AMD Soldered De-Lid List & Tutorial

[ShrimpBrime]

Soldered De-lid list

Ryzen 7 2700x Working
Ryzen 3 1200 Working
FX-4100 De-lidded not working
FX-4300 De-lidded working
FX-6100 De-Lidded Working
FX-9590 De-lidded Killed x1
FX-9590 De-lidded Working 
FX-8320 De-lidded working
B73 x3 De-lidded working
Athon 5000+ unlocker FX-5000
970T De-lidded for a customer Working
1090T De-lidded  Working
965BE De-lidded  working
940BE De-lidded working
9850BE De-lidded  working
9950BE De-lidded  working
6400+ De-lidded  working
6400+ delidded working 

No solder de-lids - 

Ryzen Athlon 200GE with Vega Graphics
Athlon 6000+ Windsor
Athlon 4400+ Brisbane
Athlon 4200+ Brisbane
Sempron LE-1100
Opteron 146 Venus
Opteron 165 Denmark
Athlon 3400+ Venice



FX BullDozer Llano (Bobcat) and Phenom (Agena) and Phenom II (Deneb) Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS Plate) Soldered Removal Guide. This is recommended for Liquid Cooled (or better)PC's Only! Warning! High Temperatures. You may burn yourself. No Person But yourself is responsible for damage or cpu life decrease.

Step one. Gather tools needed to complete the task.

1. Razors
2. Cpu
3. Mini torch
4. Toilet Paper
5. Wet sanding paper
6. Athlon Heat Sink
7. A Fan
8. Camera
9. Grounding wire (You must be grounded or insulated from static)
10. Knowledge of De-lidding Athlons that aren't soldered. (Very important) --I'll explain later..

Step 2. Clean the Cpu and take a pic. The information lies there. It sometimes get's damaged by heat and then becomes no longer legible.

Step 3. This is where your previous knowledge comes in handy. Using your razor, you make the incision into the Silicone where the IHS plate is glued to the board. Make several passes carefully until the blade slides easily all the way around. The Athlon A64 Cpu's (low end) without solder will end at this step. After you've made a few careful passes, the IHS plate will pop right off.

Step 4. Warning Hot Place the Cpu pins down on your Athlon Heat Sink. This is to draw the heat off of the pins as quicky as possible. The pins are soldered on as well and can fall off. Put two razors on either side of the IHS plate where you've made incisions. This will tell you when the solder has broken free and will allow you to flip the IHS plate off.

Time for Heating the IHS plate to melt the solder which holds the IHS plate to the Silicone that is placed Over the Insulator (SOI). The Silicone is not very delicate. It'll hold up to the heat no problem. It has a higher melting point than the solder.

Gently lower the torch while lit on a Medium Low Flame. Over heating would be bad. You then loose control and then possibly loose pins. Heat the IHS plate a little at a time. Be careful not to burn your self. It can be tricky wanting to grab the cpu. Don't worry you'll remember quickly if you do touch it.

As the heat builds you'll smell the solder starting to heat up. As soon as you see a Razor move, the Bond is broken. Quickly set the torch down and grab hold of the razors. Keep in mind they are hot. Gently twist them like a key away from you towards the wall. As the IHS plate comes up, start blowing softly into the space between the IHS plate and the SOI. This will cool the solder so that you can safely just flip the lid off. My suggestion is to ware a pair of thin cloth gloves for grabbing the Razors. They Will be very hot.

Step 5. Cooling and Lapping 101.

Get the fan on it fast. Cool the cpu quickly back to a room temperature. You don't need to stick it in a freezer or anything, it'll be fine with the heatsink under it. When the cpu is cool, use the little pin cover foam from the cpu box and cover the pins. Use your thumbnail to gently scrape the solder down as far as you can. Be careful not to bend pins or chip any of the little chips around the SOI.

Lap it! Same thing as doing the IHS plate it'self, just smaller. Do the figure 8 motion with a very high grain paper. 1500 at the least amount of grit. This process will remove the remaining solder from the Silicone. When you have completed the lapping, check for the bent pins and straighten them. Then apply the Thermal paste nice and thin. I used a Razor this time around instead of a gaudy credit card.

Step 6. Turn the PC on and Cross your fingers. Both Phenom's that I've De-lidded booted and run. So far I'm 2-0. You should notice a very nice temp decrease at load as well as idle. Why spread that much heat with the IHS plate, when you can remove it faster?

I hope this Tutorial helps guide you to a safe IHS plate removal. 

This thread is moved from another forum on which date I had originally created it.12-03-2009 

Will be posting some pictures.

[Bones]

Don't forget the 4300 you did I now have.

[ShrimpBrime]

Right, added it to the list thank you

Did you ever post it up? How did it do?

