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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 15, 2016 1:23:03 GMT -5
So about a week ago I picked up these OCZ Platinum DDR2 2x1GB stick so far with the stock timings I have been able to push 525mhz (1050mhz) during my memmaxx read test with those settings I was able to pull 8358 memmaxx read speed hwbot.org/submission/3368131_shadyreaper_maxxmem_read_bandwidth_ddr2_sdram_8358_mbytesec. do you guys think I can get more outta this mem? what should I look to do 1st also when I set the FSB it jacks the mem speed all up or is this just something normal and I need to adjust the mem speed as I adjust the FSB also I was told to use SetFSB for Asus P5B Deluxe with that program you just set your voltage in the bios and adjust the FSB in windows? also when I run my C2D E6600 if I dont run the stock speed the damn thing wants to idle at 45-50c even after adjusting the voltage my E6320 did hit 50c until I pushed it to 2.8ghz up from the 1.86ghz stock speed hell it didnt hit 60c under load until I pushed it to 3.04Ghz with 1.43v even then it seemed like it had more balls then the E6600 any suggestions to what might be causing this both were running on the stock intel cooler until I get my water setup in the coming week
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Post by ozz on Nov 15, 2016 2:10:38 GMT -5
they run warm, as far as i know as you raise the fsb the mem will raise with it, you can go to bios and change then ram strap , i was worried about 50c but as i was told their tdp is well above that, im only on air now coz im waiting on some bits for my water so ive put a finger chopper dell fan on the cpu a q9300 in the gig p45, in the gig p35 is the q6600, pete said the core 2 run warm and once again its all in the silicon lottery what you get
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Nov 15, 2016 3:35:16 GMT -5
Try 1.4v NB and 2.1v mem they should go a bit faster than that.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 15, 2016 8:28:18 GMT -5
ok I will bump the NB up I already had the ram at 2.1v I am gonna do some more benching today and Ozz its a E6600 not a Q6600 E6600 is a dual core 2.4ghz I jsut dont get why the temps are so much worse then the E6320 but Im gonna play around with it more today after breakfast
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Post by Aleslammer on Nov 15, 2016 11:36:58 GMT -5
Intel's Tj Max #s, Tj max for the E6xxx (B2) as stated by Intel produces a below ambient result also the sensors on the low side are notoriously bogus. The last paragraph of the article sums it up (just more confusion). I generally use from 90-100 for temp monitoring software based more on observation, average air at default voltage assume 10c above ambient at idle.
www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-dts-specs,news-29460.html
Going to have to Cut & Paste anything past the comma no working.
Link to the link that worked
forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=294208
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 15, 2016 11:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on Jan 5, 2018 20:25:05 GMT -5
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 5, 2018 21:44:59 GMT -5
For 800Mhz the timings aint good CL 5-4-4-18 \ But I do like his water cooling gear.
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Post by ozz on Jan 5, 2018 21:55:46 GMT -5
For 800Mhz the timings aint good CL 5-4-4-18 \ But I do like his water cooling gear. timings are shit, its the 4 x4 gig thats brought the money, 4 gig sticks in ddr2 are hard to get, and to get 4 x 4 gig in 1 go is rarer, from my research there wasnt too many that made 4 gig ddr2 yeah so do i, im watchin that too id buy the lot if i had the dough, at least id have a go at it just for the water blocks and pumps alone, i dont need the radiators, if you could buy the lot for 200, you got a deal
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 5, 2018 22:19:44 GMT -5
Yep timings are shit and 4 gig sticks are useless for benching. What else you going to use them for to put in a daily runner who uses 775 these days for a daily. Save your money forget about them. Yep I will be keeping an eye on the water cooling gear only thing is you have to go and pick it up at Haberfield.
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Post by ozz on Jan 5, 2018 22:25:56 GMT -5
Yep timings are shit and 4 gig sticks are useless for benching. What else you going to use them for to put in a daily runner who uses 775 these days for a daily. Save your money forget about them. Yep I will be keeping an eye on the water cooling gear only thing is you have to go and pick it up at Haberfield. yep i know pete, i dont want the ram, but the price blew me away, as for the cooling gear as i said id buy it if i had the money,and haberfield is about 1 1/4 hrs away each way on a good day, another pain in the arse if you won the bid
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 5, 2018 22:28:02 GMT -5
Yep you have to drive sometimes for good deals.
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Post by ozz on Jan 8, 2018 22:52:41 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 9, 2018 16:38:52 GMT -5
Should be PSC chipped.
