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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 29, 2023 10:20:39 GMT -5
Tiny 10 benching OS. No crap at all. Only what you need. If anybodys interested I'll link my OneDrive.  |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 29, 2023 17:03:00 GMT -5
Sweet, thanks Scotty. I'll give this a shot when my motherboard comes in. Mid April wait I must.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 29, 2023 23:04:40 GMT -5
Thanks Scotty I hope it can bench 3D I know with W10 LTSB there is something missing and it wont bench 3D.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 30, 2023 8:39:35 GMT -5
Thanks Scotty I hope it can bench 3D I know with W10 LTSB there is something missing and it wont bench 3D. Funny you should mention that. I'm having a problem right now. Pretty sure it's net framework. Gonna see if I can add it. This is LTSC based BTW. |
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Post by austin86 on Mar 30, 2023 9:14:12 GMT -5
Thanks Scotty I hope it can bench 3D I know with W10 LTSB there is something missing and it wont bench 3D. Odd I have LTSB on my daily computer, I ran 3d mark on it a few times for fun. are you running the N version ? I know it causes all manner of problems with media related items. Even some you tube videos will not play on LTSB N. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 30, 2023 11:05:46 GMT -5
I don't use the light version, and still will be weird.
4 installs in the last 3 months.
Upgraded a couple times to windows 11 and seems to do better with modern 3D.
Right now, legacy 3D mark 01 can't initialize the 3D engine.
.net is up to date with installed modern 3dmark future mark services installed.
No, there's not a good approach, the drivers are mostly the conflict for me lately.
There may be a better order to install the benchmarks, but at least LOD is working, so no complaints there.
Anyhow, 4 different installs. Twice on m2 and twice on sata ssd. Each time, seems to be a different outcome.
Last time, windows repair and wiped all files instead of a fresh install off the stick.
Produced fine results.
Upgrade to 22H2?? I think might eliminate some 3d issues.
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Post by Aleslammer on Mar 30, 2023 11:29:03 GMT -5
Downloaded a zip file with multi version of Tiny 10 about a week ago but haven't given any a go yet. Did have the one in the link above included. Ran into a problem with Mcafee saying the first site tried was infected, which was strange as I don't have Mcafee loaded, so shut the PC down and checked with PCMatic on reboot, nothing found.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 30, 2023 12:03:18 GMT -5
Problem I'm having :
Benchmarks run, LOD works, but..........
tools for OC'ing card either don't work at all or crash on initialization.
Above link removed until I figure this out.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 30, 2023 14:01:23 GMT -5
Problem I'm having : Benchmarks run, LOD works, but.......... tools for OC'ing card either don't work at all or crash on initialization. Above link removed until I figure this out. Had this problem with the full version too. What I've discovered.... The card you want to OC, install the OS with. Any card of the same generation or newer should be fine after that. Going backwards in card age, seems to be a grip of different issues with compatibility. The 7470, I used power strip, the CCC AND mSI after burner did not work until installed a NV card. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 30, 2023 15:07:57 GMT -5
Problem I'm having : Benchmarks run, LOD works, but.......... tools for OC'ing card either don't work at all or crash on initialization. Above link removed until I figure this out. Had this problem with the full version too. What I've discovered.... The card you want to OC, install the OS with. Any card of the same generation or newer should be fine after that. Going backwards in card age, seems to be a grip of different issues with compatibility. The 7470, I used power strip, the CCC AND mSI after burner did not work until installed a NV card. K. Didn't help me. Still no good. I'm doing something wrong. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 30, 2023 15:19:29 GMT -5
Had this problem with the full version too. What I've discovered.... The card you want to OC, install the OS with. Any card of the same generation or newer should be fine after that. Going backwards in card age, seems to be a grip of different issues with compatibility. The 7470, I used power strip, the CCC AND mSI after burner did not work until installed a NV card. K. Didn't help me. Still no good. I'm doing something wrong. I'm using pro. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 30, 2023 19:02:12 GMT -5
I always found that DX9 cards didnt work well on W10 but LTSB didnt work at all drivers installs Ok but the card ran in 2D mode.
There was definitely something missing in LTSB.
It was a long time ago so its all a bit vague to me.
3D01 I have trouble getting it to work on anything later than Haswell.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 30, 2023 19:50:22 GMT -5
Try the one I linked Pete. Need another set of eyes.
