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Post by entilzha on May 19, 2021 12:58:27 GMT -5
I don't know why, but I feel the need to build a decent older rig for the funsies. My research sent me down the rabbit hole of hardware I used to have, and hardware I never had because it was too bloody expensive. Now some of them are pretty rare, namely Abit and DFI Lanparty boards. Now, I have no real need for anything like this because any game I would play has been ported to Steam already, such as the Halo series and older Star Wars games.
Also, I started to look for hardware that was considered budget but interesting, such as the Pentium G3258. 22nm unlocked dual core "anniversary" chip. Dual cores are kind weak, but it should clock nicely and at lower power levels. They're also dirt cheap on Ebay. And being the beginning of the M.2 era, could couple nicely with a Z97 board, maybe even ITX.
The one I'm really trying to find now is the Abit IX48 Max3, also known as the Tigerforce. Gorgeous layout and all copper cooling, with a heatpiped actively cooled Northbridge. I used to have a QX9650 CPU which I sold when I was migrating to Sandy Bridge. Kinda wish I didn't sell it. From what I've gathered, the IX48 was not really sold on US shores, nor can I find a single review of it on any decent hardware site still in existence. Hence the 'unicorn' in the thread title. One popped up on Ebay this week in Europe and I'm keeping a close eye on it. I know it'll be way slower than my trusty 2600k, but who cares really?
Side note 1:
I built a rig for my mother a couple years ago out of my 'scrap' parts based on my old IP35 Pro and GTX460. Got a cheap Q9650 on ebay and a small SSD and she's happy playing Facebook games on it.
Side note 2:
On the Gulftown / LGA1366 / X58 side, what good stuff is still out there? Most of the motherboards I've spotted are not all that attractive. Of course there's the EVGA SR-2, LOL.....
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Post by Aleslammer on May 19, 2021 16:25:10 GMT -5
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Post by georgekokovinis on May 19, 2021 16:36:26 GMT -5
Rex III all the way.
If it is black edition, even better.
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Post by Mr.Scott on May 19, 2021 17:35:01 GMT -5
My P6T7 will do 220's all day long.
Fairly attractive board also.
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Post by freeagent on May 19, 2021 17:55:23 GMT -5
I have an R3F, its decent.. I think I took my x5690 to 215 once or twice. I could also be full of shit, I would have to plug it in again.. I have 217 in my head.. so I will go with that until later..
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 19, 2021 18:29:17 GMT -5
I have an R3F, its decent.. I think I took my x5690 to 215 once or twice. I could also be full of shit, I would have to plug it in again.. I have 217 in my head.. so I will go with that until later.. lol. 217 it is! I can't recall being over 200 when most of all my past, the FSB has been 200 since I mainly used and abused Athlon through FX processors. Only the last couple of years have I enjoyed a locked 100mhz FSB... and I'm not really enjoying it. Reference clocking is so much more fun in my opinion. |
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Post by freeagent on May 19, 2021 20:01:55 GMT -5
Lol.. I know my memory is fading a bit.. time for vitamins. Yeah I agree. X58 was my last "fun" platform.. I left that and dove into Z77 and what a snoozefest that was. Big overclock numbers are cool and all, but not as fun. I wish I could say my Ryzen was as much fun to OC, the most satisfying part with Zen was the memory clocking lol.. at least imo.. again big numbers are cool and all, but yawn.. Ok I could test each core to fully utilize curve optimizer.. but again .. zzzz.. because its only 200MHz  Might get an Intel board and CPU.. Nothing crazy just 6 or maybe 8 cores. |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on May 19, 2021 20:32:54 GMT -5
Lol.. I know my memory is fading a bit.. time for vitamins. Yeah I agree. X58 was my last "fun" platform.. I left that and dove into Z77 and what a snoozefest that was. Big overclock numbers are cool and all, but not as fun. I wish I could say my Ryzen was as much fun to OC, the most satisfying part with Zen was the memory clocking lol.. at least imo.. again big numbers are cool and all, but yawn.. Ok I could test each core to fully utilize curve optimizer.. but again .. zzzz.. because its only 200MHz Might get an Intel board and CPU.. Nothing crazy just 6 or maybe 8 cores. I'm still looking to get a 7700K, but that's going to have to wait. In the next few weeks, I'm going to be busy all day and night. Packing shit. Closing day is the 14th. So I'll be concentrating on OC probably closer to winter time. Hopefully. |
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Post by freeagent on May 19, 2021 20:38:58 GMT -5
Awesome dude, you are the man  Summer is here for the most part now. Basement is warm till the air gets turned on.. I should have some new toys in time for winter.. |
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Post by MetalRacer on May 19, 2021 22:09:25 GMT -5
That Abit x48 is a rare mobo. The Abit IX38 Quad GT is pretty much the same mobo and were sold in the US.
