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Post by Bones on Jan 6, 2018 12:21:39 GMT -5
Just asking what you guys would suggest running with one of these chips.
If I get to use it I want something that will do the job like the Z77 OCF does for my 3770K chip, that setup still kicking butt today as you all know.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 6, 2018 13:20:46 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Jan 6, 2018 14:11:00 GMT -5
Forgot to say my budget is limited but that's what I would "Like" to get, all things considered.
Great suggestion but probrably way out of my price range, I'd have to say around $200 or so is it. I will say however I could sell some stuff if I really wanted to, that would help with getting one or something close (Enough).
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Post by dr4g00n on Jan 6, 2018 14:36:51 GMT -5
Look for a used Maximus IX Apex or Z170M OCF, you can find either for <$200 usd if you look around.
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Post by Bones on Jan 6, 2018 15:25:00 GMT -5
Been considering something used, the OCF I've seen new for just over $200, it's a thought and I'll keep poking around. I know of a few already that may do it for even less, just have to find one and see what I can do.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 7, 2018 18:35:14 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Jan 7, 2018 18:59:17 GMT -5
Nice - Will probrably be gone by the time I get some $$ scratched up for it.  Working on that and will probrably be a little while before I'm ready, will probrably have to sell some stuff to get something going but that's how it goes. EDIT: Need to also say until I have the chip "in hand" I'm not buying anything even if I have the $$ to do it beforehand. |
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Post by alpi on Jan 8, 2018 21:51:23 GMT -5
If You can buy a Gene for a good price You should'n ignore it ! Maybe it's an option too ! I've had one for a while and I really like it ! There are no issues or limitaions, it's really a flawless one I think !
Also I have to mention the insane eff, what this board gives !
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 9, 2018 7:05:38 GMT -5
I had a Maximus VIII Gene it wasnt a bad board better than the VIII Hero.
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Post by Bones on Jan 9, 2018 14:05:17 GMT -5
I've always known the Hero series as a lesser version, capable but probrably doesn't have all the options or the same range of tweaks as the Extreme or Gene versions - Like Sabertooth is to the Crosshair series.
Thanks for the suggestions, it's a good thing to think ahead and figure out what would be best.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Jan 9, 2018 22:14:28 GMT -5
dude Z170M OC Formula is beast of a board apex is also one badass board
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Post by Bones on Mar 1, 2018 23:02:28 GMT -5
Update: I did finally get a board and it's one of the Hero versions but should be good, namely a Maximus IX Hero. Found it as a "For parts or repair" board and looks good. Comes with everything it 's supposed to have and as for the problem it has, there is one pin that's bent (Not too badly - I can fix it) and best of all I scored it for $85 shipped.  The board itself should work once I fix the pin and at this price, it's worth the risk I took getting it. Here's the listing: www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-IX-HERO-MOTHERBOARD/282858694946?hash=item41dbb12922:g:zPsAAOSwSutaPGlU |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 1, 2018 23:47:00 GMT -5
Gee you are keener than me Rodney I would like a better pic of the socket than what is shown.
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Post by ozz on Mar 2, 2018 0:00:15 GMT -5
Gee you are keener than me Rodney I would like a better pic of the socket than what is shown. was gunna say the same thing pete, you beat me to it, theres two arrows there that says maybe more than 1 bent pin to me  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 3:41:14 GMT -5
There's a z170 OC formula here seen some LN2 action & has been left condensation damaged. ps2 is no go & only x1 usb works. So that's get OS installed & fit a usb card in the pic slot later for mouse/ keyboard. Apart from that you can OC with it fine. Free if you want it.  |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 2, 2018 6:37:07 GMT -5
That would be probably be fixable
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 7:01:31 GMT -5
Too technical for me mac's .. you want to tackle it?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 2, 2018 7:14:27 GMT -5
Yep I would have a look at it dead USB ports are generally fuses.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Mar 2, 2018 8:35:28 GMT -5
Z170M OC formula or Z270 Maximus IX Apex those are the 2 best OC boards for Z170/270 done LN2 on both but if you do do cold with them SEAL that apex good mine died and started killing chips cause I didnt make sure it was totally sealed and good and thick so the LET cracked and let condensation fry it out
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Post by ving on Mar 2, 2018 18:57:32 GMT -5
Z170M ocf should be optimal. She likes b-dies and e-dies...on both mems You can reach ~4000. She have only one problem(maybe not)...5 levels of LLC...and it will be a little bit harder to find optimal oc for 24/7@air/water but bclk adjustments will help (avg. max 115-120...tested on 3mbs)  Best Regards |
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Post by Bones on Mar 2, 2018 19:34:52 GMT -5
I have some metal plates I'll use as shims to reniforce the socket area for mine, once I get it and deal with the pin I'll have to scratch up some RAM and that will be the hurdle to overcome.
I believe those arrows (Cardboard arrows) actually come with the board, not that they are being used to point to a problem but if so I'll deal with it. I'm in the position of beggars can't be choosers so.... I'll have to make lemonade from the lemons I have.
