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Post by pioneerisloud on Nov 20, 2022 23:16:02 GMT -5
Not gonna blame you for asking of course. Thing is, they can take the heat but aircooling is the real limitation I've ran into with these, needs good water or better for going to or above 3.0 reliably. Big air with some is doable but I'm talking about all dual core Optys here, they are good chips but do need a little help.
I had a Toledo LCBQE x2 4200+ that did 3.1GHz reliably on a Zalman CNPS 9500 in my "weak" A8N SLI Premium motherboard before I sent the boards all out to you to fix. While out of the board, I dropped it and bent some pins. I tried repairing, and due to needing new glasses, bent the pins even worse. So instead, sent it off to my buddy that bought my other Vega in exchange for the A8R32-MVP Deluxe board. *Shrugs I miss the chip, but its damaged beyond my own repair now, a pin broke off completely. But yeah, the GOAL here is to score another 3GHz stable on air chip, at least one more. I'm happy enough with these two Opteron 175's, they at least do 2.8+. That was always considered "good" back in the day, so I can accept it. If I see a later date LCBQE on ebay though, I'm snatching it. -------------------------------- n2gaming, yeah I thought I told you about that on Steam? The FX-60 came with the A8R32-MVP Deluxe, X1900, and Corsair XMS RAM I picked up not too terribly long ago (board has bad caps). The FX-60 and my second Vega64 were promised to my buddy that bought that setup for me though, in exchange for....well buying me my dream 939 crossfire board. I don't mind losing out on the FX, it didn't clock too well anyway, 2.80GHz if it was lucky. So not a huge loss, especially with these Opterons doing the same.
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Post by n2gaming on Nov 20, 2022 23:44:22 GMT -5
Yeah I remember the deal about the board and it being bad but I must have forgot about the fX60 :/ Me and my bad memory.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Nov 21, 2022 8:52:08 GMT -5
I have FX-60, but it's a dog. 2.9-3.0 is about it.
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Post by n2gaming on Nov 23, 2022 19:51:58 GMT -5
So even the high end expensive FX chips are hit or miss.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Nov 23, 2022 22:47:02 GMT -5
Mine does 3.2 yes they are a hit or miss.
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Post by Bones on Nov 24, 2022 8:32:27 GMT -5
Like anything else concerning silicon, it's a roll of the dice. My FX-55 doesn't clock as well as some of my single cored Optys do.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Nov 24, 2022 13:19:49 GMT -5
Luck of the draw. Probably try and find a Sandiego instead of a Clawhammer FX-55 though.
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Post by n2gaming on Nov 24, 2022 13:50:00 GMT -5
I was looking at 3800+ San Diego chip the other day. Well I don’t recal if it was a 3800+ but what ever model it was cpu world had it listed as a San Diego. Are San Diego chips good? I was under the impression Toledo’s are good chips.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Nov 24, 2022 14:09:51 GMT -5
Yes, both SD's and Toledo's are good.
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Post by Bones on Nov 24, 2022 17:05:18 GMT -5
An SD is just the single core version of a Toledo. That's the only real difference between them.
My FX-55 is an SD chip so at least it's decent to good.
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Post by n2gaming on Nov 24, 2022 17:30:29 GMT -5
Aha. That clears it up Now I know what to look for well a little more any way.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Nov 29, 2022 14:03:12 GMT -5
Working on a couple of deals right now to score some Opteron 180's..... Why am I stopped at 939 and obsessed and getting 3x 3GHz chips? -_-
Meh, the older rigs are going to get worked on after Christmas. Hopefully I'll have the AGP GPU's fixed by then.
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Post by Bones on Nov 29, 2022 15:12:20 GMT -5
Aha. That clears it up Now I know what to look for well a little more any way. Be sure you get an SD chip that's dated about 0633 and later, the ones that's close to that date and older are crap. To define it, an LCBBE or later stepping/dated chip are the ones to look for or later ones being an LCB9E stepping, those are good too. There were no LCBQE chips made for SD so what's named are what to look for. Stay away from ANY SD chips with a "K" stepping, the K being the first letter of it's stepping code. Those are lesser chips that don't do nearly as well as the ones I named.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Nov 29, 2022 21:56:03 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaand I no longer have any AGP GPU's in the house for a few weeks. Because of the stripped bolts on the 9800XT, lacking the proper ruler / tape measure to measure thermal pads, and a few other reasons......sent all 4 of my AGP GPU's out to a buddy of mine for re-greasing / re-padding and some cleaning. I should have them back sometime after Christmas, and then I can get REALLY busy on these even older rigs.