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Post by entilzha on May 19, 2021 23:01:43 GMT -5
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Post by PolRoger on May 20, 2021 0:35:25 GMT -5
The one I'm really trying to find now is the Abit IX48 Max3, also known as the Tigerforce. Gorgeous layout and all copper cooling, with a heatpiped actively cooled Northbridge. I used to have a QX9650 CPU which I sold when I was migrating to Sandy Bridge. Kinda wish I didn't sell it. From what I've gathered, the IX48 was not really sold on US shores, nor can I find a single review of it on any decent hardware site still in existence. Hence the 'unicorn' in the thread title. One popped up on Ebay this week in Europe and I'm keeping a close eye on it. I know it'll be way slower than my trusty 2600k, but who cares really? I've never seen one of those boards here in the States... Its a DDR3 board with a digital (5 phase) powered VRM. The Abit X38 boards are DDR2. I'm betting this board on the secondary market would be pricey and then there would be the additional cost of international shipping. Pretty much all the good enthusiast class LGA 775 "DDR3" boards are getting hard to find now and rather expensive. Just try and find an original ASUS REX! www.techpowerup.com/45003/abit-unveils-ix48-max-motherboard-based-on-intels-x48-chipsetSome other LGA 775 DDR3: ASUS Rampage Extreme (REX) X48 ASUS P5E3 Premium Wifi AP X48 ASUS Maximus Extreme X38 ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi AP X38 ASUS P5E3 Deluxe X38 Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 X48 Gigabyte GA-X38T-DQ6 X38 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-EXTREME P45 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-USB3P P45 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P P45 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R P45 MSI X48C Platinum (DDR3 and DDR2 slots) X48 MSI X38 Platinum X38 ASRock X48TurboTwins-WiFi (DDR3 and DDR2 slots) X48 ASRock P45TurboTwins2000 (DDR3 and DDR2 slots) P45 ECS X48T-A Black X48 Intel DX48BT2 Bonetrail 2 X48 Intel DX38BT Bonetrail X38 EVGA Nvidia Nforce 790i SLI FTW XFX Nvidia Nforce 790i Ultra SLI |
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Post by Bones on May 20, 2021 5:48:51 GMT -5
The one I'm really trying to find now is the Abit IX48 Max3, also known as the Tigerforce. Gorgeous layout and all copper cooling, with a heatpiped actively cooled Northbridge. I used to have a QX9650 CPU which I sold when I was migrating to Sandy Bridge. Kinda wish I didn't sell it. From what I've gathered, the IX48 was not really sold on US shores, nor can I find a single review of it on any decent hardware site still in existence. Hence the 'unicorn' in the thread title. One popped up on Ebay this week in Europe and I'm keeping a close eye on it. I know it'll be way slower than my trusty 2600k, but who cares really? I've never seen one of those boards here in the States... Its a DDR3 board with a digital (5 phase) powered VRM. The Abit X38 boards are DDR2. I'm betting this board on the secondary market would be pricey and then there would be the additional cost of international shipping. Pretty much all the good enthusiast class LGA 775 "DDR3" boards are getting hard to find now and rather expensive. Just try and find an original ASUS REX!www.techpowerup.com/45003/abit-unveils-ix48-max-motherboard-based-on-intels-x48-chipsetSome other LGA 775 DDR3: ASUS Rampage Extreme (REX) X48 ASUS P5E3 Premium Wifi AP X48 ASUS Maximus Extreme X38 ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi AP X38 ASUS P5E3 Deluxe X38 Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 X48 Gigabyte GA-X38T-DQ6 X38 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-EXTREME P45 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-USB3P P45 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3P P45 Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R P45 MSI X48C Platinum (DDR3 and DDR2 slots) X48 MSI X38 Platinum X38 ASRock X48TurboTwins-WiFi (DDR3 and DDR2 slots) X48 ASRock P45TurboTwins2000 (DDR3 and DDR2 slots) P45 ECS X48T-A Black X48 Intel DX48BT2 Bonetrail 2 X48 Intel DX38BT Bonetrail X38 EVGA Nvidia Nforce 790i SLI FTW XFX Nvidia Nforce 790i Ultra SLI I sold the one I had late last year along with an assortment of chips, I loved that board but personal circumstances made it happen. However I know it's in good hands. |
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Post by PolRoger on May 20, 2021 7:51:18 GMT -5
I've never seen one of those boards here in the States... Its a DDR3 board with a digital (5 phase) powered VRM. The Abit X38 boards are DDR2. I'm betting this board on the secondary market would be pricey and then there would be the additional cost of international shipping. Pretty much all the good enthusiast class LGA 775 "DDR3" boards are getting hard to find now and rather expensive. Just try and find an original ASUS REX!I sold the one I had late last year along with an assortment of chips, I loved that board but personal circumstances made it happen. However I know it's in good hands. You had and Abit X48? Or did you sell a REX and some 775 chips? I bought a REX from Gautam quite some years back over on OCF. He was selling three... I got one and the other two sold on HWBOT. Awesome motherboard... It ran fine for a while but later the NB chip started running hot even while sitting at idle with BIOS defaults. Eventually the board stopped posting into BIOS.  I tested it again recently... Still no go... Just a brief power blip/surge and then nothing. I'd still like to get another one. Or perhaps a P5E3 Premium or a Maximus Extreme. |
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Post by dr4g00n on May 20, 2021 8:51:04 GMT -5
With X58 most of the high end boards are pretty good, just stay away from the more budget boards.
