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Post by Vinster on Sept 10, 2020 15:20:18 GMT -5
As the title states... who here has used hard tubing? which types have you used. what were the quirks that you ran in to while using it?
I'm starting to plan by 5 year build and I decided a while ago that I was going to use hard tubing as it looks pretty. I've previously used thick wall flex tube as I'm always playing/changing things around. but this rig being a present to myself from my inheritance from my mom I've decided to do this justice and not hack it together and not make it a flavour of the week build. I think I'll be keeping my AM4 1700x rig and use that the testing and hack system...
Now I know there are a lot of Youtube video's out there. but I'm looking for actual experience from people I trust (you guys).
I was thinking a clear tube, I like yellow and will likely us a Distilled water/glycol with yellow dye formula. I've had good luck with this on my rig for 3 years without having it seperate and clump like a automotive coolant mix has in the past.
let me know your thoughts.
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Sept 10, 2020 16:12:40 GMT -5
I have never used hard tubing Vin so I am interested as well.
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Post by Bones on Sept 10, 2020 17:26:45 GMT -5
Wish I could help but I've always used soft hose with my stuff.
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Sept 10, 2020 22:59:06 GMT -5
Haven't used hard tubing. I always wanted to do copper, but it seems Rocket Science, who made nice fittings to work with such isn't making their product anymore...
I kind of prefer soft tubing, due to it being slightly more forgiving. Harder to make it look good, but it's definitely more forgiving in the grand scheme of things...
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Post by Mr.Scott on Sept 11, 2020 15:42:03 GMT -5
Brian (Witchdoctor) did an all copper build. It was fantastic. Said it was a super pain in the ass though.
I will probably never do a hard line build. I fuck with shit too much.
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Post by Vinster on Sept 11, 2020 16:11:24 GMT -5
Brian (Witchdoctor) did an all copper build. It was fantastic. Said it was a super pain in the ass though. I will probably never do a hard line build. I fuck with shit too much. I voted for his build when he entered the Case-King build comp with that PC.. he had even polished the lines... it wasn't fantastic... it was majestic.. and I don't believe he won either.. he dropped off and quit everything not long after creating that build.
too bad Case-King is gone, don't have access to the competition anymore. Can't look up those photo's
Vin
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Post by Mr.Scott on Sept 12, 2020 8:07:34 GMT -5
Brian (Witchdoctor) did an all copper build. It was fantastic. Said it was a super pain in the ass though. I will probably never do a hard line build. I fuck with shit too much. I voted for his build when he entered the Case-King build comp with that PC.. he had even polished the lines... it wasn't fantastic... it was majestic.. and I don't believe he won either.. he dropped off and quit everything not long after creating that build. too bad Case-King is gone, don't have access to the competition anymore. Can't look up those photo's
Vin
I will find the pics. They are on OCF somewhere. I voted for him also.  |
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Post by Vinster on Oct 20, 2020 16:06:05 GMT -5
Parts for my new build have started to be purchased.. I'll reach out to a few of my FB buddies on tubing as I don't want to mess to much with types...
from my recent reading, it seems that PETG is the most forgiving. PVC is tough to bend and Acrylic is brittle and can crack easily.
I'm hoping to avoid the use of 90 degree connectors and have tube bends. So that takes out the use of Corsair's HardLine series. Yes their promo shows bent 90's, but generally not done from what I've seen. Unfortunate as I can get it at a local computer shop, but $35CAD for two 90's and $10/straight compression fitting... like what the hell... I know going in I'll be paying a touch more, but not buying in to tripple+ the cost.
Vin
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Oct 21, 2020 0:07:12 GMT -5
All I know is if you're going to bend tubes, make sure to get a silicon insert to help reduce deformation as you bend. You'll also want a few extra tubes to practice one, as you'll inevitably get a bend almost how you want it, or you'll stretch the tubing.
Having a jig for your bends (even if just as a reference guide) will also be insanely handy to have.
This is just stuff I've read over the years though, not practical experience.
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Post by Vinster on Oct 21, 2020 11:13:28 GMT -5
All I know is if you're going to bend tubes, make sure to get a silicon insert to help reduce deformation as you bend. You'll also want a few extra tubes to practice one, as you'll inevitably get a bend almost how you want it, or you'll stretch the tubing. Having a jig for your bends (even if just as a reference guide) will also be insanely handy to have. This is just stuff I've read over the years though, not practical experience. Yep, was going to do that. Thermaltake and a few other vendors have kits to help. I was looking at one of those..
Vin
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Post by MainFramR on Oct 21, 2020 21:06:36 GMT -5
Mandrels...https://www.amazon.com/Bykski-Cooling-Tubing-Mandrels-Bending/dp/B07GGNM4MG Have to say that I haven't done any hard lines either. I've read petg is good for the job though. Like mr Scott, I fiddle too much to go hard tubing.  |
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Post by Vinster on Oct 22, 2020 19:35:00 GMT -5
Ya, I'm looking at a mandrel kit, comes with 12mmOD inner-tube, and 3pc angle kit...
Americans have amazing pricing... prices out a complete setup from Performance PC... $875 USD, after shipping, exchange rate and duty, I'm looking at $1400.... same type of gear (some items not available in Canada) $1900... just nuts I tell ya...
and I'm not complaining about the cost... I'm complaining about the cost delta between here and there...
Vin
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Post by Vinster on Nov 12, 2020 11:23:23 GMT -5
So I can attest for PETG, using a plumbing pipe reamer is not an appropriate tool to use to debur the end. I've watched a number of videos of guys doing this, but in what I've experienced, I don't recommend it.
as for bending PETG, I'm using EK 12/16mm hard tubing and with my current build, I have been able to easily re-heat full on 180 degree bends, re-straighten and re-bend the opposite direction with minimal distortion. I was extremely impressed with how a re-bend turned out. I figured if it didn't work out it was trash tube so it was worth a shot.
I'm using a proper 12mm inner mandrel and I am also using 90/45/180 degree assisting mandrels. But doing on-the-fly offsets and 90's is pretty yeasy with this tubing.
Vin
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