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Post by Vinster on Nov 11, 2020 15:16:04 GMT -5
Not sure if you've saw this... looks like Intel and EK are working on a TEC setup for the retail market....
EK's Tec
Derbauer showing it off...
Intels Showing of on LTT....
you should have come up with a kit and threw together a patent and these guys would have had to send you royalties...
Vin
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Nov 11, 2020 18:25:19 GMT -5
Uhhh... They claim to be able to handle 320W of heat... While only ever using a max of 200W of power... Just how much radiator space is one going to need to handle such, and on top of all of that, there's the even bigger question of which CPUs it will even handle, since a TEC pulling 200W of power isn't going to be able to constantly provide 200W of cooling...
And all this with the claim of no condensation too, and apparently, by the look of things, no insulation required either.
I also doubt the claims it's limited to a max of 200W of power consumption, because Intel is known for playing numbers games. Also, that's 200W of power consumption on top of everything else pulling from the wall - hope you have a dedicated 20A circuit for this computer you're cooling.
Swiftech had one of these kinds of things years ago, although it didn't have a controller attached, and they eventually killed it off for various reasons.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 12, 2020 18:07:39 GMT -5
Hey Vin thanks! You guys know I love TEC cooling. For now, it's a nifty product. Coupled with the boosting algorithm and some tweaking, it's in a good place.... For an average user turning into enthusiast. As WhiteWulfe mentioned, this kind of thing has been done before. But nothing impressive to give public gamers a nudge to go viral. For US (not just me this time around).... well it's just not for us. Overclockers already know when going enthusiast "extreme" a TEC is not going to cut it. They just don't get cold enough. And at under 0c on the Hot side, going colder brings diminishing returns, a TEC will just only get so cold. So yeah, 200w TEC really is a small figure with an Intel Chip all core manual OC at 5ghz or more.... it's not going to work at all. The TEC will heat soak even given the size of it. The copper cold plate will only slow the heat soaking process.... The controller and design is not for manual overclocking as you see in the videos, there really wasn't any of that going on. It was all dependent on the "boosting". Which is counter productive on Intel having a fucking "Time Limit" of boost duration.... makes this product to me look even less appealing because of the nature that Intel runs their processors with. Boost timer with a TEC.... common. Who are they kidding here??? Not me! BUT, this product is perfect to spark interest into overclocking and then going full blown enthusiast because people are going to take this thing apart and run the TEC without the controller. That will be a different ball game then. They have just taken a step into extreme while you can use this 200w TEC and EASILY cool an AMD 3600X or 5600X and get well actual freezing temps and the need to seal a board up. But I am optimistic. I think it's a GREAT product. Looks to do the job well enough to spark some people into buying it. It obviously works as intended. Even on golden sample Intel processors with likely much higher binning than a standard store bought CPU. The only way we'll know is if they can push this product out and get some gamers using it so we have some actual real data to go by. And I think something like this could spark up people that will look at this thing and go "hmm. how do I get this thing to FREEZE a processor??"" Well VIN, that's where I come in. Beyond the engineer. I'm one of the guys that alters, repairs and changes an engineers product to be better.
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Post by Vinster on Nov 15, 2020 22:15:16 GMT -5
The Plot Thickens... and for what it is.. I call that one a bit of a win
Vin
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Post by Mr.Scott on Nov 16, 2020 19:19:46 GMT -5
I would like 2 of those for my SR-2.
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