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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 1, 2021 16:14:19 GMT -5
Catch me if you can comp. Maybe more of a challenge than a competition. Rules. First Person submits CPU-Z Validation Screen shot (Frequency) on ANY platform of choice. Must be an overclocked submission, not running the processors native speeds (including boost clocks = native). The next person to submit must use similar hardware (flexible) to obtain the same frequency or faster. The processor must be limited to the same or less than the cpu previously used. So if the first submission is with a 4800+, the second contender must use this or a lesser cpu. So 5000+ doesn't qualify. (example) If your Dual core is faster than someones quad core in OC, it's valid to use. Must beat frequency only, stay under default make and model target in terms of frequency. Yes server chips are allowed on desktop platforms if supported. It's about the frequency more so than core count. The third contender gets an option. Either pursue the original CPU-Z validation or change the platform. However, the first submission must be beaten to have the option available to switch platforms. Original CPU-Z must be beaten The forth contender must beat the third contenders CPU-Z validation. (does not get platform change option, but must beat the above) The Fifth contender now has the option to beat the previous or change platform. You may go forward or backwards with the platform if you are available to change it. So you can go from 775 to 478 or instead 1150. (as an example). Yes you may switch from AMD to Intel if you are eligible to do so via the above rules. If you guys choose to stick with the original post platform and increase frequency as high as possible may do so. You also have the choice to keep the platform F'ing the next guy whom has to beat your validation in order for platform change. If no one can beat this validation, then the comp ends. Ending date will be the end of October 2021 either way. Cooling restrictions = Chilled water or lesser.CPU-Z validation is not required. If you start with slot 1 for example, a screen shot with the correct date will suffice. Full screen capture please. Who's the winner? The guy that posted the highest frequency for each platform. So more than one of you can be winners. PS - Thought I'd try something outside the box. Beat the guy ahead of you so the guy behind you can change platforms. That's the idea of the "challenge". Or, be mean and keep the same platform and push to the edge and end comp early!  PSS - read it twice, then ask questions please lol. (yes you can cut core count to achieve frequency) (Unlocker chips also welcome) (ES also welcome) (All is welcome) |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 1, 2021 17:22:15 GMT -5
Interesting
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Post by Bones on Oct 1, 2021 17:25:36 GMT -5
Catch me if you can comp. Maybe more of a challenge than a competition. Rules. First Person submits CPU-Z Validation Screen shot (Frequency) on ANY platform of choice. Must be an overclocked submission, not running the processors native speeds (including boost clocks = native). The next person to submit must use similar hardware (flexible) to obtain the same frequency or faster. The processor must be limited to the same or less than the cpu previously used. So if the first submission is with a 4800+, the second contender must use this or a lesser cpu. So 5000+ doesn't qualify. (example) If your Dual core is faster than someones quad core in OC, it's valid to use. Must beat frequency only, stay under default make and model target in terms of frequency. Yes server chips are allowed on desktop platforms if supported. It's about the frequency more so than core count. The third contender gets an option. Either pursue the original CPU-Z validation or change the platform. However, the first submission must be beaten to have the option available to switch platforms. Original CPU-Z must be beaten The forth contender must beat the third contenders CPU-Z validation. (does not get platform change option, but must beat the above) The Fifth contender now has the option to beat the previous or change platform. You may go forward or backwards with the platform if you are available to change it. So you can go from 775 to 478 or instead 1150. (as an example). Yes you may switch from AMD to Intel if you are eligible to do so via the above rules. If you guys choose to stick with the original post platform and increase frequency as high as possible may do so. You also have the choice to keep the platform F'ing the next guy whom has to beat your validation in order for platform change. If no one can beat this validation, then the comp ends. Ending date will be the end of October 2021 either way. No cooling restrictions. CPU-Z validation is not required. If you start with slot 1 for example, a screen shot with the correct date will suffice. Full screen capture please. Who's the winner? The guy that posted the highest frequency for each platform. So more than one of you can be winners. PS - Thought I'd try something outside the box. Beat the guy ahead of you so the guy behind you can change platforms. That's the idea of the "challenge". Or, be mean and keep the same platform and push to the edge and end comp early! PSS - read it twice, then ask questions please lol. (yes you can cut core count to achieve frequency) (Unlocker chips also welcome) (ES also welcome) (All is welcome) Nothing wrong with trying a new twist on benching...... And if I'm able, you already know which chip I've got that will be in it. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Oct 1, 2021 17:50:11 GMT -5
No one can beat 8.3ghz.
