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Post by ozz on Jun 2, 2016 21:50:08 GMT -5
i keep getting this greeny brown junk in my water block that inhibits flow, when the water flow from the discgarge outlet doesnt hit the other side of the res i know the block is got this junk in it, it has to be junk in the tap water that goes into the ice when i freeze it, im thinkin of ringing the water dept in the council to ask why i keep getting it, and ive just had a new water meter fitted outside too that have filters in the water meter, any ideas boys ? i know its pretty hard to see but its me first go at resizing to fit the pic in, its colour is makin me think something in the water is reacting to the copper block and causing this mossy type hairy stuff, ive had it apart that many times now ive worn the threads out and have had to put screws with nuts on top of the water block to keep it a sealed unit   |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 2, 2016 23:47:28 GMT -5
Its in the water supply there isnt much you can do about that but you could try straining the water with Coffee filters it might help. Thats a lesson we have to do resize photos.  |
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Post by ozz on Jun 2, 2016 23:55:38 GMT -5
Its in the water supply there isnt much you can do about that but you could try straining the water with Coffee filters it might help. Thats a lesson we have to do resize photos. mmm never thought about that , i dont have coffee filters, mines just instant international roast coffee lol, so im guessin you mean filter the water from the tap first, ive put it in a container and i cant see anything in there, many times yeah i know man, i thought id have a go at resizing lol, least i got it up there, i couldnt b4 |
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Post by Vinster on Jun 3, 2016 7:18:39 GMT -5
I'd say you have hard water, and the minerals that are in there are reacting to the copper. then that starts the corrode with the minerals in the water and everything just starts sticking to it...
Stop using the tap water and start using distilled/De-Mineralized water... Run it with some CLR, Rinse, then run it with a cap full of bleach and flush the hell out of it...
If you want to keep using tap water, then go to the auto store and get those throw away fuel filers, put it in your loop.... or go all out and get an inline water filter and add that to your loop, with that you could drop a magnet in it, that'll help catch/hold that.
Vin
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Post by ozz on Jun 3, 2016 7:40:23 GMT -5
I'd say you have hard water, and the minerals that are in there are reacting to the copper. then that starts the corrode with the minerals in the water and everything just starts sticking to it... Stop using the tap water and start using distilled/De-Mineralized water... Run it with some CLR, Rinse, then run it with a cap full of bleach and flush the hell out of it... If you want to keep using tap water, then go to the auto store and get those throw away fuel filers, put it in your loop.... or go all out and get an inline water filter and add that to your loop, with that you could drop a magnet in it, that'll help catch/hold that. Vin ok vinnie , thx, what i been tryin to do is recycle the water when the ice melts in the res, i drain it from the res then refill the containers to freeze again to try to stop the water usage but this now is gettin out of hand, 3 days ago i cleaned it now again today coz of low water flow, and of course the cpu and board heats up more and = less performance and scores, also anything in the loop can reduce flow but certainly will try , the junk seems like a hairy mossy growth type of stuff |
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Post by cjgdsgrc50 on Jun 3, 2016 8:53:45 GMT -5
Hey Ozz,
I run straight windshield washer fluid in my system. It is good down to -30c and works great. No build up or growths at all although I occasionally drain and fill it just to be safe. Not sure how it would work with bottles filled with ice in it but you should look into converting an old a/c into a chiller like I did. I am sure Pete could help with it and it makes it so much easier to bench. Less maintenance and should get you even colder than you are now.
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Post by ozz on Jun 3, 2016 9:19:07 GMT -5
hey ya chris, thx man, yeah i used to run antifreeze in the system when i was using the radiator, but now its just straight from the res to the water block and returned to the res, the ice keeps the cpu cool with fans on everything from a seperate psu set up, as the ice melts i drain and refill it to refreeze it, i used to use methylated spirits in the water, that gets it down a couple more degrees but useless to refreeze, the water just wont freeze properly to reuse, goes like a frosty cone ice lol, im looking for another system like an old air con, but i want 2 hp motor or better with a big cooler to make a new system into a SS or phase change set up, just about over makin ice over again and again lol
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Post by Vinster on Jun 4, 2016 7:07:38 GMT -5
look into converting an old a/c into a chiller like I did. I've been keeping an eye out for one myself for this very reason. Vin |
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Post by ozz on Jul 5, 2016 3:30:52 GMT -5
ill put this in here instead of making a new thread anyone got a EK Supremacy EVO white edition water block on either amd or intel system,  im setting up the maximus V1 hero, or trying to  ..... and if so have you had trouble with discharge flow being so low that its scary to the point of thinking its dangerous, changed pumps and it starts up good discharge then backs right off to next to nothing, its been apart a dozen times, i removed the jet plate to no better performance, im thinking now its either the plastic insert or the plastic block itself, im doubting the way it is now id be getting 1 litre discharge a minute |
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Post by ozz on Jul 5, 2016 5:27:55 GMT -5
i tried everything, i cant get anymore flow out of this block, so i fixed it good and proper, i took the whole guts out of it and now have full discharge flow, probably too much
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 5, 2016 5:38:35 GMT -5
Shane you dont think there could be junk in the barb that outlets in your container.
