mel0n
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Post by mel0n on Sept 5, 2022 20:09:43 GMT -5
I'm getting into AMD overclocking with my Athlon 64 6000+ (125w revision with 2mb L2), used in a GA-M51GM board with 2x1gb OCZ Platinum.
Using the Gigabyte OC software for the board, what should I start bumping up? I've gotten the FSB up 10% stably, and it's made a noticeable improvement on clock speed, what should I touch next?
I'm using a stock cooler, but plan to upgrade to something better in the future.
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Post by Bones on Sept 5, 2022 20:18:40 GMT -5
I'm getting into AMD overclocking with my Athlon 64 6000+ (125w revision with 2mb L2), used in a GA-M51GM board with 2x1gb OCZ Platinum. Using the Gigabyte OC software for the board, what should I start bumping up? I've gotten the FSB up 10% stably, and it's made a noticeable improvement on clock speed, what should I touch next? I'm using a stock cooler, but plan to upgrade to something better in the future. You're off to a good start but OC'ing via the BIOS is more reliable than using software to do it. Doesn't mean you can't use software, actually we use such all the time so go with it however you want. For now just keep creeping up your bus until instability sets in, that's your cue to bump up voltage and try again. I believe you already know that board can only take you but so far, you'll need a better board for some real OC'ing results but the point here is to see what you can get with what you've got. That chip will run warm so watch load temps as you go. |
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Post by mel0n on Sept 5, 2022 20:28:14 GMT -5
I'm getting into AMD overclocking with my Athlon 64 6000+ (125w revision with 2mb L2), used in a GA-M51GM board with 2x1gb OCZ Platinum. Using the Gigabyte OC software for the board, what should I start bumping up? I've gotten the FSB up 10% stably, and it's made a noticeable improvement on clock speed, what should I touch next? I'm using a stock cooler, but plan to upgrade to something better in the future. You're off to a good start but OC'ing via the BIOS is more reliable than using software to do it. Doesn't mean you can't use software, actually we use such all the time so go with it however you want. For now just keep creeping up your bus until instability sets in, that's your cue to bump up voltage and try again. I believe you already know that board can only take you but so far, you'll need a better board for some real OC'ing results but the point here is to see what you can get with what you've got. That chip will run warm so watch load temps as you go. I don't think the board has OC settings in BIOS, it all has to be through EasyTune 5, which also happens to be the coolest yet most inconvenient window shape ever  Yeah, the board can only take me so far - it's not the best. Although I was able to get a 3200+ to 2.6 ghz on all 1 cores on this board, which made it slightly less offensive to use. Thanks for the voltage rec, I'll try a bit of that. For a Tdie max of 70c IIRC on a 125w chip, it's been a bit of a struggle keeping it cool under heavy loads... |
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Post by Bones on Sept 5, 2022 20:58:45 GMT -5
That utility works fine, I have it for one of my boards and it's never failed to do it's job.
However what adjustments you can do in the BIOS will set things up without having to worry if the software will do it or not - The software itself, while good can't adjust everything for you like RAM dividers for instance.
At least what I've got doesn't.
BTW a Gigabyte board can have hidden settings, accessed by pressing F1 + CTRL to reveal them when on the opening page of the BIOS.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Sept 5, 2022 21:05:16 GMT -5
I used Easy tune from my phone with my 1366 board. pretty cool. just sit back and oc.
That will be the limiter here.
If it's a Windsor core, it has a higher chance of clocking better. The Brisbane seemed hit or miss.
Decent water loop, probably nab 3.6ghz 1.65v on a Windsor.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Sept 5, 2022 21:54:59 GMT -5
As already mentioned, play around with whatever you CAN in BIOS first obviously. I just checked the manual for the board, it appears there's little to nothing in there. Also, you mentioned stock cooler.....you might want to look around local e-waste places, local PC shops, etc, and see if you can nab one of the stock copper heatpipe coolers that came on Phenom II's, FX's, and even Opterons back in the day if you don't have the stock copper heatpipe cooler already. Those copper heatpipe coolers, for being stock....actually do a great job. Best "budget" air cooler you can find for the clip on AMD sockets. To be honest though, of course as mentioned, your board is absolutely going to be the limiting factor here regardless being its a lower end Nvidia GeForce 6100 chipset motherboard. Could be worse though, you could have an OEM board or something. At least that board has SOME overclocking features.  I am wondering though, maybe stupidly....but I wonder if anybody has ever done a modified BIOS for that board? Obviously it has SOME overclocking features as it supports EasyTune5, and actually recommends it. I'm curious if CNTRL + F1 yields anything, or if a modified BIOS might allow some actual adjustments in BIOS. Idk, just thinking aloud (on text) here...... EDIT: Yes, YES!! Hit CNTRL + F1 in BIOS mate! Seems they DO have hidden OC features in the BIOS on that board!!! www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gigabyte-ga-m51gm-s2g-overclocking.35404/ |
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Post by Bones on Sept 5, 2022 23:13:46 GMT -5
Yep - Alot of Gigabytes have that feature.