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Post by ozz on Mar 2, 2018 19:52:12 GMT -5
I have some metal plates I'll use as shims to reniforce the socket area for mine, once I get it and deal with the pin I'll have to scratch up some RAM and that will be the hurdle to overcome. I believe those arrows (Cardboard arrows) actually come with the board, not that they are being used to point to a problem but if so I'll deal with it. I'm in the position of beggars can't be choosers so.... I'll have to make lemonade from the lemons I have. to me its trying to point out the pin, pins bent , you'd think if it was that then asus would show it, and clearly dont, but i dont really know, i havent got 1 www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20OC%20Formula/index.aspso what? least its real lemonade, not some made up thats full of sugar and additives. preservatives shit |
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Post by Shadyreaper on Mar 2, 2018 22:15:09 GMT -5
I have some metal plates I'll use as shims to reniforce the socket area for mine, once I get it and deal with the pin I'll have to scratch up some RAM and that will be the hurdle to overcome. I believe those arrows (Cardboard arrows) actually come with the board, not that they are being used to point to a problem but if so I'll deal with it. I'm in the position of beggars can't be choosers so.... I'll have to make lemonade from the lemons I have. hey if you keep looking at newegg you will find IX apex for $200 that is how I got mine they also have a few on ebay but new is the only way bro they are $270 but keep an eye out for a day or so trust me it will hit $200 again cause it did like a week after I bought mine |
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Post by Bones on Mar 3, 2018 5:47:03 GMT -5
I get what you guys are saying but I'm in no position to argue - If it's something I can get cheaper then thats what I have to do.
I too prefer to buy new if possible but the way things are now for me, I have to go the cheap route if I want to continue. Good thing is I can fix alot of problems I run into saving me some $$ on things like this.
I would have prefered to grab an OC Formula as above but the $$ spent for the board I picked up makes it an acceptable risk as to whether it can be fixed or not, all total I have $85 in both the CPU and board for this setup.
I went with a Z270 board because the RAM speeds with these is supposed to be better overall, doesn't mean I won't run into problems OC'ing RAM with it but should be better than the Z170 version at least - I will however keep an eye out for a good deal on an even better board later.
However..... The deal is done and the board is on it's way, real problem for me is getting some RAM to use it with and I'll be saving up for that.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Mar 3, 2018 8:31:28 GMT -5
well just keep your eyes peeled brother you will find a good deal on one I was super lucky to be able to get my MOCF and a 6700k for $250 Im looking to buy another Apex Im not gonna waste my time trying to RMA the LET is being a pain to get off the mobo but Im not paying $270 either LOL right now I am looking to pick up more CPUs I have Splaves 7700k in my sights now although $700 is steep but to have one of the best 7700ks in the world its worth it to me
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Post by Bones on Mar 5, 2018 18:34:07 GMT -5
The board arrived and looks like it was never used but it does have a few pins bent - Luckily none appear to be broken. Probrably someone's botched install - Like they had a case of butterfingers with the CPU.
Most of these aren't bent badly at all and even looks like the original owner tried and managed to get a few fixed correctly themselves before giving up on it, one or two pins are clearly more than just slightly bent but still manageable.
Ordered a jewelers goggle/hood set for such work and I needed a set of those anyway, it's not like I can't use them because I can so nothing was wasted on that purchase.
I knew it was a risk so no one to blame but myself if it doesn't work out but for the $$ spent, to me it was still worth it even with this.
I'll take my time with it, get it right and see what goes.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Mar 5, 2018 18:54:07 GMT -5
The board arrived and looks like it was never used but it does have a few pins bent - Luckily none appear to be broken. Probrably someone's botched install - Like they had a case of butterfingers with the CPU. Most of these aren't bent badly at all and even looks like the original owner tried and managed to get a few fixed correctly themselves before giving up on it, one or two pins are clearly more than just slightly bent but still manageable. Ordered a jewelers goggle/hood set for such work and I needed a set of those anyway, it's not like I can't use them because I can so nothing was wasted on that purchase. I knew it was a risk so no one to blame but myself if it doesn't work out but for the $$ spent, to me it was still worth it even with this. I'll take my time with it, get it right and see what goes. man you got done like I did that sucks |
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Post by Bones on Mar 5, 2018 19:22:53 GMT -5
I know.... I took another look at the board and it's not quite as bad as I first thought.
It even looks like most of the pins I'm "Seeing" as bent really aren't, the little tips/dots of these are where they should be so I do believe it was worked on before and they got it mostly right but there's still a couple that needs work.
I figured out back when working on my OCF to view these pins at different angles, one will make it look differently than another angle will and that's what I did.
Not as bad as it looked at first but I still have work to do.
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Post by ozz on Mar 5, 2018 19:28:39 GMT -5
ive found if the look like they throw a shadow on whatever angle then they are bent , ive found they all have to look like the gold colour they are, if no shadow then theyre straight and where they should be
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Post by Bones on Mar 5, 2018 20:45:15 GMT -5
Yep - Some of the pins do throw the shadow as you said in different directions but not badly.
Real concern is for the tips of the pins to be where they should be and for these pins to not touch each other and that's largely what I'm seeing.
Some are twisted to an extent but the tips are in the right place and aren't touching other pins so those should be OK and would be best to leave them alone, it's the ones with the tips not in the right place and/or touching other pins I'm having to worry about. If I can get those sorted it will be fine.
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