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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 13, 2022 21:20:59 GMT -5
Hope to see some of you guys there. 15 days till start, if you recommend changes such as cooling or something to add; please throw it at me.
Enjoy!
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Post by ground on May 14, 2022 18:09:31 GMT -5
No hardware restrictions means ES memory is fair game? I got a pair of 5100c19 Crucial ES I've been waiting to push properly  |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 14, 2022 20:47:19 GMT -5
No hardware restrictions means ES memory is fair game? I got a pair of 5100c19 Crucial ES I've been waiting to push properly  Sure it's fair game. Not always do ES perform better than end products. So yes, have at it. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 21, 2022 21:50:17 GMT -5
Last updated the board 2019. I see there's a few more Ill be trying specifically for this comp!
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Post by georgekokovinis on May 23, 2022 16:20:14 GMT -5
Very difficult comp.
To achieve very high mem frequency, both mem stick and IMC have to go under cold.
Serious cold.
Extremely few benchers are qualified to do this in the entire HWBOT.
I would like to advise that serious dangers are involved in such experiments and a ton of variables exist that not only can affect the score but also lead to disaster.
I would suggest to find something more popular to do for June, and less dangerous.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 23, 2022 18:35:11 GMT -5
Its something that amazes me how they freeze them and condensation dont get into the slots.
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Post by georgekokovinis on May 23, 2022 18:51:28 GMT -5
Its something that amazes me how they freeze them and condensation dont get into the slots. It gets into the slots. They are insulated. OGS has told me that these setups, after a few runs, are useless and better be sold for next to nothing. OFC these guys do not care because HW is sponsored. They have nothing to lose. For us, such a comp might not be the best idea. Just my 2 cents. |
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Post by Bones on May 23, 2022 20:54:07 GMT -5
Its something that amazes me how they freeze them and condensation dont get into the slots. It gets into the slots. They are insulated. OGS has told me that these setups, after a few runs, are useless and better be sold for next to nothing. OFC these guys do not care because HW is sponsored. They have nothing to lose. For us, such a comp might not be the best idea. Just my 2 cents. Simple solution would be to have a ambient class and extreme class. If you wanna freeze it, go ahead... And if you want to just compete that's good too but know if going extreme all the risk is on you. I do have a way to freeze sticks and it's fine overall but nothing is perfect either. It's a one-shot run and done setup meaning you have to redo it everytime, if you ever pop the sticks out you'll need to redo the setup but then again CPU's are like that too. However for most of us here an ambient comp is what to go for and just leave it at that. Hopefully DDR4 and 5 will have their own classes apart from each other. |
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Post by MachineLearning on May 23, 2022 21:50:43 GMT -5
My initial opinion is that there should not be a cash prize for this competition.
I believe that everyone here who overclocks, does it out of love. Cash should not be the motivator for this comp. But I do think it would be cool to have applicable hardware as a prize, such as a high-potential / high-bin D4 or D5 kit.
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Post by georgekokovinis on May 24, 2022 3:13:07 GMT -5
My initial opinion is that there should not be a cash prize for this competition. I believe that everyone here who overclocks, does it out of love. Cash should not be the motivator for this comp. But I do think it would be cool to have applicable hardware as a prize, such as a high-potential / high-bin D4 or D5 kit. Provided/paid by who ? We are a non sponsored Team. No member of this Team is officially sponsored. We are only making suggestions here to help Jon ( Shrimprime ) decide. Jon has some leftover $$$ from a previous comp. It is correct that he wants to give a prize. He will take the final decisions. |
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Post by MachineLearning on May 24, 2022 3:56:56 GMT -5
My initial opinion is that there should not be a cash prize for this competition. I believe that everyone here who overclocks, does it out of love. Cash should not be the motivator for this comp. But I do think it would be cool to have applicable hardware as a prize, such as a high-potential / high-bin D4 or D5 kit. Provided/paid by who ? We are a non sponsored Team. No member of this Team is officially sponsored. We are only making suggestions here to help Jon ( Shrimprime ) decide. Jon has some leftover $$$ from a previous comp. It is correct that he wants to give a prize. He will take the final decisions. I was assuming that the competition funds could go to such a hardware prize, assuming the donors allowed for it and Jon also wanted to. I completely respect his decision for a cash prize, I only wished to give my perspective. I agree that it's correct for him to do so - he's going through the massive effort of organizing it in the first place. His comp, his rules. I'll be entering the competition regardless of what the prize is. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on May 24, 2022 4:08:03 GMT -5