I believe the actual key combination is CTRL+F1 but doesn't matter, if it works you'll have access to what hidden and it may help.
Excellent suggestion Pio!
A standard heatpipe cooler works for most anything that board may be capable of making it do plus they are cheap, if not free to get - Depending on where you find them of course.
Check back and post up as you make progress with it.
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Post by mel0n on Sept 7, 2022 18:31:51 GMT -5
Found out that EasyTune 5 wasn't actually doing anything, lol. Noticed benchmarks were within 5% performance no matter how high I cranked FSB in the program. Opened HWInfo and saw that the speed was still 3013mhz no matter what I set it to in EasyTune... but I can confirm that ctrl+F1 does indeed unlock those OC BIOS options (Advanced CHipset Features, as it is called), and I've been bumping up the FSB steadily. Already +28CB in Cinebench 2003, hope for more!
Edit: now up to +100 CB, +20mhz FSB in BIOS and it's taking it like a champ, at this point it is clocking higher on all-core than the Xeon in my workstation
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Post by pioneerisloud on Sept 7, 2022 20:00:25 GMT -5
Found out that EasyTune 5 wasn't actually doing anything, lol. Noticed benchmarks were within 5% performance no matter how high I cranked FSB in the program. Opened HWInfo and saw that the speed was still 3013mhz no matter what I set it to in EasyTune... but I can confirm that ctrl+F1 does indeed unlock those OC BIOS options (Advanced CHipset Features, as it is called), and I've been bumping up the FSB steadily. Already +28CB in Cinebench 2003, hope for more! Edit: now up to +100 CB, +20mhz FSB in BIOS and it's taking it like a champ, at this point it is clocking higher on all-core than the Xeon in my workstation Dunno if you're going for stability or benching, or what your experience is with overclocking. But check out CPUz and watch your other frequencies as well. RAM frequency has changed, HT Link as well. As frequency goes up (on anything), you'll either need to give it more voltage or loosen memory timings (for RAM), or lower RAM speed. Same with the HT Link, it'll need more voltage or a lowered multiplier to lower the speed back down too. At 220MHz, its kind of a hit / miss type situation. If you have good components, they'll likely be fine and stable where you're at. 220 x 15 is 3.3GHz, that's probably not a stretch for stock vcore on a x2 6000+. 1100MHz HT Link is nearing the limits, but should be fine. DDR2-880 (assuming 800 sticks) is likely also fine, but you MIGHT find you need to loosen timings a tad. But you're getting near the point where other things will NEED to be tweaked to continue. Just wanted to share, just in case. Knowledge is important when you're doing things like this. Honestly, a 10% overclock with such a "bad" motherboard, and 3.3GHz anyway on a K8 dual core isn't bad at all. Those x2 6000's tended to clock decently, but still. When I rocked K8 back in the day, my limit on my setup was right at around 3GHz. I'm glad the CNTRL + F1 trick worked out well in your favor!  |
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Post by Bones on Sept 8, 2022 1:43:06 GMT -5
Saw your post "Over there" and can say use a lower CPU multiplier to go higher on the bus.
That gets the chipset going faster and your RAM will pickup too, as long as it's not topped out already.
Default for your chip is 15x, try a few of the lower multipliers and see if it doesn't wind up doing even better, even if you have to use a RAM divider along the way.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Sept 8, 2022 17:10:05 GMT -5
See if some of these settings help you out. Also, AMD Overdrive is the goto software over Easytune. Link to my OneDrive for AOD. C&P the entire link into your browser. 1drv.ms/u/s!Akv2fO-y-lM7jAPH3eJrfHPdxXAA?e=acBx99  |
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