I use an Evga X58 Classified 4-Way SLI or Classified3 myself, other than my particular boards being a bit whack they clock pretty good. My Evga X58 SLI LE on the other hand is pretty bad in comparison.
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Post by entilzha on May 20, 2021 10:09:31 GMT -5
So from my understanding X58 is the first X-series chipset that the CPU directly accessed memory, lessening the need for insane FSB hunting, correct? And even then, people didn't get Sata3 until X79, or USB3 until X99 without third party chips. I never appreciated it at the time, but Intel dragged a bit there I think.
Since DDR3 had such a long lifespan, it looks like the usable speeds doubled from introduction to final iterations before DDR4 came out.
What kind of ram speeds can X38/48/X58 do on DDR3 without a ton of work? I've got some DDR3-2133 sticks with tight timings in my old Sandy Bridge that I could share or repurpose in an X48 system.
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Post by Vinster on May 20, 2021 10:22:44 GMT -5
for x58 in my personal preference of order.
1) Asus REX III
2) EVGA Classified 3 (141-CT-E770-A1) - I have this board
3) Gigabyte X58A-UD3R v2.0 or X58A-UD5 v1.0 - I have both of these boards
I've gotten a few CPU's to just 225 on the boards I own. the classified was able to run xeons server CPU's that have dual QPI where the Gigabyte I believe you have to do a hard mod to make it work. Gigabytes are picky there.
I put the REX III first as I've see the same CPU's run much higher than the boards I own and would love one.. but they command $500+CAD here for them and that's for a beaten one...
if you want basic brute force OC'ing, the Gigabite boards are great.
if you want tweak-ability to get those 5-10 blck more.. then go to the REX or Classified as the settings available in both those boards make Giga's childs play.
Vin
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Post by entilzha on May 20, 2021 10:25:43 GMT -5
I've got a love/hate relationship with my GB's. Nice boards, but bios support and stability have lacked at times.
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Post by dr4g00n on May 20, 2021 10:36:28 GMT -5
for x58 in my personal preference of order. 1) Asus REX III 2) EVGA Classified 3 (141-CT-E770-A1) - I have this board 3) Gigabyte X58A-UD3R v2.0 or X58A-UD5 v1.0 - I have both of these boards I've gotten a few CPU's to just 225 on the boards I own. the classified was able to run xeons server CPU's that have dual QPI where the Gigabyte I believe you have to do a hard mod to make it work. Gigabytes are picky there. I put the REX III first as I've see the same CPU's run much higher than the boards I own and would love one.. but they command $500+CAD here for them and that's for a beaten one... if you want basic brute force OC'ing, the Gigabite boards are great. if you want tweak-ability to get those 5-10 blck more.. then go to the REX or Classified as the settings available in both those boards make Giga's childs play. Vin Your forgetting the X58A-OC which is also one of the best X58 boards although it's just as rare as the R3E. I really liked mine before it crapped out. entilzha With 775 memory speeds are limited by chipset bin mostly, my DDR3 boards stop dead at 1950 no matter what but I've seen some REX's do 2200+. For X58 it's more of the same but with an IMC so you bin CPU's instead of mobo's. I can't really say what the maximum speed is for x58 though since Xeon's max out at a 10x ram multi and my only i7 920 can barely do 2000. |
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Post by Bones on May 20, 2021 11:51:59 GMT -5
I sold the one I had late last year along with an assortment of chips, I loved that board but personal circumstances made it happen. However I know it's in good hands. You had and Abit X48? Or did you sell a REX and some 775 chips? It was a REX with some Wolfdale chips; 8200,8300,8400,8500 and 8600 chips I let go with it and I believe a few others including a Q9550.
Either way I had to let it go so it went bye-bye.
