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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 27, 2022 13:30:57 GMT -5
School me. Just picked up one of these for 10 bucks.
What do I need to know?
Premium flash?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 27, 2022 17:25:56 GMT -5
Yes but it needs to be vmodded otherwise it wont boot unless the cpu can boot at 1v.
The premium has the 0volt jumper and when you put the premium bios on it will only give .9 to 1 volt at boot if the CPU cant boot at that low voltage witch is most of them.
From what I have been reading on DIscord they clock memory Ok try a set of Hypers in there you should be able to do 6-7-5-20 at 2000 with it you could be a late entry into the SPi side of Alex's comp.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 27, 2022 17:33:00 GMT -5
OK. Do we have a link to the mod?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 27, 2022 17:35:42 GMT -5
I think there is one on here I probably wouldnt worry about the Vdroop part though I killed one a while ago was going to do the same thing hate soldering to small capacitors.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 27, 2022 17:49:26 GMT -5
If you look at the Vcore mod you only have to solder the one side of the trimmer to the resistor you can use a ground anywhere doesnt have to be at the capacitor in the vmod pic.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 27, 2022 17:54:04 GMT -5
If you look at the Vcore mod you only have to solder the one side of the trimmer to the resistor you can use a ground anywhere doesnt have to be at the capacitor in the vmod pic. Right on.  |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 27, 2022 17:55:03 GMT -5
Is there any advantage to the Premium bios?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 27, 2022 18:03:40 GMT -5
Supposed to clock better I tried it a long time ago but ran into the problem it wouldnt boot because of too low CPU voltage.
Then I tried the vmod recently and the vdroop mod buggered up the capacitor then came up with the idea of putting a epower on it but the circuitry around the controller has to do with GTL's and after wiping out all the components with the hotair tool and realising this gave up on it.
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Post by Aleslammer on Dec 28, 2022 4:57:33 GMT -5
Thought I bricked mine, same as Pete. Bin a few low voltage Xeons not that hard to find a 1.0v- chip in case you need to flash back. Never used Hypers everything thing I posted with it was with Crucials. Personally think the X48 versions are just flat out better than X38.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 28, 2022 8:30:30 GMT -5
Personally think the X48 versions are just flat out better than X38. I figured as much but for the price, it's better than my P5QC. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 28, 2022 14:56:52 GMT -5
It should go alright memory wise it isnt going to be no premium as far as CPU clocks go but other than that it should be Ok.
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Post by dr4g00n on Dec 29, 2022 12:59:12 GMT -5
The Premium bios works great for single's & dual's but if your planning on running quad's stick with the deluxe bios. Premium bios has some kind of issue with OCP or something with quads, my QX9650 won't even boot to windows on it @ 1.3V.
As a heads up, the VCore in the bios is the wrong scale because the premium has more voltage range than the deluxe. Eg 1.6V set = 1.3V or so. A Vcore display is very useful.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2022 13:11:13 GMT -5
The Premium bios works great for single's & dual's but if your planning on running quad's stick with the deluxe bios. Premium bios has some kind of issue with OCP or something with quads, my QX9650 won't even boot to windows on it @ 1.3V. As a heads up, the VCore in the bios is the wrong scale because the premium has more voltage range than the deluxe. Eg 1.6V set = 1.3V or so. A Vcore display is very useful. Thanks for that info. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 29, 2022 14:19:01 GMT -5
Board is dead as a doornail.  No post codes, no beep codes, just sits and spins. That sucks. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 29, 2022 16:23:16 GMT -5
Flash the bios you have a programmer ya never know use a proper deluxe bios.
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Post by george on Dec 29, 2022 19:48:52 GMT -5
Not familiar of that board, just thinking if it has been "abused" before, then it could be anything. Does not sound good if it does not even give a beep or a green LED. Guess you began with cardboard build approach. But if it has been BIOS flashed to "death" by previous owner, who knows, programmer likely needed.
But a tip(you know all this), check the CPU socket and other board connectors, could be just a short somewhere, since it does not pick up on power.
Edit: had an issue with a MSI Ryzen board, it was just that one of the power connector on the board did not make proper contact. Fixed it, but then it was an issue with the BIOS compatibility with certain CPU's. A couple hoops had to do to figure it out.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 30, 2022 14:33:25 GMT -5
Flashed bios, same deal. Acts like CPU gets no power.
Going in the bin. I only paid 10 bucks for it and it came with a E8600 in it so...........
No huge loss. Just a little disappointed.
