, 2018 20:28:13 GMT -5
apparently it would be a waste... seems the Quadro's excel at double precision. but that's not what is used for folding...
Vin
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Post by ozz on Dec 23, 2018 21:12:00 GMT -5
i have 3-4 quadros here , my understanding is they are extremely good at , how do i put it, complicated graphics like medical imaging, complicated graphics designs stuff , mine are the 4000,4500, think like a 8800, 9800 gtx era
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 23, 2018 21:16:58 GMT -5
If the Quadro had enough Cuda cores, it would be good at Folding. So looking at a minimum of like 1500 cuda cores and then we start making some points. At least that's what I gathered from reading Vins Link there. Thank you vin. I will refine my searches a bit.
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Post by ozz on Dec 23, 2018 21:26:02 GMT -5
pretty sure you can flash the bios and they will be the same as a gtx something, but no good for comps i read
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 23, 2018 23:03:21 GMT -5
pretty sure you can flash the bios and they will be the same as a gtx something, but no good for comps i read
I'm looking for decent points for the dollars more or less. I don't need it to be a GTX gaming card really...
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Post by ozz on Dec 23, 2018 23:10:22 GMT -5
pretty sure you can flash the bios and they will be the same as a gtx something, but no good for comps i read
I'm looking for decent points for the dollars more or less. I don't need it to be a GTX gaming card really... i wasnt saying that, nor talking about gaming, i dunno if its any good for folding as it is, but flashing it to a different bios just might make it good for it coz they cross reference to a gtx of whatever when the bios is flashed is what i understand
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Post by Vinster on Dec 23, 2018 23:23:13 GMT -5
I'd look for something with 2500+ shader cores. For example my r9-290x was good for between 250-400k ppd depending on what it was folding and it has 2816 shader cores. the 6000 you posted above has 448. a similar GPU is the 560Ti (448 cores)
Vin
EDIT: crap I keep eye balling the 2080Ti's at 2.5Mil PPD..... crap, crap, crap....
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Post by Bones on Dec 24, 2018 1:39:34 GMT -5
I'd look for something with 2500+ shader cores. For example my r9-290x was good for between 250-400k ppd depending on what it was folding and it has 2816 shader cores. the 6000 you posted above has 448. a similar GPU is the 560Ti (448 cores)
Vin
EDIT: crap I keep eye balling the 2080Ti's at 2.5Mil PPD..... crap, crap, crap....
Have that card model and it's not feasable for folding anymore as I found out when I started folding for the team here. The card I have coming is much better but still won't pull as many PPD as a 1080 would, a 2080 would probrably destroy what it can do in comparison BUT it's several steps up from the 560-448.
It's also funny to me it cost more to get than the OCF did, even the open box OCF's the egg had were going for close to the same price as I paid for this card BUT the 970's are fetching the $$'s on fleabay too so mine was a bargain if it works - And it should once I fix the known problem with it.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 24, 2018 11:56:51 GMT -5
OK I refined my search and came across a better idea.
How about Tesla K10 or K20X workstation cards? They have lots of cuda cores and don't even put up a display!!!
K10 has 2 GPUs and over 3000 cudas.. the K20X is some near 2500 cudas on a single GPU. Both looked reasonable in price range on flea-bay
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Post by Vinster on Dec 24, 2018 14:25:54 GMT -5
$95/ea? am I reading that right?
and no shipping to canada...
Vin
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Post by Vinster on Dec 24, 2018 14:30:44 GMT -5
and if you go that route... those are server components and don't have an active fan (rely on the server jets)
Vin
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Dec 24, 2018 16:13:38 GMT -5
Quadro cards can see good use with some BOINC projects, like MilkyWay@Home,where double precision is required, but I've not heard much "good" commentary about their ability to do Folding@Home.
Then again, I also didn't pay much attention to the Quadro lineup because of how expensive they almost always are..
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 24, 2018 18:05:07 GMT -5
Past the quadro cards and into the Tesla cards. Quadros don't have the cuda count we look for.
@ Vin thanks for the cooling tips. I may look into this a little more after the holidays.
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Post by Bones on Dec 24, 2018 23:27:37 GMT -5
Thought I had a good one but guess not.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 25, 2018 1:05:07 GMT -5
Dare to be dreaming, yes I'll take 2! *Drools all over current video card and shorts it out. face palmed.*
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Post by Vinster on Dec 25, 2018 3:31:49 GMT -5
Thought I had a good one but guess not.
used is still $4k... that's a bit nuts... I'd go for a RTX2080Ti first... hell... get 2...
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 25, 2018 7:00:35 GMT -5
You fellas are making this interesting. Modern Quadro cards are going to cost ya's. Quadro RTX is equal to RTX2080Ti Quadro GP 100 is equal to 1080Ti Quadro P6000 is equal to maxwell 1080 non Ti.
They have been making Tesla cards since G80 they are computational GPUs most dont have a display port beware what you buy there a late model one will cost an arm and a leg.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 25, 2018 13:00:27 GMT -5
Need Price affordability vs WU accomplished, It's hard to find a good balance. I just don't have another 300 bucks to shell out for a 1070 or bigger GPU.
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Dec 25, 2018 14:35:57 GMT -5
Need Price affordability vs WU accomplished, It's hard to find a good balance. I just don't have another 300 bucks to shell out for a 1070 or bigger GPU. The 1050 Ti's have been considered to be one of the more bang for the buck kind of cards for the past little while.
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Post by Vinster on Dec 26, 2018 12:13:20 GMT -5
Need Price affordability vs WU accomplished, It's hard to find a good balance. I just don't have another 300 bucks to shell out for a 1070 or bigger GPU. The 1050 Ti's have been considered to be one of the more bang for the buck kind of cards for the past little while. Really? I read that they are only good for about 200k ppd? out here they are still going to $200+ used...
Vin
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Dec 26, 2018 12:34:36 GMT -5
The 1050 Ti's have been considered to be one of the more bang for the buck kind of cards for the past little while. Really? I read that they are only good for about 200k ppd? out here they are still going to $200+ used...
Vin
True they're still somewhat pricy, but the biggest benefit is PPD/watt. 200k PPD on 75-85 watts is pretty efficient. I might have been thinking from an efficiency standpoint then.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 26, 2018 13:01:37 GMT -5
Not a bad way to look at folding. Efficiency is important.
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Post by Vinster on Dec 26, 2018 13:31:38 GMT -5
can't argue that.
Vin
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Post by Bones on Dec 26, 2018 13:46:48 GMT -5
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Post by Vinster on Dec 26, 2018 16:35:37 GMT -5
^Keep in mind that the Titan Black is in the 700 series GPU's and the points would be in that realm.. GTX780/Titan Black are good for about 200k ppd.
Vin
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Post by Bones on Dec 26, 2018 18:20:58 GMT -5
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 26, 2018 18:36:17 GMT -5
I did fold on my GTX 770 in the HTPC and did not follow the PPD output at all. I do know that the rig is located under the thermostat on the wall and was seeing 84f while the rest of the house was cold haha. The rig may have used some energy folding but also saved some bumping my stat reading that high and the furnace wouldn't kick on lol. So I shut that rig down. May pull it out and slap it in the Ryzen box and figure out something for the HTPC> It does need to game though....
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Post by Vinster on Dec 26, 2018 18:49:15 GMT -5
I did fold on my GTX 770 in the HTPC and did not follow the PPD output at all. was it higher or lower?
Vin
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