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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 22, 2018 21:56:08 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Jun 22, 2018 22:31:26 GMT -5
TBH there aren't any "reasonably" priced sticks out there. Also to get the full potential of Ryzen you'd need larger sticks too and of a higher PC rating. These are the sticks I grabbed for my setup www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231952 and are a decently rated set.... However I know in the overall I'd be better off with a larger set. Would be great for benching if I had a board that would run them to their full potential but sadly I don't have one that does. Up to you as to what's important for your needs, price certainly being important here. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 22, 2018 22:42:24 GMT -5
I can't do $140 on memory sticks.
Nothing fancy really. I just need a testing set up for Ryzen chips. Just need to post windows and operate.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2018 8:01:19 GMT -5
3200 speed ram is the sweet spot for Ryzen.
You want a 2x8 gig kit with the lowest latency you can afford.
None of it is cheap. You will need to look for a used set.
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Post by zila1 on Jun 23, 2018 10:52:17 GMT -5
Yup, Ryzen chips don't "wake up" until they hit 3200MHz ram speed and as tight as possible. I am running this on my Ryzen 5 1600: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232217I didn't pay that for them but I still got hurt bad on the price. I had no choice if I was gonna get myself an upgrade. But they are slick Samsung B-die and they tighten up pretty well. That is what you want...........B-Die.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 23, 2018 11:12:16 GMT -5
Bdie bdie bdie you want for ryzen bro nothing less and zila and Scotty are right they don't go til at least 3200mhz 3600 would be ideal
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 23, 2018 11:14:39 GMT -5
Better yet just message me ShrimpBrime maybe I can help you out |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 23, 2018 15:06:39 GMT -5
I'm building for testing De_lidded chips. This is not intended for overclocking and getting scores.
Really anything "should" do the trick. I do plan o. Getting an OC board, but not going all out if you guys know what I mean...
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 23, 2018 15:56:43 GMT -5
I'm building for testing De_lidded chips. This is not intended for overclocking and getting scores. Really anything "should" do the trick. I do plan o. Getting an OC board, but not going all out if you guys know what I mean... If that's really true, then you buy the cheapest single stick that is on the boards QVL list and call it a day. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 23, 2018 16:02:13 GMT -5
It is really true. I'm saving nickels and dimes!
I'm looking for 2 sticks Scotty. Would like to be sure that both channels work. Usability. Run some benches and such yes. Not going extreme beyond liquid here. I'm saving that for hardware that we traded with each other. I gotta line up on some LN2.
Gonna build a gamer rig for myself as we spoke of also. That I have everything for now, is good.
So on the resale side of things, I don't want super cheap one stick. 8GB is fine, decent. under 100 bucks. Used would be nice, but I don't need abused hardware. I've had enough issues with memory being abused before I get it...
I've never owned GSkill memory. usually Corsair is what I like. Mushkin is also one of my favorites. However either brand is expensive.
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Post by Bones on Jun 23, 2018 16:29:14 GMT -5
G.Skill is tops ATM with Corsair and Mushkin right behind them. Patriot makes good sticks too, some of the best sticks I've ever had were pats and I personally woudn't hesitate in buying another set, esp if I knew what I was looking at.... But I guess that's true with all of them.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 23, 2018 17:31:12 GMT -5
GSkill is tops?
How's Adata looking with DDR4?
See some sticks that are 3000 for under 100$
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 23, 2018 18:23:34 GMT -5
Oh well if its not for benching then you omly need one as Scotty said
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 23, 2018 20:12:55 GMT -5
No still need dual channel. The 1090T lost dual channel after a de-lid. I still need to make sure it operates correctly after the modification.
I suppose I could get one stick at a time and it'll cost me more that way no?
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Post by ozz on Jun 23, 2018 20:39:41 GMT -5
why would a delid cause it to lose dual channel ?,
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 23, 2018 20:57:53 GMT -5
why would a delid cause it to lose dual channel ?, You can hurt the IMC on the chip causing it to not read one channel |
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Post by ozz on Jun 23, 2018 22:24:30 GMT -5
why would a delid cause it to lose dual channel ?, You can hurt the IMC on the chip causing it to not read one channel righto, would have been soldered ihs then i reckon |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 24, 2018 11:00:13 GMT -5
why would a delid cause it to lose dual channel ?, You can hurt the IMC on the chip causing it to not read one channel Tried 3 other processors in the same board. I think one of the 9590's lost dual channel also, but that was from running crazy HT speeds. Somewhere over 4ghz I think it was. For sure soldered. Those are my favorite to de-lid!  |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 24, 2018 11:28:09 GMT -5
You can hurt the IMC on the chip causing it to not read one channel Tried 3 other processors in the same board. I think one of the 9590's lost dual channel also, but that was from running crazy HT speeds. Somewhere over 4ghz I think it was. For sure soldered. Those are my favorite to de-lid! that 9590 is the one Pete ended up with aint it? |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 24, 2018 12:52:01 GMT -5
There was 2 of em' He got one. After that is a mystery cause I don't remember. (Other one died during de-lid. Cut tracings...)
Either way those chips where well over 5ghz on liquid. They both clocked pretty close to each other.
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Post by Vinster on Jun 24, 2018 12:54:17 GMT -5
CL14 -3200Mhz Ram.\
depending on the board, there is a DRAM Boot/Startup voltage that you need to apply for it to boot above (I think) 2933Mhz. I have to have mine at 1.4v to boot at 3200Mhz and once in Windows it claws the DRAM V back to your DRAM voltage.
keep that in mind if you're going above the Stock DRAM frequency
Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 24, 2018 13:03:04 GMT -5
Those look like memory Batman would love. They look so cool.
However 250US dollars is way over what I could ever afford. Looking for 2 sticks, under 100 bucks.
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Post by Vinster on Jun 24, 2018 13:21:35 GMT -5
they're clockers. CL14 in DDR4 at the time when purchased there were only 2 sets available. so I went with these.
I pushed them up to 3500Mhz at rated timings at 1.4v dropped iut back to 3200 for 24/7
Vin |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 24, 2018 15:15:11 GMT -5
I see a ton on DDR4 sticks on ebay 4GB $25-50 ea with no heatsinks just buy 2 of those
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jun 24, 2018 19:49:39 GMT -5
No heatsinks? May have an advantage there!
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jun 24, 2018 19:53:37 GMT -5
DDR4 don't get hot. Even overvolted a half a volt. Heatsinks do not matter.
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Post by ozz on Jun 24, 2018 19:55:55 GMT -5
i remember a bloke called golden fingers i think his name is, said to me a while back , real over clockers dont need heat sinks on their ram  |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jun 25, 2018 6:02:24 GMT -5
My bdie has no heatsinks as said before they aren't needed even on air you can run 1.85v to them
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 8, 2018 9:54:23 GMT -5
My bdie has no heatsinks as said before they aren't needed even on air you can run 1.85v to them Iirc it was single bank ram that is mandatory for 1st gen ryzen, unsure if that is still true for Ryzen+ or if it is a chipset/bios limitation |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jul 8, 2018 11:07:28 GMT -5
yes they are single sided sticks both sets of b-die I have
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