Maybe my 1080ti don't like it.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 30, 2023 20:34:11 GMT -5
Try the one I linked Pete. Need another set of eyes. Maybe my 1080ti don't like it. Man, you shouldn't have too many issues with that card.... CSM enabled? |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 30, 2023 20:40:28 GMT -5
Try the one I linked Pete. Need another set of eyes. Maybe my 1080ti don't like it. Give me a day or 2 I am setting up a E5-1620 under cascade for today should be all golds. What board are you using I will use the same if I have got it? So much for E5-1620 cascade, Sandy Bridge didnt like -100 so had to run on the water chiller still got mostly gold though. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 31, 2023 7:48:00 GMT -5
Testing on Ryzen 5800X rig. X470 board. Board shouldn't make any difference.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 31, 2023 8:45:10 GMT -5
I have never understood the advantages of tiny versions of operating systems.
Are those slimmed down by real professionals ?
Are basic I/O operations retained, so that all drivers can be installed and operate as they must ?
I prefer another path. But I have full knowledge as to what every service does.
After normal installation, I go to services and start disabling everything not needed. OS becomes really fast and responsive and in the meantime I do not have any issues.
Works for me very well. Proof is written on the wall ( lol ).
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 31, 2023 10:09:46 GMT -5
I think W10 is just straight dodgy.
11 benches better. Better compatibility.
My issue is updating w10, then upgrading to w11, seems to take a fist full of time.
I'm no pro with the shit obviously. Just sharing my experience which seems different with each w10 install.
X500/800/1000 series I can't get running on a fresh W10 install even if you paid me. W11 seemed to be a bit forgiving though.
1080ti, well I don't think there should be any trouble at all, even on bare bones w10, but obviously, this is not the case for Scotty.
Bummer man. My brother has a 1080, upgraded him to a 6650XT I sent him. No troubles, games just fine. Hot swap went easy.... W11 though.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 31, 2023 11:04:35 GMT -5
I have never understood the advantages of tiny versions of operating systems. Are those slimmed down by real professionals ? Are basic I/O operations retained, so that all drivers can be installed and operate as they must ? I prefer another path. But I have full knowledge as to what every service does. After normal installation, I go to services and start disabling everything not needed. OS becomes really fast and responsive and in the meantime I do not have any issues. Works for me very well. Proof is written on the wall ( lol ). Just a learning adventure my friend. I'm not a frequent W10 user, so just looking for a possible edge maybe. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 31, 2023 11:05:53 GMT -5
I think W10 is just straight dodgy. 11 benches better. Better compatibility. My issue is updating w10, then upgrading to w11, seems to take a fist full of time. I'm no pro with the shit obviously. Just sharing my experience which seems different with each w10 install. X500/800/1000 series I can't get running on a fresh W10 install even if you paid me. W11 seemed to be a bit forgiving though. 1080ti, well I don't think there should be any trouble at all, even on bare bones w10, but obviously, this is not the case for Scotty. Bummer man. My brother has a 1080, upgraded him to a 6650XT I sent him. No troubles, games just fine. Hot swap went easy.... W11 though. Straight up W10 works fine. It's the lightened ones that seem to be an issue. Just want to figure out why. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 31, 2023 11:21:16 GMT -5
I think W10 is just straight dodgy. 11 benches better. Better compatibility. My issue is updating w10, then upgrading to w11, seems to take a fist full of time. I'm no pro with the shit obviously. Just sharing my experience which seems different with each w10 install. X500/800/1000 series I can't get running on a fresh W10 install even if you paid me. W11 seemed to be a bit forgiving though. 1080ti, well I don't think there should be any trouble at all, even on bare bones w10, but obviously, this is not the case for Scotty. Bummer man. My brother has a 1080, upgraded him to a 6650XT I sent him. No troubles, games just fine. Hot swap went easy.... W11 though. Straight up W10 works fine. It's the lightened ones that seem to be an issue. Just want to figure out why. I have problems with straight up, uncut windows 10 over here. The 980 is a perfect example. I could only clock the card with the stock bios and precision X 16. Anything else was a wash on my end. Just couldn't seem to get it working right. But I'm not certain if that's an OS issue or other underlying problem. For example the 660 seems to do just fine. That was after I "reset" windows though. Figured to try that this time and that helped. Not saying for you to try it, just trying to example how W10 seems to be bullshit for benchmarking. Where on W11, it seemed to hot swap just about any other vga card and like really no issues at all. But that's a completely fully installed and updated w11 OS. Since I need steam to work for benching and personal reasons, I'm doing full updated OS installs. When I get home, I'll finish the 660 and then upgrade to w11 and see if I can't get the X series cards working. Though these cards don't seem to like the drivers unless windows installed it. Then the benchmarks throw errors because either the card isn't recognized or the driver isn't valid w/e. Sonmetime, I wonder if it's easier to fight getting W7 installed instead..... |
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Post by alex2305 on Jan 15, 2024 6:08:14 GMT -5
Tiny 10 benching OS. No crap at all. Only what you need. If anybodys interested I'll link my OneDrive. I'm interested. Want to compare it with my OS. Maybe I missed things |
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