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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 8:24:50 GMT -5
thx pete and that 7 pin plug thing next to the bios chip is easier to see in johans pic is a Download Flash Bios Connector it says in the PDF, what ever that is lol....page 45 on the PDF pete
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 12, 2016 8:32:09 GMT -5
we will just put the clip on he chip itself. Unless we can find out the pinouts for it.
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 8:47:13 GMT -5
is this what you mean pete, NO1 pin starts bottom left of the socket towards the rear of the board
1 - SPI_VCC3 2 - GROUND 3 - SPI_CS0B 4 - SPI_CLK 5 - SPI_MIS0 6 - SPI_MOSI 7 - SPI_HOLD# 8 - BLANK
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 12, 2016 8:55:38 GMT -5
Thats what I mean I will see what I can find out for the programmer and make a cable for it.
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 9:14:18 GMT -5
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 12, 2016 9:29:52 GMT -5
I will see what I can do
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Post by Johan45 on Aug 12, 2016 9:58:37 GMT -5
Looks like yours is different
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Post by georgekokovinis on Aug 12, 2016 10:24:47 GMT -5
Is it possible that you have Shane a bad PSU that sends all these poor boards to Heaven ?
Statistically, in my 25+ years of benching, and after more than 500 motherboards passed thru my hands, NONE, I repeat NONE had a faulty bios chip, none died in my hands and only two were destroyed because of my fault.
There is no diagnostic center as in cars but,
A very good DMM, A good signal generator and an excellent wave analyzer, will provide to the experienced user enough data to narrow down possible faults, which might be a resistor - a capacitor or a whole segment of the circuit fried.
Check your Power supplies first. Not if they turn on. Check if they provide clear sinus current, especially at 3.3V and 5V lines.
Many mishaps dude to be a coincidence.
Good luck.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 12, 2016 10:58:15 GMT -5
Honestly, I've tried a lot of AM2 boards. I've had the best luck with the Gig 790X-UD4P. I too have tryed quite a few AM2 boards from most if not all the big names. Jetway, EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc, etc but like Shane, Gigabyte n I just dont hit it off so well. Could there be any chance even the slightest that even with the code "88" that the DFI board could possibly be repaired? Depending of-course on whats really wrong with it. It was never revealed to me what was actually wrong when you got a code 88. All I know is they never fixed it, they just sent a replacement board.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 12, 2016 17:15:01 GMT -5
I would say 88 is a catastrophic failure of some kind seeing as its a known code like that. I doubt that flashing the bios will fix it. I will flash it though.
Shane have your laptop at the ready. I am just going to use the clip straight on the chip.
I want you to try something loosen the waterblock off so its just lightly clamped down not tight and try to boot it. You might be surprised
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 18:05:44 GMT -5
Looks like yours is different yes it looks to be different johan but thanx heaps for the offer and trying to help
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Post by mrpaco on Aug 12, 2016 18:08:35 GMT -5
I want you to try something loosen the waterblock off so its just lightly clamped down not tight and try to boot it. You might be surprised That I know for a fact worked for me with my dual 940 board.
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Post by mrpaco on Aug 12, 2016 18:09:38 GMT -5
I too have tryed quite a few AM2 boards from most if not all the big names. Jetway, EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc, etc but like Shane, Gigabyte n I just dont hit it off so well. Could there be any chance even the slightest that even with the code "88" that the DFI board could possibly be repaired? Depending of-course on whats really wrong with it. It was never revealed to me what was actually wrong when you got a code 88. All I know is they never fixed it, they just sent a replacement board. Things that make you go "HHmmmm"...
