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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 28, 2021 22:19:24 GMT -5
I am considering a R7 5700G or 5800X unless if the 5800 OEM can be obtained. It's not for me, will run W11, 32GB Ram. Will not be OC'd at this time. I have a XFX R7 250X GHOST, so GPU is no problem. ASUS/ASROCK/BIOSTAR B550 motherboard- middle ground. 550-650W Bronze-Gold PSU-Seasonic Based. SATA Crucial MX 500, or Samsung Pro SSD.
Do the R7s come with a HSF?
I'm just building a stout system to upgrade from a 478 P4 dinosaur Dell Optiplex.
I just received an AXP 3200 400FSB CPU from Mr.Scott (thank you again bro) it has a Date code of Week 24 of 2004 (0424). With my DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B will I have multiplier capable OC or will I need to mod the cpu?
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Post by Bones on Oct 28, 2021 23:11:56 GMT -5
No need to worry about that one.
Although it's superlocked it's also of a good date so it should be capable of clocking up without having to worry about changing multipliers.
I've found with mine over the years 11x is within the sweet spot (Multiplier Range) overall for Socket A, that chip should do well for you.
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 29, 2021 14:37:45 GMT -5
No need to worry about that one. Although it's superlocked it's also of a good date so it should be capable of clocking up without having to worry about changing multipliers. I've found with mine over the years 11x is within the sweet spot (Multiplier Range) overall for Socket A, that chip should do well for you. Any opinions on the R7s? |
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Post by Bones on Oct 29, 2021 15:12:19 GMT -5
The R7's are good and if in the box they should have a HSF to go with them.
The non-X chips are lower wattage if that's of any concern, being 65W vs 95W for the X versions. The 2700X I've got has been a good chip, not using it right now to save on power and running an R3 1200 for that purpose.
Even this chip is good so I don't see you being unhappy with an R7.
The B550's will be good as well but be sure to check and see what chips they support, not all Ryzen chips will run on the 550 chipped boards but a BIOS update/change can fix that.
The 5700G is a lower wattage chip (65W) with onboard graphics so it's clearly a good one to go with here. The 5800X is a 105W chip so the power consumption will be there vs what the 5700G will draw but it's not a bad chip in itself. Personally I'd go with the 5700G between the two since it has all the features and it's a lower wattage chip too.
Even the 5600G isn't a bad one, lower wattage as well and it's cheap vs the other two and the 5600X itself is stated as being 65W's too.
lots of good choices within the Ryzen lineup.
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 29, 2021 17:13:45 GMT -5
Well there is no telling if Andy will release a 6000 series or 7000 series processor with ddr4 on the am-4 socket so I'm trying to build this up as much as I can this system is not for me
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 29, 2021 17:42:18 GMT -5
No need to worry about that one. Although it's superlocked it's also of a good date so it should be capable of clocking up without having to worry about changing multipliers. I've found with mine over the years 11x is within the sweet spot (Multiplier Range) overall for Socket A, that chip should do well for you. Indeed. IQYHA stepping also. Does 2.6 or better. It is multi unlocked downward. 11 or 11.5 is the spot. |
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 29, 2021 21:02:02 GMT -5
No need to worry about that one. Although it's superlocked it's also of a good date so it should be capable of clocking up without having to worry about changing multipliers. I've found with mine over the years 11x is within the sweet spot (Multiplier Range) overall for Socket A, that chip should do well for you. Indeed. IQYHA stepping also. Does 2.6 or better. It is multi unlocked downward. 11 or 11.5 is the spot. Ok so the FSB needs to be hammered from 200 To say 237x11 (474x5.5) Or 227x11.5 (454x5.75). Well at least the color is the same as my 2003 part i crushed die on ðŸ˜. I presume i need LN2 for 2.6? I just noticed the 5700G has half the cache a 5800X does, yet iscosting about the same and is pcie limited to 3 vs 4.0. Ugh looks like I may go for a 5800X if i cant find a 5800 OEM... Oh I am going for a Mid Grade board from 1 of 3 above. GA hasnt been ehere they were with 990FX, MSI hasnt been anything since 790... |
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Post by Bones on Oct 30, 2021 5:48:05 GMT -5
If cache size matters then I too would go for the 5800 if possible.
I've looked around and so far I haven't seen an OEM 5800, only 5800X chips.
Believe it or not, some MSI boards of the AM4 era have improved vs all their AM3/AM3+ stuff.
The one I've got (X570 MEG ACE) is actually a decent little board.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 30, 2021 8:08:08 GMT -5
Indeed. IQYHA stepping also. Does 2.6 or better. It is multi unlocked downward. 11 or 11.5 is the spot. Ok so the FSB needs to be hammered from 200 To say 237x11 (474x5.5) Or 227x11.5 (454x5.75). Well at least the color is the same as my 2003 part i crushed die on ðŸ˜. I presume i need LN2 for 2.6? No LN2, 2.6 was done on high end air @ 1.85v or so. Water will put you in the 2.7-2.8 range @ 1.9-2.0v Cold will put you over 3 gig but the Ultra B has a CBB at anything under 10c so beware. |
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 30, 2021 14:47:48 GMT -5
Thats ok. Its not cost effective to run LN2 for me, so Water cooling is enough. I have some VRM Sinks, just unsure if there were WBs made for all of it. An AXP all components in a water loop would be fun Ok so the FSB needs to be hammered from 200 To say 237x11 (474x5.5) Or 227x11.5 (454x5.75). Well at least the color is the same as my 2003 part i crushed die on ðŸ˜. I presume i need LN2 for 2.6? No LN2, 2.6 was done on high end air @ 1.85v or so. Water will put you in the 2.7-2.8 range @ 1.9-2.0v Cold will put you over 3 gig but the Ultra B has a CBB at anything under 10c so beware. So a Proverbial toaster at 1.85. |
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 30, 2021 14:50:33 GMT -5
I got a 5800X from ebay for 364 total. Now to pick a pretty good 550B board from 1 of the 3. I noticed some AsRocks between 3 had 14 phase. I havent looked at Asus due to their site being mobile unfriendly. If cache size matters then I too would go for the 5800 if possible. I've looked around and so far I haven't seen an OEM 5800, only 5800X chips. Believe it or not, some MSI boards of the AM4 era have improved vs all their AM3/AM3+ stuff. The one I've got (X570 MEG ACE) is actually a decent little board. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 30, 2021 17:49:22 GMT -5
So a Proverbial toaster at 1.85. It's not so bad. A decent high end air cooler can handle it. I had SLK 900 on one @ 2.0v daily, no problem. |
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Post by Bones on Oct 30, 2021 18:30:04 GMT -5
At those speeds what the board can do becomes a real factor instead of it being a simple matter of how much voltage you can stuff the CPU with.
I don't see you going for all that but if you do, that's a big thing to consider.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 31, 2021 9:03:05 GMT -5
FSB under 250 should be no problem at all for the Ultra B. 237 x 11 would be nice. This is your 3200+.  |
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 31, 2021 22:33:37 GMT -5
Its not a derogatory term,i recall back then all those reaching high clocks and vcores calling them toasters. I will review the TR cooler to see what I have it is surely all copper. So a Proverbial toaster at 1.85. It's not so bad. A decent high end air cooler can handle it. I had SLK 900 on one @ 2.0v daily, no problem. |
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 31, 2021 22:34:26 GMT -5
No just doing traditional OCs for air. At those speeds what the board can do becomes a real factor instead of it being a simple matter of how much voltage you can stuff the CPU with. I don't see you going for all that but if you do, that's a big thing to consider. |
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