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Post by austin86 on Dec 30, 2022 15:04:10 GMT -5
I had a few of them over the years, good board if your not benching or pushing clocks aggressively. But every one I pushed hard died and it was always a no post kind of thing. No pop, no bang. They all just pulled a ABit and quit posting.
Boards are about $1.85 an pound, and the copper heat sinks are good money too. Around February copper is suppose to go way up.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 30, 2022 17:35:03 GMT -5
Got a box full.  |
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Post by george on Dec 30, 2022 17:56:35 GMT -5
^^well, it happens. What might be the next board to try out. I have not been at TPU for a while since had other things to attend to. Are you on intel or AMD for the next try?
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 31, 2022 8:53:09 GMT -5
Intel. Gonna set up this 9900K on Maximus X.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 31, 2022 19:23:46 GMT -5
That should go good.  Are you going to try that GTX260 in it? |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 1, 2023 8:56:27 GMT -5
That should go good. Are you going to try that GTX260 in it? That's the idea.  |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 1, 2023 18:33:16 GMT -5
That will do you proud.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jan 2, 2023 11:34:36 GMT -5
Board is dead as a doornail. No post codes, no beep codes, just sits and spins. That sucks. You using one of those pci debug cards? Usually theyre marketed as pc analyzer I assume 00? Does the cpu get hot or does it just stay cold? If its hot vrms working, if its cold vrms dead Bought board as untested or broken? Physical defects/damage? And have you tried a diff cpu? I only have extremely basic service methods but for the boards i usually buy (post but odd issues like restarts, freezes. Dead but known chronology, usually ones that havent been used for a long time) theyre usually sufficient, aside from that one board with a persistent issue or bad luck do you know the chronology of this board? Like not used for a long time or last time it was working or used if the board has worked in the past but hasnt been used for a long time its likely just dirty and spraying the socket with IPA should get it to start rolling codes and hopefully post. if that doesnt work you just take off all heatsinks and cmos battery, discharge the board (cmos clear, short powerbutton 2 mins each), and run some water over it to completely soak it and then dunk in a bucket of water, an ultrasonic cleaner, or a dishwasher with no detergent for an hour or 2 and leave to dry for 1-2 days depending on climate (here in indo it only takes a day). If soaking the crap out of the thing with water doesnt work yea idk what else to do cause my basic ass methods only cover cleaning the board and at this point i just give up Though id inspect the northbridge to see if its chipped just to avoid wasting time, its effectively dead without a way to swap northbridge if the things chipped. Got a crappy p43 neo with chipped nb that would be working if it wasnt for the chipped nb. And a rework station is still somewhat far away when i already need like 50$+ worth of extra equipment to accompany it (hot air station, solder station, buncha stencils, etc.) |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2023 18:21:33 GMT -5
Boards that dont do anything not even the CPU fan spins up when the power button is pressed are generally dead southbridge the powerbutton signal goes straight into the southbridge.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2023 18:42:08 GMT -5
I am now interested in how Scott is going with this 9900k on water he should be looking at 5.3 chiller 5.8 probably.
Speed is not needed with Tropics its all GPU like heaven and card memory speed is important.
Tristan I thought you might show up in this GTX260 challenge being a discorder
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Post by MachineLearning on Jan 2, 2023 18:57:36 GMT -5
I am now interested in how Scott is going with this 9900k on water he should be looking at 5.3 chiller 5.8 probably. Speed is not needed with Tropics its all GPU like heaven and card memory speed is important. Tristan I thought you might show up in this GTX260 challenge being a discorder Also looking forward to seeing Scotty's 9900K. Honestly, I forgot about the GTX 260 comp. Usually don't love doing 3D but putting tons of energy into one bench is always fun. Will throw my BFG in the ring at some point, thanks for the reminder. |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 2, 2023 20:24:43 GMT -5
I will start a thread about the GTX260 what mods I am using and what settings for inspector I am buying a portable air cond for my benching room at the moment cant keep up with these european fellas benching at 30C ambient I am going to kill the card I will be back in the lead as soon as I get that running. |
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Post by MachineLearning on Jan 2, 2023 20:42:57 GMT -5
I will start a thread about the GTX260 what mods I am using and what settings for inspector I am buying a portable air cond for my benching room at the moment cant keep up with these european fellas benching at 30C ambient I am going to kill the card I will be back in the lead as soon as I get that running. Go get 'em I'll certainly copy your SW settings, but probably won't do any hard mods for the comp. |
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