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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 16, 2018 22:27:58 GMT -5
I've had this for some time and never got a chance to fire it up.... till today. The only working DDR3 capable processor I have is a lonely sempron 140. Have tried to unlock this one. It won't, at least not on this motherboard. It just hangs with error code FF. So far I've been successful at overclocking mildly at 3.1ghz as it stands now. Need some help. I'm not familiar with MSI. Looking for dual channel. Right now populating the 2 black slots closest to the cpu socket, which I'd assumed it would be dual channel, but it's not.... I'll be downloading a copy of the operators manual shortly to read up and see if I can't get unlocking to work. Running some air cooling, but it's not factory stock to a desktop. It's a server heatsink with a large copper plate and a small 60-80mm sized fan that simply rips ear drums out of peoples heads at full blast. Would 3.5ghz be reasonable for overclock, say for daily use? Or should I aim higher closer to 4ghz? (On air cooling) At about 1.4v cpu core and it seems very stable atm.  |
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Post by ozz on May 17, 2018 0:20:57 GMT -5
i got a asrock 890fx deluxe 3 mobo in my daily, a 980BE cpu, it unlocks cores too, ive had it on the bench to do it b4 it went in the daily i had a look at that board shrimpy and im quite impressed with it actually, it has an unlocking option too, also its got a huge NB, VRM heatsink, the slots you have the mem in are for dual channel, dimm1, i did notice tho there is quite a lot of agesa code and mem updates in the support section, might need another bios, heres the manual, i dont think youd have much trouble with the sempy at 4 gig and stable unless its a dog of a cpu, its only a single core, not real much chop for other than basic use stuff on a daily is it download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/E7640v1.2.zipwww.msi.com/Motherboard/890FXAGD70/Overview |
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Post by Vinster on May 17, 2018 11:10:24 GMT -5
I've had this for some time and never got a chance to fire it up.... till today. The only working DDR3 capable processor I have is a lonely sempron 140. Have tried to unlock this one. It won't, at least not on this motherboard. It just hangs with error code FF. So far I've been successful at overclocking mildly at 3.1ghz as it stands now. Need some help. I'm not familiar with MSI. Looking for dual channel. Right now populating the 2 black slots closest to the cpu socket, which I'd assumed it would be dual channel, but it's not.... I'll be downloading a copy of the operators manual shortly to read up and see if I can't get unlocking to work. Running some air cooling, but it's not factory stock to a desktop. It's a server heatsink with a large copper plate and a small 60-80mm sized fan that simply rips ear drums out of peoples heads at full blast. Would 3.5ghz be reasonable for overclock, say for daily use? Or should I aim higher closer to 4ghz? (On air cooling) At about 1.4v cpu core and it seems very stable atm. Use one Black and one Blue. I think the colours designate CH1 (Blue) / CH2 (Black). I also believe you need to use the slots furthest from the CPU if you only have 2 sticks. Vin EDIT: I stand corrected, I've not seen that memory configuration since an old DDR or DDR2 board....  |
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Post by Mr.Scott on May 17, 2018 15:13:02 GMT -5
Sempy 140 @ 1.4v, you should be able to go 3.8 on air without much problem.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 17, 2018 17:10:48 GMT -5
Well, I hit 3.2ghz and it blacked out. FF code cycles no post. Reset cmos nothing. Pulled 1 stick.... Same. VGA card out, still flashes FF..
At a loss here.
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Post by Mr.Scott on May 17, 2018 17:27:41 GMT -5
Shitty chip. It happens.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 17, 2018 17:33:14 GMT -5
Chip is toast then? I dont think I have another to try.
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Post by antinomy on May 17, 2018 18:33:37 GMT -5
I think it's more likely the MoBo - they have a bad history, these MSIs. 790/890 series.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 17, 2018 19:37:14 GMT -5
Well at least I got it to post and run once.
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Post by Aleslammer on May 18, 2018 6:55:57 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that, was unaware that they were problematic.
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Post by Bones on May 18, 2018 10:42:05 GMT -5
Had one myself, good for everyday use and some mild to moderate OC'ing but issues with it's weak VRM setup really hurts it.
Shrimpy, the Sempy's I had did the same in other boards I used them with related to unlocking. Chances are it's not the board keepng it from doing so but it's still a possibility. That board is best used with lower wattage chips like a Sempy or Regor core.