I am genuingly asking why even bother.
This is a comp for very few talented LN2 benchers.
Anyway, good luck.
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Post by Vinster on Oct 1, 2021 20:06:37 GMT -5
I like the idea, but there would need to be brackets. Ambient/Air, water and extreme. use a different type of cooling and you change brackets.
Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 1, 2021 20:38:57 GMT -5
No one can beat 8.3ghz. I am genuingly asking why even bother. This is a comp for very few talented LN2 benchers. Anyway, good luck. Well you do have a good point George. What about cooling restriction for this one then?? Would that help cap it off a bit. Air cooling or water cooling only? |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 1, 2021 20:40:08 GMT -5
I like the idea, but there would need to be brackets. Ambient/Air, water and extreme. use a different type of cooling and you change brackets. Vin Just restrict all to air or liquid? Waiting on you and George, we'll set the rule and see if it pans out? |
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Post by Vinster on Oct 1, 2021 22:59:54 GMT -5
George has a point. limiting the cooling would be better on this type of comp.
Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 1, 2021 23:11:40 GMT -5
George has a point. limiting the cooling would be better on this type of comp. Vin Done. Chilled liquid or lesser. No extreme. NO TEC, DICE, LN2 or Helium or liquid oxygen. |
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Post by georgekokovinis on Oct 2, 2021 0:49:31 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply folks, but I was sleeping, lol. Zone difference. My understanding is that LN2 beats everything. On the other hand, limiting cooling excludes notorious benchers from hitting the sky with FX cpus. Maybe we should discuss a bit. OFC, it is John who will decide. The idea is intetesting though |
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Post by Aleslammer on Oct 2, 2021 5:49:40 GMT -5
First sub, let see where it goes Aleslammer - Intel Xeon E3 1280 - 4203 - Chilled water (10c)  Seeing what it took to get BM running in W7 and it wasn't a pleasant experience. Microsoft update hell with the OS I started from. |
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Post by Aleslammer on Oct 10, 2021 8:43:50 GMT -5
I didn't think this would last this long. The Xeon used is a Sandy and would be a I7 2700 if one would of been made. Both the I5 2500 & I7 2600 are eating it for lunch and anything with K on the end is a walk in the park.
We all went cold and fast could of started off with a G440 that would do a 108+ bclk and would be just like FX and LN2. The G440 I have is pretty weak with a little over 105 bclk.
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Post by dr4g00n on Oct 10, 2021 9:12:24 GMT -5
I would try but I don't have any 1155 chips other than an i3 2100 in a dell mobo. I've got 20 different platforms available and you choose one of the few I don't have anything for.  |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 10, 2021 9:48:55 GMT -5
I didn't think this would last this long. The Xeon used is a Sandy and would be a I7 2700 if one would of been made. Both the I5 2500 & I7 2600 are eating it for lunch and anything with K on the end is a walk in the park. We all went cold and fast could of started off with a G440 that would do a 108+ bclk and would be just like FX and LN2. The G440 I have is pretty weak with a little over 105 bclk. I didn't expect a lot of participation for this one. Just after team comp for starters. Interest for it being another. People have lives and other pc goals I suppose. No biggie. Next month we can try again! |
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Post by Vinster on Oct 11, 2021 14:27:37 GMT -5
Sorry Jon, I'm out of town for work. Will be out of town most of this month.
