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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 28, 2018 20:14:06 GMT -5
I wish I could get a 1070. That's a mean ass card Eddie. Pete, you don't like my 8 core scoring? Do I have to run SMT? It won't run 16 threads I keep trying without any luck. Memory stock memory overclocked. 3.2ghz cpu speeds 4.2ghz cpu speeds.... none of it lets it run all threads. But Alas, I'm not opposed to trying a few more times and see if I can catch the flaw here. Jon its not that I dont like your CPU score but SMP is something that these processors excel at it works a lot better than intels HT. My Vantage CPU score is 58000 yours is 43000 similar to my 7700k CPU score if SMP was working your CPU score would be up with mine and your overall score would be a lot better. I only say what is clearly visble and what will improve your score. It looks like you are onto it with that error message.
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Post by cbjaust on Dec 28, 2018 22:03:16 GMT -5
It's got to be either the Memory or the CPU overclock
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 28, 2018 22:19:46 GMT -5
It's got to be either the Memory or the CPU overclock That error come from a stock set defaults in bios. No overclocking was given to either cpu or memory. However I can turn the SMT/P off and the benchmark runs fine with or without an overclock. I do not think my issue is hardware related. imo
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 28, 2018 22:43:24 GMT -5
OK just did reset all defaults in bios. Now I get an error message. Bone stock. Everything is on Auto. And this is the first time I've seen this error also. That is a video driver error. Looked into this. Need to ditch the 391.35 display driver and run the most current 417.35 and see what happens. OK so newest driver acts the same. It bogs down when the OPS bar is supposed to pop up. Runs the cpu at 20% and just sits there. Funny part is that I'm the one that hits esc and aborts the benchmark. The bench usually just sits and uses a little cpu and nothing. Benchmark appears frozen in time, but actually still running according to task manager lol. I'm at a loss. Perhaps I will re-install windows soon and try all over again with this setup.
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Post by zila1 on Dec 28, 2018 23:11:12 GMT -5
You've got me curious as to what's up with that Jon.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 28, 2018 23:43:34 GMT -5
Gave up. Moved onto 3DMark06. This benchmark works A-OK!! No issues with number of threads Score at 34155 3DMarks Bone stock all. I'm gonna tweak and build on this a little for giggles.
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Post by cbjaust on Dec 29, 2018 5:45:07 GMT -5
It's got to be either the Memory or the CPU overclock That error come from a stock set defaults in bios. No overclocking was given to either cpu or memory. However I can turn the SMT/P off and the benchmark runs fine with or without an overclock. I do not think my issue is hardware related. imo I meant for when it hangs on the CPU test...
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 29, 2018 12:31:44 GMT -5
That error come from a stock set defaults in bios. No overclocking was given to either cpu or memory. However I can turn the SMT/P off and the benchmark runs fine with or without an overclock. I do not think my issue is hardware related. imo I meant for when it hangs on the CPU test... Should have been more clear, Im sorry. Cpu test it passes. Score Im not sure when it hangs up.... BUT it hangs up on the Physics test not the cpu test before it. Any CPU scores can be seen above on completed runs, not sure if it would be different with SMT enabled as the test gets aborted during the fail of the physics test.
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Post by Vinster on Dec 29, 2018 13:09:22 GMT -5
That is a video driver error. Looked into this. Need to ditch the 391.35 display driver and run the most current 417.35 and see what happens. OK so newest driver acts the same. It bogs down when the OPS bar is supposed to pop up. Runs the cpu at 20% and just sits there. Funny part is that I'm the one that hits esc and aborts the benchmark. The bench usually just sits and uses a little cpu and nothing. Benchmark appears frozen in time, but actually still running according to task manager lol. I'm at a loss. Perhaps I will re-install windows soon and try all over again with this setup. I was having issues with that one, the 1080ti didnt like it at all.... I went to 417.22 and it's fine Maybe you'll have the same luck? Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 29, 2018 13:22:28 GMT -5
No luck Vin. The driver made no difference at all. I have a feeling it has something to do with the windows install and possibly AMD Ryzen OC utility.
Had some strange things happen with the Ryzen Master where it will turn off all my cores except one. It takes a bios reset to get the cores back. As long as I don't use the Master Utility, I have no issues. I un-installed the AMD ryzen Master utility and won't look back at it. I miss the use of AMD overdrive. It was a much better program imo.
So for 3DMark Vantage is the only program I've had an issue with besides the Ryzen utility.
Other than the above it games very well, folds like a champ and OCs decently. For the last 9 hours, I've been at 4350Mhz with SMT off and the system is very fast.
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Post by zila1 on Dec 29, 2018 13:37:12 GMT -5
Ryzen Master can be wonky. I do all my clocking and adjustments at the bios level. I do however use it for just temp monitoring and nothing else and I make sure no other temp monitoring programs are active at the same time. Like a pit bull, Ryzen Master is very territorial. And there is one thing I know without a doubt..........this rig is stable as a rock and fast as all hell. Not too many past builds I could say that about. Purchasing this chip has been one of the best decisions I have ever made. Amazing.
Edit: Now I'm waiting for Scottie to pull up with a Thread Ripper.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 29, 2018 13:51:11 GMT -5
I have been using HWInfo64 (much less so than...) and also Gpu-Z for temp monitoring. Gpu-z is nice because it gives me ONE temperature to watch instead of all 8 cores readout. I assume gpu-z reads the same as bios when it comes to the cpu temp, which may be the socket temp, but I think it's Core 0 temp in reality. I agree, this has been the best PC purchase of my time as well. For the price, lots of Cpu power. And I'm fine that it doesn't bench Legacy very well. AMD never did bench legacy well any ways, so pretty used to that little tid bit. I fired up Metro Last Light. The game looks phenomenal!! Since dropping in the GTX770 with 1500 cuda cores instead of the 512 of the 580, this rig really plays everything on either high or maximum detail with some room to spare. Scotty and a Thread Ripper? Nah, I think he's hooked on costly Intel products at the moment. His TR budget is shot now! (kidding.)