I'll also throw in the OC dial is an EXTREMELY useful feature it has for running it up to the absolute max. That's one thing MSI has in it's favor with some models, features that are really useful (And actually work) but then they cheap out when they make the board itself.
Another thing with that board model is you can run a quadfire setup if you want. As far as FSB clocking goes mine wasn't that great, your could be different and maybe clock up. Anothet thing is the RAM slots are indeed matched by their color by channel, they just do them differently than other makers do for some reason related to how they are laid out on the board.
Keep us posted on how it does.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 18, 2018 22:24:32 GMT -5
Really wasn't pushing that hard honestly. I think it's because the core unlocker is on or auto which where I had left it. It hung once trying and on the first attempt and then the overclock blackscreened. I should have disabled it manually after the first attempt. It was merely user error. A different cpu might just post the board right up... Have read in the past a lot of mixed reviews for this particular motherboard, it being RMA'ed by some and frustration that goes with a down PC yada, And others claiming just excellent overclocking. Through most of the 790FX and up this is the first 890 chipset I've run. No doubt I have learning to do as it seems to be familiar but mostly lacking a lot of features the Asus boards had. It's all in a strange order in the bios layout it'self, however just never had MSI or 890 chipset. I haven't done quad fire in years Bones lol. Was running a 4850x2 Saphire with a couple of Asus single slotters for quad fire. So much Unreal tournament Half Life and CS/CSS. Of all the video cards out there I've sold, I'd so love to have that card again. Just cause It overclocked so well. A pair would be mean. Was running Phenom II 940 stable at 3.9ghz  The MSI board needs to sit without power for a few days. It doesn't have a cmos jumper..... |
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Post by ozz on May 18, 2018 22:34:31 GMT -5
Really wasn't pushing that hard honestly. I think it's because the core unlocker is on or auto which where I had left it. It hung once trying and on the first attempt and then the overclock blackscreened. I should have disabled it manually after the first attempt. It was merely user error. A different cpu might just post the board right up... Have read in the past a lot of mixed reviews for this particular motherboard, it being RMA'ed by some and frustration that goes with a down PC yada, And others claiming just excellent overclocking. Through most of the 790FX and up this is the first 890 chipset I've run. No doubt I have learning to do as it seems to be familiar but mostly lacking a lot of features the Asus boards had. It's all in a strange order in the bios layout it'self, however just never had MSI or 890 chipset. I haven't done quad fire in years Bones lol. Was running a 4850x2 Saphire with a couple of Asus single slotters for quad fire. So much Unreal tournament Half Life and CS/CSS. Of all the video cards out there I've sold, I'd so love to have that card again. Just cause It overclocked so well. A pair would be mean. Was running Phenom II 940 stable at 3.9ghz The MSI board needs to sit without power for a few days. It doesn't have a cmos jumper..... yes it does, its to the left side of the oclock control knob according to the manual,JBAT1 its called on page 2.2 and 2-19 of the manual, next to the oc dial button an the green power thingy , right next to the 2nd mounting hole near the last pcie slot it is, i gave a link in my first post of the manual for it |
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Post by Bones on May 19, 2018 9:04:49 GMT -5
Really wasn't pushing that hard honestly. I think it's because the core unlocker is on or auto which where I had left it. It hung once trying and on the first attempt and then the overclock blackscreened. I should have disabled it manually after the first attempt. It was merely user error. A different cpu might just post the board right up... Have read in the past a lot of mixed reviews for this particular motherboard, it being RMA'ed by some and frustration that goes with a down PC yada, And others claiming just excellent overclocking. Through most of the 790FX and up this is the first 890 chipset I've run. No doubt I have learning to do as it seems to be familiar but mostly lacking a lot of features the Asus boards had. It's all in a strange order in the bios layout it'self, however just never had MSI or 890 chipset. I haven't done quad fire in years Bones lol. Was running a 4850x2 Saphire with a couple of Asus single slotters for quad fire. So much Unreal tournament Half Life and CS/CSS. Of all the video cards out there I've sold, I'd so love to have that card again. Just cause It overclocked so well. A pair would be mean. Was running Phenom II 940 stable at 3.9ghz The MSI board needs to sit without power for a few days. It doesn't have a cmos jumper..... The board has alot of features but not ot the extent an Asus would probrably have. The biggest thing is how they are named vs most others, once you learn the terminology of it you'll see this. Ozz is correct, it does have a jumper for clearing the BIOS but lacks a removeable BIOS chip, that one thing I didn't like about it. The one I was running up until recently (FX 870 chipset) did way better in terms of FSB speeds but thanks to the cheap VRM setup Vdroop was definitely there as in severe. This is why even with the model you have I don't suggest running anything over 95W in it and even then I'd have to think about it. If using it for heavy OC'ing it's best ran with Sempy's and Regor cored chips to prevent VRM problems. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 19, 2018 17:01:26 GMT -5
Military Grade Components = Hand Grenade.
