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Post by george on Feb 19, 2020 14:08:55 GMT -5
ha! nope, it is a Phenom II X4 850. I have a couple of these, and they both unlock L3 without issues. Light benching shows it is just there with Phenom II X4 980 and rivals. Decided the old-timer Athlon 64 X2 3600 in a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum will go for a rest(was not using it anyway). Dug out one of the Phenom II X4 850s that the kids had way back in 2011, paired with an ASUS M4A77T. Just plain air cooling, stock voltage except for the DDR3-1333MHz RAM, now clocked at 1800MHz, 1,65V. Slow old HDD used. Runs well, think I'll use this as my workshop workhorse for now. |
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Post by Vinster on Feb 19, 2020 14:27:33 GMT -5
Wow, Really? Can you post a pic of the top of the CPU?
Vin
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Post by Mr.Scott on Feb 19, 2020 16:17:02 GMT -5
I'd like to see it also. The 850's were all Propus cores I thought.
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Post by george on Feb 19, 2020 16:28:13 GMT -5
Propus it shoud be yes. Think HWinfo64 shows it correctly. Could be the unlocked L3 makes CPU-Z decide it is a Deneb. I do not have the machine on-line atm.
EDIT: fired it up to check hwinfo64, that one says it is Codename Propus. Could be a CPU-Z 'error'.
The 2nd 850 I have reads on the IHS :
HDX850WFK42GM
CACDC AC 1129MPM
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Post by Mr.Scott on Feb 19, 2020 18:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by cbjaust on Feb 20, 2020 1:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by george on Feb 20, 2020 1:58:28 GMT -5
From what I remember, the 8xx Phenom IIs came out a bit later than Denebs initially and were sold as budget chips, in the Propus codename group. Phenom II line was being closed down while FX and FM was being prepared for launch.
I reckoned these 8xx were all Denebs with neutered L3, of which for the most part the L3 was unlock able with a good success rate.
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Post by george on Dec 8, 2020 9:11:33 GMT -5
This rig was equipped with 2x2GB DDR3-1333, OC to 1800, worked fine. Swapped the spinning disc to an SSD. Found another pair of same 2x2GB at home, so I added that, seemed to work, but a couple of days now with freezes. Will need to check if the added RAM causes issues while RAM oc. The unlocked L3 seemed to play no role. Come to think of it, also swapped the GPU recently from nvidia geforce to a Radeon HD. Ouch, another rig to troubleshoot  |
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Dec 8, 2020 10:00:48 GMT -5
This rig I had equipped with 2x2GB DDR3-1333, OC to 1800, worked fine. Swapped the spinning disc to an SSD. Found another pair of same 2x2GB at home, so I added that, seemed to work, but a couple of days now with freezes. Will need to check if the added RAM causes issues while RAM oc. The unlocked L3 seemed to play no role. Come to think of it, also swapped the GPU recently from nvidia geforce to a Radeon HD. Ouch, another rig to troubleshoot Could be the Ram you installed or perhaps has a bit of v-droop there and the cpu didn't like it. |
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Post by george on Dec 8, 2020 13:05:10 GMT -5
Good tip there Shrimp! Turned on this workshop computer and checked the voltage I had set in BIOS for the RAM when when it was at 2x2GB, it was at a "safe" ~1.69V.
Turned it up to a "safe" 1.74V, when now 4x2GB@1800MHz. This seems to work for now and I installed all latest W10 updates. Previously it began to hang at windows boot.
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Post by Vinster on Dec 8, 2020 13:35:53 GMT -5
How did you swap from spinning disk to SSD? image or re-install? if you imaged? how did you do it?
The next thing, with the added ram at that OC, did you leave the DRAM voltage as it was? I've had to in the past run an extra 0.5v when OC memory and running 4 sticks instead of 2.
to test the RAM and see if that is the cause, I'd look to run TM5 in windows, if no errors pop-up you should be OK, for a better/warmer feel, you could run Memtestx86 and let it run over night and see if there are any errors that pop up.
Vin
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Post by george on Dec 8, 2020 14:36:15 GMT -5
It was a re-install with the media creation tool(USB), did not have anything there to keep from before. You are right about the RAM voltage, now it has been running a while without problem. Was kind of "worried" the CPU or motherboard was/is showing age.  |
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Post by Vinster on Dec 10, 2020 12:03:36 GMT -5
awesome to hear. if you have any other issues let us know
Vin
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