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Post by zila1 on Dec 29, 2018 14:09:18 GMT -5
Scotty and a Thread Ripper? Nah, I think he's hooked on costly Intel products at the moment. His TR budget is shot now! (kidding.) You made me laugh........
Now I have to buy more games, I can play whatever I want now. The icx 1070 is cold and fast.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2018 16:15:18 GMT -5
TR.....wouldn't that be sweet. Need some more white gold to finance that deal. Intel?......what's that?
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Post by zila1 on Dec 29, 2018 16:30:08 GMT -5
Need some more white gold to finance that deal. Oh and I'm sure you'll have plenty of it to get that kick ass rig. I'm just sitting here patiently awaiting the announcement.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 29, 2018 16:42:18 GMT -5
Has 20 grand plus in HW.... Can't afford a cpu lol.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2018 19:17:56 GMT -5
Man..........
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 29, 2018 20:06:48 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2018 20:09:58 GMT -5
Realistically, I could get into a 1950X and a decent board for under a grand.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 29, 2018 20:14:01 GMT -5
Gotta be 2nd Gen and impressed would see you actually go big for once lol.... but hey I fully understand price to personal satisfaction.
I'd settle for a 1st gen 32 thread right now.... 1950x isn't out of reach really. I get it. But keep waiting. They come down in price eventually.
Probably in 5 years, 64 threads will look like childs play.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Dec 29, 2018 20:31:14 GMT -5
Sorry to spoil the fan folks I HAD for a couple of months a Threadripper 1950X on an Aorus ( Gigabyte ) board. Threadripper IS NOT - DEFINITELY NOT - for gaming or 3D benching. It is a server processor adjusted for the masses. Supports ECC memory and is intended to be used for data processing. TR uses infinity fabric technology with 100gbps speed to interconnect the cpu's sub modules. Extremely high latency makes this line up of processors an absolute NO-NO for gamers or 3d benchers. In order to counterfight the disadvantage, AMD disables half cores ( for example 8 out of 16 on 1950X ) in order to vastly improve latency ( thus NUMA versus UMA internal arrangement ). GAMING MODE THEN. Yeah - pardon my ass. In a straight forward comparison with my ex-Ryzen 1800x, there was absolutely no gain to see in any Game or 3D benchmark. Even the 2990WX monster can't hold up with a mere ten core 7900X or even better 7920X. Data processing is another story and we all have to bow there. But then I am in the wrong forum and site, yes ?
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2018 20:35:34 GMT -5
Sorry to spoil the fan folks I HAD for a couple of months a Threadripper 1950X on an Aorus ( Gigabyte ) board. Threadripper IS NOT - DEFINITELY NOT - for gaming or 3D benching. It is a server processor adjusted for the masses. Supports ECC memory and is intended to be used for data processing. TR uses infinity fabric technology with 100gbps speed to interconnect the cpu's sub modules. Extremely high latency makes this line up of processors an absolute NO-NO for gamers or 3d benchers. In order to counterfight the disadvantage, AMD disables half cores ( for example 8 out of 16 on 1950X ) in order to vastly improve latency ( thus NUMA versus UMA internal arrangement ). GAMING MODE THEN. Yeah - pardon my ass. In a straight forward comparison with my ex-Ryzen 1800x, there was absolutely no gain to see in any Game or 3D benchmark. Even the 2990WX monster can't hold up with a mere ten core 7900X or even better 7920X. Data processing is another story and we all have to bow there. But then I am in the wrong forum and site, yes ? Interesting. I would use it for a daily driver. Do I need it?, hell no, but I would like to play with one just for the novelty.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Dec 29, 2018 20:39:30 GMT -5
Sure Scotty, you ( and evryone ) can choose to have anything for a daily. Just my 2 cents though
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2018 20:42:17 GMT -5
Sure Scotty, you ( and evryone ) can choose to have anything for a daily. Just my 2 cents though I do appreciate the info. I won't be jumping right in on this anytime soon. Just a wish list.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 30, 2018 0:05:03 GMT -5
I have no desire for 16 or more cores if I was doing video encoding all the time yes but I dont so no desire for it.
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Post by Vinster on Dec 30, 2018 0:13:10 GMT -5
TR wouldn't fold to the lights of a GPU.. I'd have no need for it... I barely max out at ryzen 1700x...
Vin
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Post by ozz on Dec 30, 2018 0:40:50 GMT -5
and if you do , what gpu are you gunna get to push it to its best??? a bloody pipe dream, get over it and leave it alone and get back to simple stuff
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 30, 2018 8:24:11 GMT -5
I know your desires Vin a Pair of RTX2080Ti's
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Post by georgekokovinis on Dec 30, 2018 9:36:37 GMT -5
I know your desires Vin a Pair of RTX2080Ti's 5000 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ + NVLink.
A pair of them in the hands of JMPBOY ( watercooled ) running almost 2200 core, with a 7980XE at 4.7ghz were destroyed by a pair of RTX 2080 Ti's under LN2.
And when during 2019 Nvidia presents RTX 3000 with HBM2 memory and 6024 tensor cores, the RTX 2080 Ti will be worth 1K.
Usual stuff.
The usual money game. For Internet boints, lol.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 30, 2018 15:23:27 GMT -5
I had noticed they had HBM2 memory on some of the Quadros was wondering when thy would bring it to the Desktop.
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