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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 18, 2023 14:31:35 GMT -5
Help me out please.
Found myself facing a deteriorating no post condition, stuck at memory LED.
Pulled 13700K from the socket and it seems dryice and chilled loop has made some white corrosion. It looks minimal to moderate, I believe totally save-able.
I am not familiar with LGA, must of my cpus always been PGA, simple, just fill the socket with dielectrical grease.
Whats the best method to clean one thousand and seven hundred pins?
What do you do to protect the socket from reoccurance???
Many thanks in advance, off to work. Bring the cpu with me and clean the pads there this evening.
THanks for the help!
Shrimp
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jul 18, 2023 15:00:43 GMT -5
It is very simple.
Spray the socket with WD-40 contact spray ( or equivelant ).
Let it work for 15 minutes. Dry with hair dryer. Repeat if needed. Be sure to dry well front and back of the board.
I have been applying this method for 10 years. Sockets are as new.
There is nothing permanent as a precaution method. Periodically repeat the procedure.
If you dry well the socket after every dice session you will not have this problem.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 18, 2023 18:31:23 GMT -5
I'm using a chiller loop also, which may be making some condensation.
Thank you for the pointer, I'll get some wd-40. Which, btw is my favorite rust penetrant
But otherwise nothing in the socket, run it always dry correct?
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jul 18, 2023 20:28:03 GMT -5
Yes, correct.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 18, 2023 23:52:10 GMT -5
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jul 19, 2023 0:32:19 GMT -5
Thank you very much, appreciate it. You are welcome. A small clarification. Wd40 CONTACT spray WITHOUT OIL. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 19, 2023 0:35:35 GMT -5
Thank you very much, appreciate it. You are welcome. A small clarification. Wd40 CONTACT spray WITHOUT OIL. Of course. I have contact cleaner, but is not wd-40. But will get specifically that brand. |
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Post by george on Jul 19, 2023 13:48:06 GMT -5
Do not take this seriously, but seems now is pop to use brake cleaner here and there. Brake cleaner has acetone so if there is a lot of crud, might work. Heck, some even put the whole motherboard in the dishwasher(never done that), the detergents are so strong that corrosion might reappear in use.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 19, 2023 14:09:23 GMT -5
Do not take this seriously, but seems now is pop to use brake cleaner here and there. Brake cleaner has acetone so if there is a lot crud, might work. Heck, some even put the whole motherboard in the dishwasher(never done that), the detergents are so strong that corrosion might reappear in use.
I have non chlorinated brake cleaner. The stuff with chlorine leaves an oily film behind, so if it's "pop" or the in thing to do, this information may be suitable for certain viewers. I worry about little things like, how far away to hold the can. Is the pressure enough to bend pins if too close? Should I stand the board up. On which side would be best for run off? Have done the dishwasher, but only a few times. It works, but isn't my cup of tea. Bones has good success with it though. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jul 19, 2023 14:32:24 GMT -5
Do not take this seriously, but seems now is pop to use brake cleaner here and there. Brake cleaner has acetone so if there is a lot crud, might work. Heck, some even put the whole motherboard in the dishwasher(never done that), the detergents are so strong that corrosion might reappear in use.
I have non chlorinated brake cleaner. The stuff with chlorine leaves an oily film behind, so if it's "pop" or the in thing to do, this information may be suitable for certain viewers. I worry about little things like, how far away to hold the can. Is the pressure enough to bend pins if too close? Should I stand the board up. On which side would be best for run off? Have done the dishwasher, but only a few times. It works, but isn't my cup of tea. Bones has good success with it though. Dishwasher. NO WAY SOCKET EXPOSED. Motherboard upside down. Full washing program with hot water and NO detergeants. NONE. SOCKET covered with its protector or a cpu if protector not available. If cpu is used, remove immediately after finish and dry out socket with hair dryer. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jul 19, 2023 14:33:54 GMT -5
50 boards ++ done. All perfect, no damage ever. As new.
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Post by george on Jul 19, 2023 14:39:36 GMT -5
My estimate would be somewhere between 2-5 inches, to avoid spraying all over the board. The can pressure, think is not strong enough to bend/move LGA socket pins.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 19, 2023 18:23:25 GMT -5
Dishwasher isnt much good for the socket with the CPU in there good for getting vaso off though.
Not a fan of WD40 that came from the TV repair days spray it in the back of a TV and switch on if there is a spark from the high voltage you have a fire.
CRC electronic contact cleaner is what I use and a small soft artists brush gently stroke over the pins.
Or you can use a small brush and straight acetone to clean the pins I have actually gotten LET out of a LGA775 socket with acetone.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 19, 2023 19:18:22 GMT -5
Gonna do this over the weekend.