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Post by ozz on Jan 9, 2018 17:04:40 GMT -5
they are scotty with the 1040 numbers arrived today, 4 x 1 gig PSC chipped gskill trident x, will see how they go
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Post by ozz on Jan 16, 2018 21:27:10 GMT -5
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 16, 2018 21:43:41 GMT -5
928 = 2009 28th week 064Y = Elpida
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Post by ozz on Jan 16, 2018 21:47:07 GMT -5
928 = 2009 28th week 064Y = Elpida ah righto pete thx, i had another look as was gunna say im guessin elpida, worth it or not ??, theyre 9-9-9s
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 17, 2018 8:07:33 GMT -5
I probably wouldnt worry about them 9-9-9 @ 1600 aint real inspiring.
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Post by ving on Jan 17, 2018 21:39:26 GMT -5
I have one kit of them 10th week of 2010. I tested them on ReX...they have problems with cl6 above ~1800(no boot...same with 6-7-6-18/20...strap333 5:8/1:2)...they doesn't like 1.8v+(sometimes bsod sometimes no boot)...cl7 ok(~1950 done 333 5:8/1:2). Comparing to Kingston T1 they are not good (T1 2133...6-6-6-18/6-7-6-18 ~2000...1.9-1.93v).
Best Regards:)
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Post by ozz on Jan 17, 2018 22:09:37 GMT -5
, thx guys im not going to pursue them
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Post by ozz on Jan 17, 2018 22:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 18, 2018 16:06:15 GMT -5
Top link is DDR3. They won't be D9's.
The patriots are D9, but don't waste your time. I have a set and they ain't that great.
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Post by ozz on Jan 18, 2018 18:35:54 GMT -5
Top link is DDR3. They won't be D9's. The patriots are D9, but don't waste your time. I have a set and they ain't that great. righto then scotty thx, that does that
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Post by Vinster on Jan 19, 2018 7:45:36 GMT -5
The patriots are D9, but don't waste your time. I have a set and they ain't that great. I'm with Scotty on the Patriots, I've had about 4 sets of various patriots and they all couldn't perform their stock timings without more voltage. Vin
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Post by ving on Jan 24, 2018 20:45:55 GMT -5
From ddr2 the best would be crucials 16fd5...they can run cl4 on 5:6(333) ~1200 2.5-2.7 and 5-4-4-12 5:6 ~1300+...4-4-4-12 1200 1:1...but they need extra fun(something better than 140s nh-d15) and lower ambient (AC or open window in winter:) ). Also they have the best perf/$. From rare mems: - Transcend axeRam 1200 - cl4 5:6 1200 2.5-2.7, 5-4-4-4-12 1200+ (they are little colder) - TeamXtreem 800 cl4 - cl4 5:6 1200 2.5-2.7, 5-4-4-12 1200+ (sometimes lower memory score in geekbench3) Best Regards
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Post by mllrkllr88 on Feb 8, 2018 11:22:41 GMT -5
From ddr2 the best would be crucials 16fd5...they can run cl4 on 5:6(333) ~1200 2.5-2.7 and 5-4-4-12 5:6 ~1300+...4-4-4-12 1200 1:1...but they need extra fun(something better than 140s nh-d15) and lower ambient (AC or open window in winter:) ). Also they have the best perf/$. This is amazing advice right here!!! I spent some serious time testing DDR2. All of the Crucial .16F series kits I have tested will do 650 5-5-5-5, but the really good ones will do close to 700 5-5-5-5. If you sacrifice some frequency then you can get them to do 4-4-4 or 5-4-4 as you mentioned. I agree with your voltage, you are bang on! They will scale up to 3v but I have seen rapid degrade...you have like 1 hour at 3v before they loose MHz.
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Post by Vinster on Feb 8, 2018 11:25:51 GMT -5
you have like 1 hour at 3v before they loose MHz. I'd expect that to be a permanent loss right? or is it just a heat related issue you're talking about? Vin
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Post by mllrkllr88 on Feb 8, 2018 11:50:04 GMT -5
Yes, it's permanent. I have seen about 10-25mhz loss in OC potential from kits that I have run at 3.0v on air. I have confirmed this on at least two different kits. When the kit costs you $10 on ebay, and you are going for a glory run, then the loss is acceptable IMO. The OC potential going from 2.7(max no degrade) to 3.0 is indeed quite small, but its definitely there. I am always prepared to sacrifice my equipment for "the score", especially if I am battling one of those W9 guys in a comp....oh yes I did just go there Competitors can still be friends
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Post by Vinster on Feb 8, 2018 12:09:18 GMT -5
When the kit costs you $10 on ebay, especially if I am battling one of those W9 guys in a comp....oh yes I did just go there Competitors can still be friends That's where living in Canada Sucks... by the time you factor shipping and duty and tax... that $10 kit has cost you $50... We've always welcomed competition, even within each other. you can't get better without competing with someone. I just wish I didn't work so much to take advantage of that. Everyone on this team is better than me, imagine the potential growth lol Vin
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