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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 19, 2021 9:50:56 GMT -5
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Post by Vinster on Mar 19, 2021 10:20:28 GMT -5
Distilled water and some form of glycol would work. you can buy the concentrate from a PC shop online. I use a 30% mix and have not had any issues.
Others here including myself have used Distilled water and 15% mix of motor engine coolant like yellow Prestone and then a few drops of Dawn dish soap as a wetter.
Though I have had a few plastics breakdown with the prestone mix after a few years, I never had a leak, just noticed some rounding of corners on a breakdown and inspect. If I went there again I contemplated on trying the orange Dex cool instead. But have no clue what that would do to the plastics.
you've captured the bit part and that is dissimilar metals within a loop. That will cause issues quickly. and I just found that scenario in one of my resent looks where everything should had been nickle plated, but one temperature sensor is causing an issue.
Vin
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Post by Bones on Mar 19, 2021 15:29:18 GMT -5
You can use a silver "Kill-Coil" for biological control and they are simply a drop in thing. You can find those at Amazon, they have them and they are cheap too.
Drop it in the res - Done.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 19, 2021 15:44:33 GMT -5
Unfortunately a kill coil will not be enough for a loop with aluminum in it. You need an anti corrosive. Automotive anti freeze is the easiest way out. 20% mix with distilled water will do just fine. The anti freeze will cover you on the biocide end also. Also, welcome to Warp 9.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 18:42:37 GMT -5
I use car anti freeze in my Koolance chiller , 4 to 1 ratio with distilled water (good for minus 19). It works a treat and has been for a while. As Mr.Scott said , it will work fine in your loop. Welcome BTW Brings a smile to my face every time I see a new member here . Just got to get you on HWBOT.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 19, 2021 19:50:14 GMT -5
Ya, kill coil is pure silver if it's a copper loop you have hope... I've read that if you take one of those larger silver coins and pop it in your res, in the water flow it would help quite a bit. I've never bothered though.
Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 19, 2021 20:23:53 GMT -5
I don't liquid cool my daily's anymore. Often times I dumped rads in a bucket or retrofit to an evap chiller. Used windshield washer fluid. Liked the blue color too. Now use tap to drain (geothermal) and the waterblock needs regular cleaning from it. But the build up isn't as bad as you'd think. The copper just blackens mostly. Oh and welcome to the forums toxibrokegaming !! |
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Post by Bones on Mar 19, 2021 20:45:49 GMT -5
Unfortunately a kill coil will not be enough for a loop with aluminum in it. You need an anti corrosive. Automotive anti freeze is the easiest way out. 20% mix with distilled water will do just fine. The anti freeze will cover you on the biocide end also. Also, welcome to Warp 9. I was unaware anti-freeze had that effect too. That's good info to know and it does make sense. |
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Post by Vinster on Mar 19, 2021 21:03:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately a kill coil will not be enough for a loop with aluminum in it. You need an anti corrosive. Automotive anti freeze is the easiest way out. 20% mix with distilled water will do just fine. The anti freeze will cover you on the biocide end also. Also, welcome to Warp 9. I was unaware anti-freeze had that effect too. That's good info to know and it does make sense. ya, there is some bi-metal corrosion inhibitor built in for dual metal engines.
Vin
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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 19, 2021 22:54:06 GMT -5
Thank you all for the replies and thanks for inviting me to this place, bones.
What about this HOAT coolants, here he says its good for aluminium parts to prevent oxidation and lasts for years:
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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 20, 2021 4:12:37 GMT -5
I will be getting this HOATS coolant. Should I use an actual car coolant reservoir like the one in this video instead of using plastic soda bottle? |
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Post by Bones on Mar 20, 2021 6:03:42 GMT -5
TBH you can use almost anything for a res as long as you can get it connected to the rest of the system.
May take some custom work but doable I'd think.
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Post by Aleslammer on Mar 20, 2021 7:47:13 GMT -5
Image of my DIY Res. one gallon stainless steel storage container. Can get two 16 oz frozen sport drink bottles in it when needed. It's also my aquarium have a one oz silver bar with a rainbow trout embossed on it, running pure distilled. You'll have to overlook the tubing cheap Home Depot and over five years old.  |
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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 20, 2021 9:00:56 GMT -5
Unfortunately a kill coil will not be enough for a loop with aluminum in it. You need an anti corrosive. Automotive anti freeze is the easiest way out. 20% mix with distilled water will do just fine. The anti freeze will cover you on the biocide end also. Also, welcome to Warp 9. antifreeze I'm buying doesn't say anything about preventing growth. Will it still help with bacteria? |
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 20, 2021 9:06:39 GMT -5
Unfortunately a kill coil will not be enough for a loop with aluminum in it. You need an anti corrosive. Automotive anti freeze is the easiest way out. 20% mix with distilled water will do just fine. The anti freeze will cover you on the biocide end also. Also, welcome to Warp 9. antifreeze I'm buying doesn't say anything about preventing growth. Will it still help with bacteria? Yes. Almost any Glycol based coolant will stop bacteria. Ever see any growth in you car system?  |
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Post by freeagent on Mar 20, 2021 9:12:06 GMT -5
We have windshield washer fluid rated to -40 here.. if you guys need a jug just say the word! Of course our coolant is good for that too.. I don't know if the southern states get the same stuff we do.. I wouldn't think so..
