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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 28, 2017 23:57:26 GMT -5
OK I have it up and running. But I have this really stupid issue.
I cannot for the life of me get ClockGen to work lol. It used too. I remember using it.
Do I need the chipset drivers installed?
(Going to set up a new OS but 32 bit maybe?)
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Post by Bones on Oct 29, 2017 2:20:35 GMT -5
Probrably - Sometimes having the drivers loaded solves alot of issues.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 29, 2017 6:46:45 GMT -5
OK I have it up and running. But I have this really stupid issue. I cannot for the life of me get ClockGen to work lol. It used too. I remember using it. Do I need the chipset drivers installed? (Going to set up a new OS but 32 bit maybe?) Yes. Clockgen needs SMBus drivers installed to work.  |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 1, 2017 2:21:45 GMT -5
I have issues with this board like no other lately! SMBUS drivers will not install. Says they are installed, but upon restart, not installed. So if I don't restart I get more than 2 tabs but have to select Phase Lock Loop for myself, which I hadn't needed to do before, and it still doesn't OC. Issues with wireless adapter a plenty, I get internet, but not from the source I want it from. It's soo weird. I cannot connect to the home wifi, but can connect to the home "xfinity" wifi and us my comcast login and I get internet all night long. The XP driver works in W7 as does the W7 driver and visa versa for XP. It drives me mad! Not to mention getting blue screens with the W7 installation disk. Which led me to believe I had memory issues, so I swapped two sticks of Ram and bam everything works great. I have a ghost in this board. It's not a happy one either. Not winning over here. Not even a little bit.  All hardware is done for. My s939 rig is the only decent one left it seems.... |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 2, 2017 2:03:52 GMT -5
YAY! After some hardwork and looking through my Motherboard hand book.... I figured it out!
I usually write down tips and tricks as I tend to forget them. On the very last page I wrote to use ClockGen NForce4 utility and CrystalCPUID for over-volting.
Still nothing about SMBUS in the device manager which is weird. Seems un-needed at this time as I'm flying a cool 100mhz OC.
So, I'm off to score some points with this rig. I have a few processors to go through, so at least I have something going on lol.
Audio drivers don't install, smbus doesn't install, chipset drivers won't install. I'm at a loss but overclocking never the less and won't question it from here on out!!!
Thanks for the help though fellas!.....
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Post by alpi on Nov 12, 2019 4:52:53 GMT -5
I think I can write here about my H8DCE even. Not the same Asus board but pretty the same chipset and also issues and solutions as I see. My board also built around the nForce 2200 Professional chipset however it has another nVidia nForce Pro 2050 which adds some nice features but not affects to how or if You can overclock or tweak any setting. I've never had even a dual cpu board, also any real workstation like this Supermicro. I tried to collect some infos, and others experiences while was waiting the cpus and memory package. Now, I see that most of the things aren't really true. I mean about how fully they locked and slow ecc mem storys, and so and so. Because of those "facts", I tried to buy as high freq cpu as I can and looking only for 400 mhz sticks while I didn't know if there will be any mem tweaking option in bios or just an Spd set. Ok, cpus are really cheap (fortunatelly something is still cheap...) and I found the 285(ost) which is the same as the "normal" 285 but rated only 68W tdp instead of 95W. Whilst no other differences found I made my decision on buying a pair from those Opterons. Choosing the memory was next. Most of the cases I've found Hynix D43 and Micron based sticks for sale. D43 is something that goes a bit or more beneath than my expectation, Micron ic's are could be much better but also has some issue factors.  In desktop boards (cpus) are often picky with my Micron stick. Too often.. :S Also they are really hot, no need any little torture even but if they any similar to I've seen earlier they have good chance to keep a possible 3-3-3 timing much higher than a D43 ever, not to mention that has a little chance (supposition of suppositions :DDD) to a 2,5-2-2 at low freqs what could be great if I can't clock any single Hz higher. Sorry for being so long just I think it could be helpful if anybody wants to build a set like those or / and it could be a good conversation starter.  Finally I've found a seller with Opteron 285's and some D43 Hynix sticks at really good price. Not to mention that He is Italian and You know, the best if You buy Your Italy from Italy. (The core named Italy in 285's. :DDDD ). I have to hang on writing but I will continue it soon. Add some pics from the "pre-dualized" era !    |
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Post by alpi on Nov 12, 2019 6:48:08 GMT -5