[Bones]

Of course - Scored a few points with it on water.
Can't recall if I ever had it frozen or not myself but I know you did.

[ShrimpBrime]

Haha, yea it's a pretty fast chip. Some 7.2Ghz or something thereof. Bench stable all cores somewhere around 6.5ghz or better if I recall. Pull off 6Ghz on Dice all day. I was gaming on some of these FX processors on LN2. Wasn't all just bench-marking you know

[Vinster]

expensive gaming session...

Vin

[ShrimpBrime]

Not really. The airgas guy gave it to me free Once every few months or so.

Another bummer is Walmart discontinued the DICE. Ours was one of few that carried it. I used it for everything, including camping.

[Vinster]

DICE is a special thing out here, only 1 company sells it out here... and it's $7.50/Kg after a few loads the guy would over top my coolers as they get natural loss in their storage bins and it really helped me out.

VIn

[ShrimpBrime]

Need a chest freezer. It'll last a bit longer.

[Vinster]

Jun 7, 2018 22:59:31 GMT -5 ShrimpBrime said:

Need a chest freezer. It'll last a bit longer.

my little freezer is full of food... no room for DICE.. wifey would kill me too

these days' I'm short a POT as I sold it to Dan.

Vin

[ShrimpBrime]

Make one. I used a thermaltake water block and a brass handrail 2" diameter. Soldered them together and done. Instant dice pot. Just used a 2" hole saw to cut a shallow channel for the hand rail to sit in. Good stuff.

[Vinster]

I like it.. just might do that...

question, little off topic... is it safe to do DICE indoors? like in a basement? I'd had always reserved it for the garage.. but my benching area is now indoors

Vin

[cbjaust]

Jun 7, 2018 23:21:40 GMT -5 Vinster said:

I like it.. just might do that...

question, little off topic... is it safe to do DICE indoors? like in a basement? I'd had always reserved it for the garage.. but my benching area is now indoors

Vin

you'd want to ventilate so you don't drown in CO2 gas, also what are you using with the dry ice? I've seen people use acetone which sounds crazy to me, much better to use ethanol.

[Bones]

Actually acetone is good, in some ways better than ethanol.
Acetone doesn't give off fumes once it's cold and lasts for a good while.

Wherever you do it make sure you have plenty of ventilation, I've done it indoors before and had to do that.
If you are benching indoors and start to get a headache, shut it down and GET OUT to fresh air.

[ShrimpBrime]

In a basement is fine. Just run the furnace to keep air circulation. I've done ALL my benching in the basement with LN2 and Dice/Acetone.

But in reality, you probably won't have enough LN2 or Dice to displace all of the oxygen. It would take quite a bit to saturate a basement assuming it's 800 square feet or more.....

[Macsbeach98]

I have run dice and LN2 with the windows and doors closed in the room before plenty of times.

[ShrimpBrime]

Best 3 pictures of 965BE de-lidded. 

[Mr.Scott]

Still does 4 gig all day long.

[ShrimpBrime]

That's awesome! Wasn't aware you still had it in use!

[Mr.Scott]

Not in use currently, but still........

[ShrimpBrime]

That one was the forth Cpu that I de-lidded that was soldered.

[ShrimpBrime]

Under the hood of an FX-6100 chip.

[Vinster]

that's cool

Vin

[ShrimpBrime]

New fresh de-lid. B73. Is in working order.

Haven't done that in a while. Good stuff.

[Bones]

Now THIS was the easiest delid I've ever done period - I'd almost guess it's the easiest delid anyone has ever managed to do.
Went to remove the cooler from one of my San Diego 4000 chips for tearing down the system and to stash everything. This cooler is notorious for sticking to the lid of a chip, usually resulting in the chip being pulled right out of the socket..... But not this time.

The lid simply popped right off the chip!

You can even see the outline of the lid pattern in the glue that was holding it and all else. I've never heard of this happening before from anyone and it's a chip I bought brand new back in the day when the egg was clearing these out.
This one is a LCBBE 0633 chip that was among the ones I bought for $40 during this time, decent clocker too but not of the order of my good one.
Check it out.

[Vinster]

lol, that is wonky.

Vin

[Bones]

Since I've heard of one other it happened to, namely an Intel chip but it's still weird all the same.

[Mr.Scott]

Definitely not common, that's for sure.

[Macsbeach98]

I would say its a chip thats run for a long time under an air cooler fairly hot and its made the glue weak.
Its how you get all Nvidea big lids off e.g. 8800 to 580. Hit them with the hot air tool most of them just fall off.

[Bones]

Actually it was never ran much and mostly on water when I did use it.
One of my backups to the good 4000+ I bought back in the day, it has been on air before but not for any real length of time. I believe this one has hit 3.2 before but that's all.