Ryzen not getting as cold as intel

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Just got a new board yesterday and I normally Vaseline them to hell and back but this time , decide to use artist eraser to save a trip to the dish washer later on .

What I have found is when it's on single stage , it doesn't seem to get as cold as the Intel CPU's I have Vaselined .

i am not sure if it's because of the artist eraser , what do you guys think ?

Should I go back to messy Vaseline ?

Instead of minus 15 , I am only seeing minus 6 which is a big difference .

It does work well keeping any moisture away but so does Vaseline just less messy .

BTW , I haven't been participating as much as I would have like to lately in the forum but that's about to change .

Look forward to getting to know you all

[Vinster]

What CPU's are you comparing too? 10900k is only 95W where the 5800x is 105W. 10W is a bit of heat I wouldn't want to hold with my fingers...

Vin

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10900k .
I am taking about the off load temps .

Temps on load stay nice and normally below 20.

It's a tiny board as well.

Never seen one this small before.

[Vinster]

Define what you mean by offload temps... Idle Temps?

Vin

[Vinster]

I have noticed that my idle temps on my 5800X with 3x 360mm rads idles at 33 degrees C.. where my 1700x with only 280mm rad idles at 28 degrees C. so I would agree that the 5xxx series is a touch hotter when doing literally nothing...

for that I'm sure there is a c-state that you could play with to drop the vore voltage down based on load, but that usually affect ramp up clocks and causes crashes... (past experience anyway)

Vin

EDIT: and when I did chilled and DICE, I only ever used eraser until I started permanently insulating the board... you're application looks like what I used to do. only 1:1 test you could do would be to pull that off.. do the Vaso and see the difference...

[Bones]

I've noted Ryzen has a CB/CBB similar to other, older AMD chips.
I'm still working out the exact CB/CBB point of mine and it appears to differ from chip to chip but that's also expected.

I suggest dielectric grease instead of vaso, while vaso does work it also creates a big mess.
Dielectric is the best you can use for what you'd use any grease for with cold prep but if you have to use vaso it should be OK.

Prepping the board with LET is probrably your best bet overall for a more permenant cold prep so you don't have to do much everytime. I suggest using the brush on LET, the spray on works too but it's spray on and like a spray it's subject to go any and everywhere if you're not careful.
I did one with LET and then clearcoat, clearcoat alone works but over time will begin to flake off.

I'll have to redo my Sabo one day because of it but I'm also running an Inferno plate to help keep things dry. It will not work properly with anything but LN2, it's too strong to use with any other cooling type but if you ever use LN2 cooling I strongly suggest getting one - Well worth it.

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Thanks for the advice guys , appreciated
Yes , I did mean while it's just sitting at idle .
I am going off vaseline .
It's a pain stripping the board down to go in the dishwaher.

My last KPE spent more time in the dishwasher than the dishes .

I have a kingpin inferno and a few pots .

Just got my ABN so possible to get LN2 now .

Not fussed on DICE , too much condensation and it killed a few of my boards , CPU's and not to mention a few KPE's .

[Bones]

If you were to do a LET prep the only real thing you'd need worry over is the socket.
Be sure to check the condition of the LET each time (Should reamin good for awhile at the very least), make sure the socket is clean and dry and you'll be OK.
If any of the LET starts peeling, just peel off what's coming loose, then brush more on the affected spot to fix and let it dry - Good to go!

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May go back to Vaseline.
Messy but boy, it does the job in spades.

[dr4g00n]

I've always used eraser to insulate PGA boards, never had a problem on chilled water or dice. Since your load temps are good I wouldn't worry too much about it at idle.

You could try to use less eraser, it does conduct heat somewhat so that thick layer may be dissipating the cooling power over more of the board.
I usually go pretty conservative with it, just packing it around the socket to seal it up and then taking small pieces to cover anything nearby. A Paper towel gasket around the cpu is also essential to wick up any moisture.