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Post by ozz on May 17, 2016 5:45:28 GMT -5
yay, spoke to the asus guy this arvo, finally looks like itll be the end of this week or around mid next, ill get a crossblade back, so i can get back into the apu stuff, be interesting to see how this 1 goes against the last ,the maximus hero is done ready to come back with it too, apparently the crossblade got sent but to the wrong address, so im guessing not to asus in sydney as he said coz i never got it and neither did he lol, as he said its going to be fully checked by him before being sent back to me, and as i said in the other place, the offer for the M3A32 MVP and the P5Q3 still stands to take them to him to tell me what is wrong free of charge, im a happy bloke
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Post by ozz on May 19, 2016 19:31:58 GMT -5
yippydoo...the crossblade and maximus V1 hero just arrived back home, not sure how to tell if the crossblade is a refurbished or a new board, looks totally new to me, and the maximus has a new socket in it as he promised.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 19, 2016 20:05:12 GMT -5
WTG Shane. You might have to introduce me to Jun. I have got a Asus FM2 board here that has just died I will be checking it out today.
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Post by ozz on May 19, 2016 20:11:44 GMT -5
WTG Shane. You might have to introduce me to Jun. I have got a Asus FM2 board here that has just died I will be checking it out today. no probs pete, damn , just up and died ?
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Post by Vinster on May 19, 2016 22:32:40 GMT -5
Congrats Shane, happy this saga is finally sorted out for you.
Vin
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Post by ozz on May 19, 2016 23:04:38 GMT -5
Congrats Shane, happy this saga is finally sorted out for you. Vin thx vinnie, its been nearly 2 mths now, they just couldnt find a crossblade for me, the maximus was done finished over a mth ago, but i said to jun better to wait for the crossblade to come and sent them both back in 1 box, save shipping for them, was picked up by startrack yesterday arvo and was here at 9-30 am today, pretty good service, certainly cant complain about asus and startrack services , i actually know the guy for yrs from startrack that delivers, he comes from where i live lol, weve had a few beers together over the yrs at the pub, so im lucky i hit the jackpot there with both
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 19, 2016 23:17:40 GMT -5
Aust Post owns Startrack they aint always reliable.
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Post by ozz on May 19, 2016 23:20:51 GMT -5
Aust Post owns Startrack they aint always reliable. didnt know that pete , but, ive always had good delivery from startrack, aust post itself is another cup of tea
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 20, 2016 0:29:55 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on May 20, 2016 1:11:16 GMT -5
yep, he said he works out of tuggerah, he used to have just a silver van, now it has to be painted startrack colours so he had to get it painted at his cost too to keep goin, the outside is white and blue, (startrack) the door jams and inside are still silver lol
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Post by mistone on May 20, 2016 1:47:15 GMT -5
glad to hear she's back home ozzy
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Post by ozz on May 20, 2016 2:10:26 GMT -5
glad to hear she's back home ozzy thx man, yeah is good to have em back all fixed , but for now is the 939 socket im tryin to do better at
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Post by ozz on Aug 5, 2016 23:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by Johan45 on Aug 10, 2016 13:31:10 GMT -5
That's a good possibilty Ozz, That can be a real problem for peeps with those almost full ATX boards that don't reach the last standoffs in the case. When installing the 24 pin power or mems they break traces and many times the MFG will not replace the board claiming end user damage
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Post by ozz on Aug 10, 2016 16:53:51 GMT -5
well johan its all about money isnt it, they make the pcb as this as possible now, look at the older platform boards against the boards made today the pcb is nearly twice as thick and putting in the 24pin and the 8pin power plugs can be hard and even harder to get out in the newer boards, ive noticed this on a couple of my newer boards. i recently looked at the new evga classified series 1150 socket board and their pcb is is a full 8 layer pcb which im presuming is a thicker pcb
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 10, 2016 17:50:57 GMT -5
8 layer doesnt really mean thicker it just has 8 layers of tracks. A computer PCB is a Laminate with tracks running in certain directions on each layer. That is how they get tracks that run say north to south to jump over tracks that run east to west they just put them on a lower layer.
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Post by ozz on Aug 10, 2016 18:19:54 GMT -5
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 10, 2016 18:47:58 GMT -5
An example: The ports on the back of the computer USB, keyboard, mouse and such all connect to the southbridge which is diagonally at the other corner of the board. The traces that connect those ports to the southbridge is on a layer beneath the surface otherwise if they were on the top of the board there would be traces that they would have to jump over to get there. If it was single layer with all the traces on the surface it would be impossible to do because of the amount of traces that have to go across other traces.
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Post by ozz on Aug 10, 2016 18:55:09 GMT -5
An example: The ports on the back of the computer USB, keyboard, mouse and such all connect to the southbridge which is diagonally at the other corner of the board. The traces that connect those ports to the southbridge is on a layer beneath the surface otherwise if they were on the top of the board there would be traces that they would have to jump over to get there. If it was single layer with all the traces on the surface it would be impossible to do because of the amount of traces that have to go across other traces. so if i understand this right 1 trace cant cross another trace coz itll interfere with its message line so they have to have different layers for different traces to send the message from whatever the signal is coming from , is that right ?
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Post by Vinster on Aug 10, 2016 20:54:31 GMT -5
Think of streets and subways Shane. And beneath the subway is the rain water ways. There are 3 layers there, all for separate specific reasons. What Mac is referring too is the same thing.
Vin
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Post by ozz on Aug 10, 2016 20:57:09 GMT -5
Think of streets and subways Shane. And beneath the subway is the rain water ways. There are 3 layers there, all for separate specific reasons. What Mac is referring too is the same thing. Vin so is what i said right ? if they say intertwine and meet together theyll get the wrong signal or do they join up in places, now im gettin really confused
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Post by Vinster on Aug 10, 2016 21:15:43 GMT -5
They don't cross paths Shane because they are different layers. In my example, the separation is concrete, on a motherboard it's fiberglass.
Vin
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Post by ozz on Aug 10, 2016 21:18:14 GMT -5
They don't cross paths Shane because they are different layers. In my example, the separation is concrete, on a motherboard it's fiberglass. Vin ok i get it now, different layers for each section to be able to work right
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Post by Vinster on Aug 10, 2016 21:22:08 GMT -5
They don't cross paths Shane because they are different layers. In my example, the separation is concrete, on a motherboard it's fiberglass. Vin ok i get it now, different layers for each section to be able to work right You got it. Vin
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Post by ozz on Aug 10, 2016 21:23:19 GMT -5
ok i get it now, different layers for each section to be able to work right You got it. Vin ok thx vinnie
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Post by ozz on Aug 11, 2016 3:21:07 GMT -5
and i just proved it, i set the dfi 790 fxb up, same back plate, same everything and no buckle at all, and i use stronger water block springs where ive bought 2 x springs and cut them in half and still no buckle, the newer platform boards say from 775 to am2 , the later would buckle, all more to my point, thinner boards, MORE MONEY for the maker, thinner boards means more boards can be made, but less quality, then you go thru all the RMA bullshit because youre trying to prove that you did nothing wrong and the maker says you did, ...end of story for the buyer, its simple maths for the makers and that = MONEY, its like anything we buy now, computers or not, but it, use it, when it fucks up throw it to the shithouse and buy another ...thats the world we live in now you can see the shit chinese backplate bent a bit, but the DFI 790fxb is still straight, try doing that with the later platforms lol, and ive got stronger springs
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