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 20, 2021 9:31:31 GMT -5
We have windshield washer fluid rated to -40 here.. if you guys need a jug just say the word! Of course our coolant is good for that too.. I don't know if the southern states get the same stuff we do.. I wouldn't think so.. I'm just the other side of the lake from you. We have -40 also. Been using it for years in the chiller. Good cheap coolant.  |
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Post by freeagent on Mar 20, 2021 9:38:46 GMT -5
Awesome man!
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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 20, 2021 9:50:26 GMT -5
Any idea what sort of screws and nuts I can use to mount that 40x40mm waterblock to my Rx480?
I will be using a sturdy 4mm acrylic sheet square with holes matching the rx 480 screw slots and then sandwich it to the gpu processor.
I might glue bits of acrylic to prevent the block from moving just to be safe.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 20, 2021 9:55:27 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Nylon hardware for things like that.
Take a trip to your local Lowe's or Home Depot and look through the specialty hardware drawers. iirc, 3mm dia. works good.
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Post by Bones on Mar 20, 2021 9:55:32 GMT -5
We have windshield washer fluid rated to -40 here.. if you guys need a jug just say the word! Of course our coolant is good for that too.. I don't know if the southern states get the same stuff we do.. I wouldn't think so.. If we do it's probrably HARD to find but could probrably be ordered through Autozone or O'Reiley's..... Maybe. I've never bothered to notice before if what we get is the same stuff or not. |
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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 20, 2021 10:02:22 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Nylon hardware for things like that. Take a trip to your local Lowe's or Home Depot and look through the specialty hardware drawers. iirc, 3mm dia. works good. These guys have a lot of different measurement screws, standoffs etc: www.diy-india.com/search?type=product&q=ScrewMaybe I could think better and come up with something once I get the electronic caliper I ordered. |
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Post by Bones on Mar 20, 2021 10:05:57 GMT -5
You probrably could.
The way I did mine was with careful planning, you should have seen it. Had both 2.5 gal res tanks in use and it was overkill to say the least of it but it worked.
I take it though you're wanting it for a more conventional desktop useage, mine was for all-out benchmarking on water.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 20, 2021 10:17:29 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Nylon hardware for things like that. Take a trip to your local Lowe's or Home Depot and look through the specialty hardware drawers. iirc, 3mm dia. works good. These guys have a lot of different measurement screws, standoffs etc: www.diy-india.com/search?type=product&q=ScrewMaybe I could think better and come up with something once I get the electronic caliper I ordered. Probably. Did not know your location. |
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Post by toxibrokegaming on Mar 20, 2021 10:20:21 GMT -5
You probrably could. The way I did mine was with careful planning, you should have seen it. Had both 2.5 gal res tanks in use and it was overkill to say the least of it but it worked. I take it though you're wanting it for a more conventional desktop useage, mine was for all-out benchmarking on water. I was inspired by that outdoor tower of water cooler you did. If I can make this loop work and familiarise myself with watercooling basics and build some knowledge and skill, I'll definitely get into overkill watercooling little by little(already planning on using two 120x360mm radiators for cooling my fx 8350). I found it quite pleasant to look at too. |
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Post by Bones on Mar 20, 2021 10:24:55 GMT -5
Just ask if you need any help, myself or one of the others would be happy to.
BTW if you are from India be sure to get in touch with one of our team members (ksateaaa23), he's from there as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 0:02:19 GMT -5
One thing I am also aware of is condensation.
Go below ambient and hello condensation.
Big problem over here because it gets very hot .
Maybe something to keep an eye on if you ever fancy using the old ice bucket trick , like I do all the time with my rads.
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Post by orl on Mar 23, 2021 8:35:54 GMT -5
OP, make sure the distilled water you get for your loop isn't distilled for drinking! To make distilled water safe for consumption by people they have to add minerals which will help induce galvanic corrosion in your system. Purely distilled water is corrosive in its own right as a true solvent but its usually not a problem if all of your metals are the same inside the loop, it basically just takes what it needs off your metal components to not be so corrosive then runs onward. Otherwise follow all advice above!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 1:12:39 GMT -5
I didn't use the old ice bucket trick on the Radeon 6850 but as you can see , get it colder than ambient and condensation is your worst enemy if you do go below ambient  I have lost a lot of hardware playing with DICE .
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 24, 2021 11:37:17 GMT -5
My Geothermal is about 8-9c during the summer. It seems very rare to have condensation especially if I can keep the dew point low. Running a dehumidifier in the room helps tremendously before running subambient.
I only seal up for condensation when running a TEC or colder.
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