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Post by Vinster on May 20, 2021 13:03:15 GMT -5
for x58 in my personal preference of order. 1) Asus REX III 2) EVGA Classified 3 (141-CT-E770-A1) - I have this board 3) Gigabyte X58A-UD3R v2.0 or X58A-UD5 v1.0 - I have both of these boards I've gotten a few CPU's to just 225 on the boards I own. the classified was able to run xeons server CPU's that have dual QPI where the Gigabyte I believe you have to do a hard mod to make it work. Gigabytes are picky there. I put the REX III first as I've see the same CPU's run much higher than the boards I own and would love one.. but they command $500+CAD here for them and that's for a beaten one... if you want basic brute force OC'ing, the Gigabite boards are great. if you want tweak-ability to get those 5-10 blck more.. then go to the REX or Classified as the settings available in both those boards make Giga's childs play. Vin Your forgetting the X58A-OC which is also one of the best X58 boards although it's just as rare as the R3E. I really liked mine before it crapped out.
I didn't forget about that one. Though you're right, I've seen great results from that board, There are reliability issues with it. I've read a number failures for no known reason on support forums in the past. So I'd never be inclined to get one for the $750+USD they command when you see them on Ebay. Actually I recall seeing some for as low as $300 USD on ebay that were non-working boards... so again, not too appealing of a purchase there.
also comparing to the REX is even more difficult to find.
Vin
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Post by PolRoger on May 20, 2021 15:41:18 GMT -5
What kind of ram speeds can X38/48/X58 do on DDR3 without a ton of work? I've got some DDR3-2133 sticks with tight timings in my old Sandy Bridge that I could share or repurpose in an X48 system. Big difference in my experience running DDR3 on P45/X38/X48 vs. X58. Default 1333 for the LGA 775 boards and then you can start working your way up towards 1600. 1800 and higher speeds start getting hard and can get frustrating. I found having some of the early high voltage sticks to be useful for dialing in overclocks at high bus and memory speeds and testing tighter fsb straps and lower memory performance levels. With X58... 1333 and 1600 are pretty standard but running 1866/2000 on Bloomfields (920) required higher uncore speeds and higher VTT voltages. The Gulftown 6 core cpus (980X) can run higher memory speeds with lower uncore speeds vs. Bloomfields. Here is a link to a "Luumi" Youtube video on binning X48 motherboards. He makes it look easy but it is not really that easy.  |
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Post by entilzha on May 20, 2021 16:34:32 GMT -5
While we have X58s in discussion, Derbauer OC'ing his Rex a few days ago.
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Post by Bones on May 20, 2021 17:05:46 GMT -5
Looks like some of the big boys are getting back into things at the bot.
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Post by entilzha on May 23, 2021 19:15:03 GMT -5
Darned Ebay snipers. Tried to bag the Abit IX48 Max on ebay. Nice combo with a QX9650 and some random memory. Auction ended at 3:30am this morning, so I put in my final price thinking I just might swing a decent bargain and hoping that I'd get lucky. Well, nope! Winner punched in all his bids the exact last minute of the auction. I'm guessing it was a bot, or just someone who was aggressive enough to want it more than I did. Lesson learned: Put in my max amount I'm willing to pay and don't bet on a bargain. I would have paid $250-270 for this before shipping. I'm not a frequent buyer on ebay, so oh well. |
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Post by Mr.Scott on May 24, 2021 17:51:53 GMT -5
Link to a free snipe program. Works pretty good. Only thing that beats it is a paid for program. justsnipe.com/product |
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Jul 6, 2024 18:14:33 GMT -5
 is this the board you are looking for? found it on fb marketplace a few days ago just saved it cause it was interesting and im aware x48 boards are relatively rare and id rather not have the same disaster happen to me where i find an interesting board suddenly want it but now i dont know where the listing is and i cant find it anymore (found a g31 s3g and ignored it, now im looking for one should be easier to voltmod nb vtt vdimm vref and it actually comes with a g31 chipset so i dont have to solder a g31 chipset onto a p31 ds3l or s3g) dunno if i should grab it or not cause i just toy with fsb oc on 775 and i havent done that in awhile thanks to x58 ddr3 2800+ oc shenanigans |
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Post by entilzha on Jul 7, 2024 15:37:50 GMT -5
Yep, that's the board. I gave up on finding one long ago, especially after I learned you can't run SLI on them.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Jul 7, 2024 15:53:52 GMT -5
Happens I have both a rampage III extreme and a Rampage III extreme Black Edition.
They both compliment my selection of HW that I have sworn to never sell ( among other ).
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 7, 2024 16:57:06 GMT -5
I dunno why anyone would want a Abit X48 board if it breaks you probably wont find another and there are much better 775 boards from both Asus Gigabyte that are common
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Summer is here for the most part now. Basement is warm till the air gets turned on.. I should have some new toys in time for winter..
I tested it again recently... Still no go... Just a brief power blip/surge and then nothing. I'd still like to get another one. 