When I was watching the block when you were turning it on this arvo the water was flying in the block and out I could see it where the hoses were on the block where the insulation was pulled back.
Try it without the insert and use another hose for you return and just put it in the top of the reservoir.
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Post by ozz on Jul 5, 2016 6:08:23 GMT -5
nah pete it was the guts in the block stopping flow, i had good flow with the other pump this arvo with the dfi working for reference clock, might see if i can a more detailed instruction pics to show exactly how things are supposed to go, im wondering now if this is the reason why the guy sold it...he mightnt have been able to work the issue with it out either lol
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Post by Vinster on Jul 5, 2016 7:02:24 GMT -5
I have an EK Supremacy EVO Copper edition ( www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-supremacy-evo-full-copper-original-csq) and can't say I had that issue per-say. I have had flow issue and some crud developing in my water that I can't understand. (Distilled + 10% Prestone Mix + Silver Coil). Looked like my pump failed. so installed a new pump and things seem fine again. But my old pump works again after taking it apart and cleaning it  . Im using it in my benching loop (last set of photo's I posted) and I have had zero issues with it [scratches head] I'll be taking my main rig apart soon for the team cup to move my 980x in the benching rig, I plan on taking the block apart then and having a look inside then (in 2-3 weeks). If I see anything odd, I'll post it up. Vin |
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Post by ozz on Jul 5, 2016 7:21:20 GMT -5
yeah thx vinnie i dunno where my gunk is comin from either, dont know why i have flow issues with this water block with the guts in it as well and i tried different jets and the other plastic bits in there with the same result, i have this on paper that came with the block, i want to strip down my danger den pump to check and clean out but i have a screw head problem thats proving to be a real b.itch to remove so i drilled the head off the screw but seems it doesnt want to come apart to easily, so now i have the phobya DC12-400 hooked up now and its pumping like no tomorrow, actually i think its too much flow , supposed to do 800 litres an hour www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109800171.pdf |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 5, 2016 9:08:21 GMT -5
Vin you run a D5 pump with your supremacy?
I use a D5 vario flat out with mine and have no problems with flow.
I have to say Shane that had me buggered today I dont know why that had no flow it should of.
They are a restrictive block but it should of been a lot better than that and there was nothing wrong with the way it went together the plastic center was in the right way.
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Post by ozz on Jul 5, 2016 9:25:44 GMT -5
yeah i know pete i looked at it i dunno how many times, and with the plastic centre ...its design structure only allows it to go in 1 way, the right way, its like the holes in it arent big enough to allow enough water through it
4.1) Remove the default Insert I1 and replace it with Insert I2, depending on your CPU platform. It is mandatory to install the Insert Pin and Insert in correct way, there is only one way to install it.
You will feel the Insert assembly locking into the position when placed correctly to the water block
D5 pumps are supposed to up to 1500 litres per hour, this phobya i have now does up to 800 , but it still should be enough
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Post by Vinster on Jul 5, 2016 13:00:16 GMT -5
I have a MCP655 variable unit (I think it's a D5 Vario family), my older unit was a -B unit so there was no speed adjustment so I had no flow control.
Currently in my main rig I have it set to 3, I'm happy with the performance, but I also have not gone crazy on loading up the system and going through all 5 speeds to see which flow rate cools best.
Vin
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Post by ozz on Jul 6, 2016 17:47:33 GMT -5
pete i took that ek supremacy block off and modded the one i showed you when you were here, id like you to try it on your pump with the guts back in it which it is now, but i put the 1150 insert and jet back in it and if it works ok then we know this pump hasnt got the guts to push the water through the block inserts and jets, coz its like its fine when the pump first pumps into it then as the back pressure builds in the block the pump drops off pressure because it hasnt the balls to be able to keep the pressure through the block to get a decent discharge
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im setting up the maximus V1 hero, or trying to 
..... and if so have you had trouble with discharge flow being so low that its scary to the point of thinking its dangerous, changed pumps and it starts up good discharge then backs right off to next to nothing, its been apart a dozen times, i removed the jet plate to no better performance, im thinking now its either the plastic insert or the plastic block itself, im doubting the way it is now id be getting 1 litre discharge a minute 
. Im using it in my benching loop (last set of photo's I posted) and I have had zero issues with it [scratches head] 