So the moment finally arrived, all the components were in my hands. I put everything in its place, plug in, and... First "Wtf" and forced rest happened before the start. "where are those PWR On pins ?!?!"  Wasn't even one single pin where it should be.  )) So at first sight it was a bit better than I expected as a worst case. Not only the time, date and boot prio. but the mem has settings. All the basic timings, settings and even the frequency could be adjusted. Pretty fast was turned out for myself, that the way I think about a server board and what does the lack of any tweaking and oc abilityes was pretty much false. Fortunatelly I mean ! I think it could be something like a downgraded desktop but not ! A downgrade has prohibited things whilst in my H8DCE those are just not offered but no need to do limitations because no one want to do them in normal cases. Being a top chipset the abilityes also should be ok. set the bclk was easy. It's more or less an Nf4 copy, first try was with the Nf4-clockgen and guess what was an instant hit. My first "problem" came after a short period. Write "problem" because at this point it could do what I've ever wanted to be happy. But You know how we feel.. Just a bit more pls !! So the thing was the 13x multi what I had to solve to get more headroom. As ShrimpBrime mentioned CrystalCPUID was another score. Works perfect and also I found a tiny overvoltage ability. Cpus have 1.35 Vid what is could be raised to 1.4V also. (I wonder why that 1.4V barrier is but I think that's the upper level of the cpu vid range. Maybe, maybe not.) Next thing is have to be mentioned is how the mem's rocks !! I mentioned? finally I bought 8 x 512 Hynix D43 based Ecc sticks because it was the same seller as the cpus and ofc were pretty good price. Nahh.. Those D43's performs really awesome ! Was hard to believe at first time. The board spec tells a 2,5Vdimm and no voltage options so that's not too good for performing any memory better. My D43 sticks can do 480Mhz 2,5-3-3-5-7-14 1T !! Not only the clock but the tight mains and secondarys are awesome ! Next thing was Windows 7 64.. Ofc no one tweaking methods working.. Nf4clockgen does but sometimes it causes a freeze.. Don't know why. Totally random issue. In the end, I found ntune the perfect way, a bit slow start at opening but I have no issues with that. I finally could change multiplier with Rmclock ! You need to overwrite a sys file and it became workable in 64 bit oses too. However a bit mindblowing to set up the basics because its freezing 2 times from 3 attempts when You exiting.. Restart worked much more often, and it's saving the settings fortunatelly just like closing it. The small ammount of Voltage raise with 1.4Vid setting also could be done in Rmclock. Also, Athlon64tweaker (have to try one, two version maybe) and memset works good it seems. So that's the short, err... long story of me and my new love !  At least, if I can't any more voltages, I've tried to cool better. Man, those cpus are crazy ! With a chiller I became real close to 3 Ghz barrier. Still on 1.4Vid with a small drop so something 1,38-1,37 could be the real vcore !! That thing is performing really insane ! The numbers won't give You the exact feeling working on it. It feels really, unquestionable powerful and fast. Speed can be seen in every single second. Fluently has its tempo ! hwbot.org/submission/4277371_hwbot.org/submission/4277369_I hope it could be useful anyone who became an owner of a thing like this green, Eatx, beauty ! It could be hard to get the infos because I made it to such long story but if need any info (and I know it ofc) feel free to ask. Maybe if we start to discuss together, even more ways could be found ! |
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Post by alpi on Nov 12, 2019 17:11:35 GMT -5
Do anybody know any good pin guide to s940 ? Ofc. not because I want any thing like that, I told I keep myself to a worksration behaviour ! Just want to know. I've found some really clear, good 939 pin guide and pin mods but two of them mentioned that it shouldnt be done on any s940 because different layout ! Do You know any working pin connections or even a link where its been shown ? All I want to try for the very first time that (if it's possible ofc) I give a little higher vid, for example 1.45, how would the board react. I mean, I wants to clear that maximum 1.4v thing. Is it from the cpus vid table or its a limization of the board. However I don't think any limitation would be given as a "vid", because its pretty much lack of any logic. But limiting between vid range or within a small range, I mean vid - 0.25, + 0.05 (just an exam) is something what usually happens. ShrimpBrime : Do You have any barriers like me ? Or your board gives more freedom on vcore ? |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 12, 2019 17:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by alpi on Nov 13, 2019 6:31:53 GMT -5
Thank You ! Spent some time till figuring it out but as I see its pretty much the same like in 939. The warn about not to do the 939 method on 940 is very true ! Man those 4 pins aren't even close than the 939's !! One little headscratch to the end, my 285's 1.35 vid cause really low ammount of possible vids with pin mod. :/ Actually there is one, I can do 1.55v. Thats not so high but I would take some smaller first step. ). Ofc it could me set all the possible vids but to do this I have to pull out some pins and that's couldn't be happened. I hope it could be lowered at least with cpuid. :/ |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 13, 2019 16:43:10 GMT -5
VID[0] G11
VID[1] H11
VID[2] G10
VID[3] F9
VID[4] G9
These are the 5 options to pin mod. Think mine was VID 2 or 3 which was 1.4250v.