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 18:12:43 GMT -5
Is it possible that you have Shane a bad PSU that sends all these poor boards to Heaven ? Statistically, in my 25+ years of benching, and after more than 500 motherboards passed thru my hands, NONE, I repeat NONE had a faulty bios chip, none died in my hands and only two were destroyed because of my fault. There is no diagnostic center as in cars but, A very good DMM, A good signal generator and an excellent wave analyzer, will provide to the experienced user enough data to narrow down possible faults, which might be a resistor - a capacitor or a whole segment of the circuit fried. Check your Power supplies first. Not if they turn on. Check if they provide clear sinus current, especially at 3.3V and 5V lines. Many mishaps dude to be a coincidence. Good luck. thx george, i had 2 faulty bios chips from asus in the original crossblade ranger, they were changed twice, then i lost dual channel and it turned out to be the socket the psu is an enermax platinum series 1350 watt, i have a psu tester and all the voltages are good, i also have checked the voltages on other boards in the bios hardware monitor and theyre always a bit above the stated volts, i have the psu tester on now and all is reading good, i do have a new evga 1300 watt G2 NOVA i could try as well
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 18:16:15 GMT -5
I would say 88 is a catastrophic failure of some kind seeing as its a known code like that. I doubt that flashing the bios will fix it. I will flash it though. Shane have your laptop at the ready. I am just going to use the clip straight on the chip. I want you to try something loosen the waterblock off so its just lightly clamped down not tight and try to boot it. You might be surprised thats something i havent tried yet pete ill do that too , cheers
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 18:38:53 GMT -5
i dont bloody well beleive it....i loosened off the water block as you said pete to completely loose then just nipped it up and bang it booted into the bios and then into XP windows, ive learnt another lesson today, im going too tight on the water block, this could be my whole boards dying issue, flexing the socket too much and breaking pin and solder contact, what do you guys think ?
its still bloody quirky tho, trying to find that sweet spot for the water block, itll boot sometimes, when it boots i nip the water block up a little, go out of bios or windows and it wont boot again, then repeat the process and itll boot. i might strip it, fill the cpu socket up with metho, then give ot a good air blow out, may have a bit of tim paste or dust or something in pin hole that i didnt see b4
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Post by mrpaco on Aug 12, 2016 20:09:32 GMT -5
Thats great that you figured it out. What I did with my dual-940 so I could still clamp down the water block was take those loose leaf paper hole protectors and stacked 3 where the bolts go in the board and it gave it the perfect spacing. You may need to test if you need to use more or less, but it worked 100%.
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 20:27:17 GMT -5
righto frank thx, the credit goes to pete , he thought of it, but something is still not right, ive just stripped it down and cleaned the socket and ram slots with metho, blew it out good and now its in the sun for a bit, then ill bring it in an put it on top of the heater for an hour or so,
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 12, 2016 20:37:16 GMT -5
Its got a bad solder ball under the socket when you have the right pressure it makes contact. We will talk about solutions tomorrow. I showed you a socket without the cover. The cover needs to be taken off and a reflow. And no bright ideas like sticking it in the bloody oven, that does more harm than good.
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Post by ozz on Aug 12, 2016 20:53:16 GMT -5
Its got a bad solder ball under the socket when you have the right pressure it makes contact. We will talk about solutions tomorrow. I showed you a socket without the cover. The cover needs to be taken off and a reflow. And no bright ideas like sticking it in the bloody oven, that does more harm than good. makes perfect sense now pete, boot sometimes n not others, and no i didnt even think of the oven, ive only ever put 1 motherboard in the oven and that was that MSI 478 socket i found that wouldnt boot as i had nothing to lose with it b4 i got the IC7 MAX3 thx to everyone for all their input, suggestions and help. now we know the issue
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Post by ozz on Aug 14, 2016 7:32:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 14, 2016 7:47:41 GMT -5
Yes. I have all of those.
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Post by ozz on Aug 14, 2016 8:05:45 GMT -5
ok cool scotty, i showed pete what was going on with the board and he ummed and arrd about flashing the bios, coz of the possibility of it not working, so he suggested trying another power supply as george said too so we did and it came good for a bit, then all of a sudden went back to what it was doing so he flashed the bios with 1 of the bioses on the site i just posted, the DL7D202.BIN, it flashed ok but didnt work, now hes gunna backward flash it he said , bit too complicated for me to understand, i actually had contact with a DFI engineer from DFI TECHNICAL SUPPORT some time go when i first got the board, he sent me a bios for it, but i told him it was a DFI LP DK 790FXB M2RS , since ive learnt mine is the M2RSH board and im not sure what the difference is other than mine has the heatsink cooler on the vrm and a heat pipe joining to the NB cooler where the M2RS has seperate heatsinks on both and no joining pipe, coz i noticed the sticker with the number on the 4th card slot and i found the emails i sent him b4, so im gunna email him again and get him to send me the latest bios for it, hes a good guy too and was very helpful with information for me
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Post by ozz on Aug 23, 2016 19:37:37 GMT -5
was lookin around and came across this site and thought maybe helpful, pretty good list, the 790 fxb im nearly 100% sure had the award bios in it pete ......Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG......i remember the 6.00PG www.wimsbios.com/biosupdates/dfi.jsp?start=0
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 23, 2016 19:43:26 GMT -5
was lookin around and came across this site and thought maybe helpful, pretty good list, the 790 fxb im nearly 100% sure had the award bios in it pete ......Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG......i remember the 6.00PG www.wimsbios.com/biosupdates/dfi.jsp?start=0That's one of my last resort sites. Be careful downloading, I've gotten all sorts of nasties from that site.