Vin
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Post by PolRoger on Oct 16, 2021 10:23:49 GMT -5
PolRoger - Intel i5-2500K - 4499 - Air  |
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Post by dr4g00n on Oct 16, 2021 17:35:46 GMT -5
No 1155 for me so let's try 775.  Nothing crazy to start off with. DR4G00N - Intel Celeron D 347 - 5012 - Water  |
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Post by PolRoger on Oct 17, 2021 19:14:51 GMT -5
The only somewhat similar type chip that I have to your Celeron D 347 is a "Presler" Pentium 4 D 950 (ES) which is a higher bin/class chip to the Celeron? I installed it in my Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and found the BIOS Vcore voltage limited/capped at 1.4v?? I may see if one of my other LGA 775 boards might allow for higher Vcore adjustments... PolRoger - Intel Pentium 4 D 950 - 4538 - Air  |
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Post by Vinster on Oct 17, 2021 20:24:39 GMT -5
I installed it in my Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and found the BIOS Vcore voltage limited/capped at 1.4v?? I would try a different bios or re-flash the bios again. I don't recall the vcore beiong limited that low, I thought it went to 1.7-1.8v on that board.
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 17, 2021 20:41:54 GMT -5
The only somewhat similar type chip that I have to your Celeron D 347 is a "Presler" Pentium 4 D 950 (ES) which is a higher bin/class chip to the Celeron? I installed it in my Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and found the BIOS Vcore voltage limited/capped at 1.4v?? I may see if one of my other LGA 775 boards might allow for higher Vcore adjustments... PolRoger - Intel Pentium 4 D 950 - 4538 - Air View AttachmentCeleron D and Pentium D are both VRD1.0 whereas the EP45-UD3P-R the VRM is VRD1.1. No voltage adjustment is right try an ASUS board they usually work okay also 200mhz is the lowest frequency for the EP45 so your Cele will probably need a BSEL mod so it boots at 200 not 133 |
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Post by dr4g00n on Oct 18, 2021 10:09:07 GMT -5
The only somewhat similar type chip that I have to your Celeron D 347 is a "Presler" Pentium 4 D 950 (ES) which is a higher bin/class chip to the Celeron? I installed it in my Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and found the BIOS Vcore voltage limited/capped at 1.4v?? I may see if one of my other LGA 775 boards might allow for higher Vcore adjustments... I think it's close enough, Presler is essentially just two P4 CedarMill w/o HT stuck together. In hindsight I probably should've went for something higher tiered instead of the 347. That's certainly weird though with the voltage, never happened for me but I don't have any Gigabyte 775 boards, just Asus. |
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Post by PolRoger on Oct 19, 2021 9:06:28 GMT -5
I'm not really sure how I got the Presler ES chip but I think it came to me as a socket protector for an ASUS X48 motherboard that I bought some years back. Unfortunately that particular MB developed an issue and now it is dead (will not post). The other LGA 775 motherboards that I have on hand are all P45 chipset (Gigabyte and Biostar) and when I attempted to install the Presler they would just hang at boot and fail to post. However newer C2D/C2Q chips will run fine in them. I probably just need an older chipset motherboard something like a 975X or a X38/X48. I've been wanting to get to get another working X48 sample.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 20, 2021 3:34:23 GMT -5
P45 Asus boards should work fine with the presler. The Gigabyte board try shorting Vid 5 and Vid 6 to VSS should give you voltage control I have a picture of whats required I will find it and post it. Edit: Here is the pic showing the the vids joined to VSS you can use conductive pen if you want just make sure there is plenty on there because you are overriding the VID. This is an adaptor not an actual CPU but it works exactly the same way notice that you cant see the notches that are in a 775 CPU thats because they are at the bottom out of the pic that will show you the orientation that the CPU should be in.  |
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Post by PolRoger on Oct 25, 2021 15:04:49 GMT -5
I did some looking into Chemtronics Conductive pens for that mod but decided instead to go ahead and pick up another LGA 775 combo... One with an ASUS P5E Deluxe motherboard that I'm thinking can also be flashed over to an original Rampage Formula BIOS?? It will probably be about a week before it arrives.
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Post by PolRoger on Oct 30, 2021 11:54:56 GMT -5
PolRoger - Intel Pentium 4 D 950 - 5027 - Water (240 Rad in an ice bucket)  |
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