Provided/paid by who ? We are a non sponsored Team. No member of this Team is officially sponsored. We are only making suggestions here to help Jon ( Shrimprime ) decide. Jon has some leftover $$$ from a previous comp. It is correct that he wants to give a prize. He will take the final decisions. I was assuming that the competition funds could go to such a hardware prize, assuming the donors allowed for it and Jon also wanted to. I completely respect his decision for a cash prize, I only wished to give my perspective. I agree that it's correct for him to do so - he's going through the massive effort of organizing it in the first place. His comp, his rules. I'll be entering the competition regardless of what the prize is. Let me explain some thing, because you are fairly new here. This Team operates under specific internal structure. Jon, being the Global Moderator, is responsible to organize and take care of issues of the forums. It is not his comp. And it is not his rules. Suggestions are always welcome and taken into serious consideration. But, it is his final decision. |
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Post by MachineLearning on May 24, 2022 4:27:12 GMT -5
I was assuming that the competition funds could go to such a hardware prize, assuming the donors allowed for it and Jon also wanted to. I completely respect his decision for a cash prize, I only wished to give my perspective. I agree that it's correct for him to do so - he's going through the massive effort of organizing it in the first place. His comp, his rules. I'll be entering the competition regardless of what the prize is. Let me explain some thing, because you are fairly new here. This Team operates under specific internal structure. Jon, being the Global Moderator, is responsible to organize and take care of issues of the forums. It is not his comp. And it is not his rules. Suggestions are always welcome and taken into serious consideration. But, it is his final decision. I understand now. I appreciate you explaining it to me. As I said before, I will of course respect his final decision. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 24, 2022 6:36:36 GMT -5
The cash is easiest to distribute. It will make it to country of origin fastest and easiest. 50$ is MillrKillRs and the other 50$ is from myself. george, we can amend the bench. I am open minded. Also trying something that most people can try, considering we all have ddr4 or ddr5. What do you suggest please!? |
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Post by georgekokovinis on May 24, 2022 7:35:09 GMT -5
The cash is easiest to distribute. It will make it to country of origin fastest and easiest. 50$ is MillrKillRs and the other 50$ is from myself. george , we can amend the bench. I am open minded. Also trying something that most people can try, considering we all have ddr4 or ddr5. What do you suggest please!?Jon, If we are to stick to mem comp, I do not have much to suggest. Personally, I have no idea how to freeze a mem stick, but even if I had I would not do it for an internal comp which has as a primary target fun. It is seriously dangerous. BTW, Shamino shared a video of cold memory binning. I can't share it. There was a pile of 400 to 500 Corsair sticks with Hynix IC's, naked from heat spreaders, insulated and expecting to be binned ( demolished ). That is stuff done for publicity and rep. To say that XXX with YYY memory hit 10ghz. The only thing I can think off is to stay to ambient mem cooling ( air ). Fans allowed - lol. I would prefer something easier and a lot more popular that EVERYONE can participate. A series of comps, starting from 2 cores, then 4, then six and maybe eight cores. Ambient and cold. Benchmarks can be discussed. Both Intel and AMD ( user's choice ). Now that would draw a lot of participation. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 24, 2022 19:58:45 GMT -5
The cash is easiest to distribute. It will make it to country of origin fastest and easiest. 50$ is MillrKillRs and the other 50$ is from myself. george , we can amend the bench. I am open minded. Also trying something that most people can try, considering we all have ddr4 or ddr5. What do you suggest please!?Jon, If we are to stick to mem comp, I do not have much to suggest. Personally, I have no idea how to freeze a mem stick, but even if I had I would not do it for an internal comp which has as a primary target fun. It is seriously dangerous. BTW, Shamino shared a video of cold memory binning. I can't share it. There was a pile of 400 to 500 Corsair sticks with Hynix IC's, naked from heat spreaders, insulated and expecting to be binned ( demolished ). That is stuff done for publicity and rep. To say that XXX with YYY memory hit 10ghz. The only thing I can think off is to stay to ambient mem cooling ( air ). Fans allowed - lol. I would prefer something easier and a lot more popular that EVERYONE can participate. A series of comps, starting from 2 cores, then 4, then six and maybe eight cores. Ambient and cold. Benchmarks can be discussed. Both Intel and AMD ( user's choice ). Now that would draw a lot of participation. I cannot allocate the time for a series of comps unfortunately. As much as I'd love too!! Can I propose that we select someone that can allocate time for something like this? Any takers? |
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Post by Vinster on May 24, 2022 20:30:17 GMT -5
I would love too, but unfortunately cannot. 6 Month old, a mamma with postpartum and a slight work travel schedule. I'm already pushing my luck
Vin
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Post by Aleslammer on May 25, 2022 6:08:50 GMT -5
I've got plenty of time, but if things go south need a junkyard dog, I hate drama. I'll throw in a $100 on the DDR4 & 5 idea, to end up with $50 1ST DDR4 & 5, ambient & cold. You want to freeze do it, as Bones stated. Don't know if I'll play, if I make AM4 before the comps over I'll sub something up, have new to me AMD CPUs for almost everything but AM2+ and the early FMs and I'm on 754 now, even picked up three big # FX CPUs to see how close to 6K I could get on chilled fluid. My last big grinder session, nothing but TC and comps (here) from now on. Had more than I expected after paying income taxes.  |
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