Somewhere, I have all this on a HDD I think I even took pictures. Not sure which drive, it would take me a while to find the correct information.
For now this is the best information I have on hand.
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Post by alpi on Nov 13, 2019 17:59:19 GMT -5
Used the offi. Socket datasheet. The 1.35 vid coded with only one blind pin so only one decision exists. Hook it to another and made it "connected" or leave as it is. :/ When all pins connected, the max 1.55v vid given. I will try it soon and tell You my findings.
The formula shown on page 46 , "table 11". In the datasheet, You linked earlier.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 13, 2019 18:25:12 GMT -5
Used the offi. Socket datasheet. The 1.35 vid coded with only one blind pin so only one decision exists. Hook it to another and made it "connected" or leave as it is. :/ When all pins connected, the max 1.55v vid given. I will try it soon and tell You my findings. The formula shown on page 46 , "table 11". In the datasheet, You linked earlier. I may had all the pins connected for 1.55v, but Cpu-Z may have read lower as it does on some platforms. I'd really rather have 1.65v on 130nm cpus, I never hard modded the board though. That's something Mac'sBeach would have to help you with. |
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Post by alpi on Nov 14, 2019 8:44:38 GMT -5
Can't stop wondering how good this oldy s940 could be ! Also really like my Am4, everyday rig. Tastes like the earlier golden era. Browsing the net for tweaking softwares, pin diagrams, bla-bala, then a pic came to my screen shows the basic structure of dual socket s940 board, oh wait ! I've seen You earlier ! Maybe the biggest difference could be its turned with 90 degrees. What do You think ?   |
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Post by cbjaust on Nov 14, 2019 9:06:27 GMT -5
It's pretty cool. Also you could think of it as drawing a big square around a pair of Athlon MP CPUs and the Mainboard Northbridge and that's the basic structure of Zen2.
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Post by alpi on Nov 21, 2019 6:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 21, 2019 8:03:30 GMT -5
Awesome. Will subscribe when sitting at a pc!!
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Post by Vinster on Nov 21, 2019 13:29:46 GMT -5
Sub'd as well.
Vin
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Post by alpi on Nov 21, 2019 15:20:47 GMT -5
Wow, thx guys ! Have You realised the lack of any content ! Now I should keep up doing smthg. However it feels really good to show any interesting for You after that ammount of help what I've got from here ! |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 21, 2019 19:20:21 GMT -5
Wow, thx guys ! Have You realised the lack of any content ! Now I should keep up doing smthg. However it feels really good to show any interesting for You after that ammount of help what I've got from here ! Always have interest for you, my fellow overclocker and friend! Anything to help, we are always here! |
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All hardware is done for. My s939 rig is the only decent one left it seems....
In desktop boards (cpus) are often picky with my Micron stick. Too often.. :S Also they are really hot, no need any little torture even but if they any similar to I've seen earlier they have good chance to keep a possible 3-3-3 timing much higher than a D43 ever, not to mention that has a little chance (supposition of suppositions :DDD) to a 2,5-2-2 at low freqs what could be great if I can't clock any single Hz higher. Sorry for being so long just I think it could be helpful if anybody wants to build a set like those or / and it could be a good conversation starter. 
Wasn't even one single pin where it should be. 
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