A few MSI models around that era were known to go off like fire crackers.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 19, 2018 23:44:40 GMT -5
Stop Mac you're scaring me....
Yes I see it now thanks Ozz. Got the jumper swapped and going to let it sit for over night and try to post it again tomorrow.
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Post by ozz on May 20, 2018 0:19:01 GMT -5
it is quite well known, msi military just blew up, and for no reason from what ive read shrimpy, hope yours dont, this asrock 890fx deluxe3 is pretty much a basic but been rock solid here for near 3 yrs now, ive had it on the bench too and it goes ok
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 20, 2018 17:22:23 GMT -5
I really wasn't stomping on it hard. Give it a shot in a couple of minutes.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 20, 2018 17:33:22 GMT -5
Good luck.  |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 20, 2018 17:38:47 GMT -5
No good luck. Still stuck on FF error codes. OK that would be the lowest overclock I've ever killed a board at :/
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 20, 2018 17:43:45 GMT -5
No good luck. Still stuck on FF error codes. OK that would be the lowest overclock I've ever killed a board at :/ that sucks I killed the EP45C at stock  I sent it to Bones he said he might be able to fix it |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 20, 2018 18:29:03 GMT -5
Hope he can fix your board Shady. That would be awesome!
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 20, 2018 20:03:03 GMT -5
Hope he can fix your board Shady. That would be awesome! yea Id like to see him get it going again so I gave it to him he hooked me up with bios chips for NF4 which I have yet to get to work right LOL and a few semprons which I only have CHVZ and non Z and 790x chipset is better for those? |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 20, 2018 20:56:31 GMT -5
When it comes to some preset bios's like the one I'm using, I found it helpful to run my own manually input memory settings and run from SPD configuration for the memory that is in use. Mine posts all memory makes, it runs 2-4-4-0 1T.
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 20, 2018 21:19:46 GMT -5
When it comes to some preset bios's like the one I'm using, I found it helpful to run my own manually input memory settings and run from SPD configuration for the memory that is in use. Mine posts all memory makes, it runs 2-4-4-0 1T. my problem is every time I save a setting in the bios I have to clear cmos cause board wont post or restart after |
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Post by Bones on May 21, 2018 3:10:25 GMT -5
Normally you'd see the FF code when the VRM's die like mine did.
You'd also never see the machine do anything but yours is apparently getting into the BIOS, if that's so then it's probrably not a VRM problem.
Try clearing CMOS and if you haven't already, see if it will POST and hold settings on full auto with nothing actually set in the BIOS.
BTW mine died at 100% stock speeds and settings. Did the FF and thats all folks, no booting into the BIOS or anything once that happened.
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Post by mrpaco on May 21, 2018 4:02:48 GMT -5
When it comes to some preset bios's like the one I'm using, I found it helpful to run my own manually input memory settings and run from SPD configuration for the memory that is in use. Mine posts all memory makes, it runs 2-4-4-0 1T. my problem is every time I save a setting in the bios I have to clear cmos cause board wont post or restart after I had the same exact issue with a GA-MA790X-UD4P, even changing the battery did not work. Ended up flashing the BIOS and problem solved. |
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 21, 2018 7:00:39 GMT -5
my problem is every time I save a setting in the bios I have to clear cmos cause board wont post or restart after I had the same exact issue with a GA-MA790X-UD4P, even changing the battery did not work. Ended up flashing the BIOS and problem solved. its weird Ive tried 3 or 4 sets of ram changed battery 2 bios chips I am totally in the dark on where to go next with it |
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Post by Bones on May 21, 2018 10:39:42 GMT -5
Keep working with it.
I've had boards do it before after they had sat for awhile and simply running them eventually caused the problem to go away. Can't say these are the circumstances with yours but with mine that's how it was.
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 21, 2018 16:45:23 GMT -5
I plan to mess with it some more again when I get a couple more PSUs I think that might be one of the issues
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I sent it to Bones he said he might be able to fix it 