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Post by ozz on Aug 23, 2016 19:46:27 GMT -5
was lookin around and came across this site and thought maybe helpful, pretty good list, the 790 fxb im nearly 100% sure had the award bios in it pete ......Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG......i remember the 6.00PG www.wimsbios.com/biosupdates/dfi.jsp?start=0That's one of my last resort sites. Be careful downloading, I've gotten all sorts of nasties from that site. scotty , the main reason i posted it is coz i knew you'd know about it
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Post by ozz on Sept 8, 2016 21:14:33 GMT -5
just got an email from the joker at DFI, it appears they no longer have any support for bios for any dfi boards other than industrial, he said that has been the case for years so i found the email from the other guy i spoke to last year Bryant Yang who's left DFI now and that was 15th january last year, so ill see what he says about that lol, (gone for years....bullshit, how did i get it last year then, seems the people at DFI now are just not interested ) i tried the link he originally gave me but it comes up blank so appears DFI has taken down all support other than for industrial stuff, this is what he gave me , can some of you guys try it from over there where you are to see what you get please BIOS 54.64.227.120/DFI-Lanparty/support/MBBiosDownload.jsp?showselectvalue=30LP_DK&selectBiosItemId=539 Driver 54.64.227.120/DFI-Lanparty/support/MBDriverDownload.jsp?selectedDriveritemId=539
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Post by ozz on Sept 8, 2016 22:19:37 GMT -5
a few mins ago and straight from the horses mouth why i cant get anything anymore from them Dear Shane, Sincerely apologized again for the EoL of LANParty series MB. DFI had no longer producing LANParty, the consumer mainboards, and our product-Line had transferred to Industry Mainboard till now. Once the consumer products EoL, the related data only be kept for few years. DFI official web site was no longer keeping it many years ago. The link which Bryant sent to you was the back-up server of DFI web site. This server was shut down at middle of 2015 as my memory. LANParty was an iconic product of Overclocking mainboards. I believe that there are lots of fun or memory for fine-tuning the board to get maximum performance. I’m very sorry that DFI was no longer producing this series and overclocking mainboards. Sorry again for the end of LANPatry and thank you very much for choosing it. Thanks. Joy Huang \ FAE DFI Headquarter
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Sept 9, 2016 3:00:53 GMT -5
Its not surprising they dont produce Overclocking motherboards anymore and its well past its EoL (End of Life) Date. Brands that dont produce boards anymore like DFI or Abit you cant get any sort of downloads anymore. Thats the one good thing about Asus and Gigabyte I can still download Bioses for my Socket 7 boards from both brands and they were produced in 1999.
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Post by ozz on Sept 9, 2016 3:29:21 GMT -5
its a shame tho, i realise theyre EoL but i didnt know they shut the server down as well and im sure if i hadnt of sent the original email from bryant yang for him to see it was only last year im quite sure he wouldnt of even told me that, its certainly made me rethink what boards in the older sockets now as much as the DFI boards are the performers they are, just not sure its even worth the effort if bioses and drivers are that hard to get hold of, if i was DFI and knew the server was going to be shut down i wouldve contacted say bot or wikipedia, even better for eg and donated all the bios and driver files to them for the computer world to share instead of just lockin em up or destroying them or whatever they do with em but im guessin theres prob some corporate law in the patenting section of DFI to stop that
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