For sure some picture before and after.
Will do electronics cleaner only, probably not the dish washer.
It IS a throw away board. Already had an issue with the second pci-e slot protector pulled off the board. I had to remove some pins, some still exposed.
It's already had a rough time. Used a lighter on the back side of the socket to warm it up. Got a little char look to it. Lol.
But unlike AM2/3 MSI boards, this one still working. Kind of ... haha. Couple days, get you guys some pics. Should be good for a laugh at least! XD.
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Post by george on Jul 19, 2023 19:20:14 GMT -5
yes, WD-40 is not a CPU socket cleaner&lubricator. Surely I would not ever put a mobo in the dishwasher with the CPU in place. CRC might have something that might work if the socket is "messy".
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 19, 2023 19:24:53 GMT -5
yes, WD-40 is not a socket cleaner&lubricator. Surely I would not ever put a mobo in the dishwasher with the CPU in place. CRC might have something that might work if the socket is "messy". WD-40 makes all kinds of products and contact cleaner is one of them. And I like the WD-40 brand too. I have Lawson contact cleaner for automotive battery posts. Might be too strong, this stuff takes paint off metal. |
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Post by george on Jul 19, 2023 19:28:35 GMT -5
true. Here we use WD-40 for noisy door hinges&locks. Not so much other WD products seen, CRC a bit more visible here. |
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Post by austin86 on Jul 20, 2023 11:53:34 GMT -5
just my take, some sort of electronics contact cleaner and lots of heat/air, not so much heat it removes the pins but enough to blast the crud off.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 21, 2023 14:20:14 GMT -5
The deed is done and the board is in good working order now.
Done as instructed.
Held board upside down and used electronics cleaner.
Spray with can about 3 to 4 inches away and let drip dry.
Used hair dryer on low setting for a few minutes.
Assembled and clear cmos for first post.
Results are good.
Thank you guys!
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 21, 2023 14:25:35 GMT -5
Before I had to clean it.  The after picture had motion blurr and I already assembled it. But the white stuff in the socket (corrosion?) was all over the cpu pads. That cleaned easily by simply wiping with a little cleaner on a wad of TP. |
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 23, 2023 14:41:06 GMT -5
It is very simple. Spray the socket with WD-40 contact spray ( or equivelant ). Let it work for 15 minutes. Dry with hair dryer. Repeat if needed. Be sure to dry well front and back of the board. I have been applying this method for 10 years. Sockets are as new. There is nothing permanent as a precaution method. Periodically repeat the procedure. If you dry well the socket after every dice session you will not have this problem. WD40 Professional Electronic Contact Cleaner or CRC Electronic Contact Cleaner, light light coat of dielectric grease on cpu pads. |
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Post by rushed on Jul 23, 2023 22:10:57 GMT -5
After DICE I run a short load on my CPU with empty/warm pot makes both the extraction of the cpu breaking the thermal paste 100%, and warms up the chip. The goal of this is to ping the cpu at 100% for 30-45 seconds then shut the system down. After that I take the drive off, upload any benches quick then remove the pot and cpu and put airflow over the socket and chip for a few minutes before either inserting a fresh cpu or wiping the old down with light iso on the pads letting that dry real quick and putting it back in. I don't use the system for at least 12 hours after that. Remember corrosion happens over time. The aftercare is more important than anything else really. Large ultrasonic, CRC spray, or Iso and a brush/Q-tip (I'll let you in on a secret the Q tips for makeup are 1000% times better than the regular ones) are great ways to touch up areas depending on what you're working with.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 24, 2023 11:58:23 GMT -5
After DICE I run a short load on my CPU with empty/warm pot makes both the extraction of the cpu breaking the thermal paste 100%, and warms up the chip. The goal of this is to ping the cpu at 100% for 30-45 seconds then shut the system down. After that I take the drive off, upload any benches quick then remove the pot and cpu and put airflow over the socket and chip for a few minutes before either inserting a fresh cpu or wiping the old down with light iso on the pads letting that dry real quick and putting it back in. I don't use the system for at least 12 hours after that. Remember corrosion happens over time. The aftercare is more important than anything else really. Large ultrasonic, CRC spray, or Iso and a brush/Q-tip (I'll let you in on a secret the Q tips for makeup are 1000% times better than the regular ones) are great ways to touch up areas depending on what you're working with. Interesting. I did a Dice run. Empty pot, upside down on cardboard and paper towel to catch the water. Waited about 1 hour and removed the pot. Gently blew out access water with can air. Left cpu in socket for above. Removed cpu, very minor water drops. Cleaned socket with contact cleaner. Same method as above. Dried board with blow dryer low setting. Installed cpu and gear - fired right up. I did not wait 12 hours.  |
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