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Post by eidairman1 on Dec 3, 2022 0:56:32 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaand I no longer have any AGP GPU's in the house for a few weeks. Because of the stripped bolts on the 9800XT, lacking the proper ruler / tape measure to measure thermal pads, and a few other reasons......sent all 4 of my AGP GPU's out to a buddy of mine for re-greasing / re-padding and some cleaning. I should have them back sometime after Christmas, and then I can get REALLY busy on these even older rigs. Lettuce know if you get AGP working in w7 with a proper GART for SktA then 754/939/940 lol
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 3, 2022 1:33:02 GMT -5
Interesting as far as I know there isnt chipset drivers for W7 let alone a GART driver. W7 64 standard chipset drivers work Ok but a AGP GART driver dont think one will be found.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 3, 2022 4:44:05 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaand I no longer have any AGP GPU's in the house for a few weeks. Because of the stripped bolts on the 9800XT, lacking the proper ruler / tape measure to measure thermal pads, and a few other reasons......sent all 4 of my AGP GPU's out to a buddy of mine for re-greasing / re-padding and some cleaning. I should have them back sometime after Christmas, and then I can get REALLY busy on these even older rigs. Lettuce know if you get AGP working in w7 with a proper GART for SktA then 754/939/940 lol Well I mean I could try, but I don't recall there being a GART driver, no? IIRC they did work though........ Remember too, I'm not building these for benching, I'm building them for pleasure and because I wanted to. Also, my AGP systems being Socket 754 and older, were all intended to run on Windows XP (newer / older XP), 2000, 98SE, and 95. XP x64 and newer OS builds are running PCIe cards in my fleet.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 3, 2022 23:54:12 GMT -5
Just scored 3x Opteron 180's, 2 of which are included inside of some Sun rack systems, full systems. So I'll have at least 3x new (to me) Opteron 180's, 6x1GB ECC DDR400, some nifty Socket 939 passive heatsinks, and of course the rest of the 2 rack systems. Why must I pursue 3GHz chips on the 939 systems instead of getting the rest of the builds done? -_-
Anybody have any idea what can be done with a Socket 939 server system? Maybe use that for my router box? Is it strong enough to be a DVR for IP cameras? Hmmm, thoughts are brewing here now......
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 4, 2022 23:09:53 GMT -5
Well, I'm making progress on the software front on the builds. Just trying to make sure everything is installed and there's drivers available for all the hardware and whatnot. I'm also doing disk images of all of the builds too, so I can store those on the NAS, and also on an external HDD, so it'll be easy enough to recover them later. So far I have the following done: Ryzen 5800x / 6900XT - Windows 11 (not done, has 10 on it as a daily driver so meh) Ryzen 3600 / 5700XT - Windows 10 (not done / waiting on HDD installation / next on the list) Ryzen 2600 / Vega 64 - Windows 10 (not done / kiddo's daily driver / has issues need ironed out still) Ryzen 1400 / FuryX - Windows 10 (not done / HDD is in the mail / next on list after Ryzen 3600) FX 8350 / R9 290x - Windows 8.1 - done Phenom II 1100T / 7970 - Windows 7 - done Phenom 9850 / 6970 - Vista - (doing tonight) Opteron 180 / 5870 - XP x64 - done Athlon 1100 / Radeon 9800XT - Win2000 - (not done, GPU being repaired) Still to finish hardware: Opteron 180 / 5770 CFX - Win7 Probably - needs board recapped, drives, case refurbished Opteron 180 / G92 SLI - Win7 Probably - needs G92's and Opteron installed Athlon64 3200+ / X1950 - WinXP - needs drives, GPU out for repair AthlonXP 3200+ / X850PRO - WinXP - needs drives, PSU, GPU out for repair Athlon K6II / Radeon 9000 - Win98SE - needs GPU, drives, PSU, KBB / mouse Athlon K5 / Rage 128 - Win95 - needs CPU, GPU, drives, KBB / mouse (AT), case refurbished So really there's not a WHOLE lot left that I need to buy really. I have drives, I have PSU's, I just am not 100% sure what all works and what all doesn't. It's also a matter of, I have say ZIP drives, but I may be missing the HDD I want for the build, or an optical drive or whatever. "needs drives" listed above is generic meaning I don't have 100% everything I want in them yet. As I said previously, once the GPU's are back in my possession and ready to rock and roll, I can get going on the older kit a LOT easier. I have the main components for basically everything. Me going through right now and getting things installed and imaged is just making sure that what I have "done" is actually done, and that all the hardware functions on the OS's I wanted on them. Either way, progress is being made. I'll have an actual shopping list here in the next few weeks, and I'll be shopping after Christmas to 100% finish ALL of these I'm hoping. I'll probably end up sending the A8R32-MVP Deluxe out to badcaps.net too for cap repair. I know you guys said I could do it, and you're PROBABLY right.....but that board is just too rare. I'd feel more comfortable letting a professional handle it. I'll practice on my dead boards though too. Still a good skill to have.
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Post by n2gaming on Dec 4, 2022 23:18:32 GMT -5
You going to replace all of the caps on that board?
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 4, 2022 23:32:46 GMT -5
You going to replace all of the caps on that board? I think I'm going to pay somebody else that's done it lots of times to do it, but yes. The A8R32-MVP Deluxe is so rare, I'd die if I ended up killing it. -_- I do have boards to practice on (that will never work again). So I'll be learning the skill anyway. I might have to recap a PSU or two anyway, which I'd feel comfortable doing THAT. The rare board, yeah no.
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 7, 2022 22:28:22 GMT -5
You going to replace all of the caps on that board? I think I'm going to pay somebody else that's done it lots of times to do it, but yes. The A8R32-MVP Deluxe is so rare, I'd die if I ended up killing it. -_- I do have boards to practice on (that will never work again). So I'll be learning the skill anyway. I might have to recap a PSU or two anyway, which I'd feel comfortable doing THAT. The rare board, yeah no. Thinking of solid caps or electrolytic for the new ones?
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Post by n2gaming on Dec 8, 2022 1:54:41 GMT -5
Where do you get solid caps? Digikey?
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Post by MachineLearning on Dec 8, 2022 8:37:07 GMT -5
Where do you get solid caps? Digikey? Or Mouser, haven't tried either yet but have heard good things about both. Or you can harvest from otherwise dead boards.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 8, 2022 17:34:37 GMT -5
Not all VRM caps can be replaced with Polys they only go up to 1000uf 6.3v and they are about 12mm in diameter. If the VRM caps are 3300uf 6.3v you are out of luck but you can get all the top Nichicon, Chemicon, and other top electro brands.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 9, 2022 2:11:04 GMT -5
I think I'm going to pay somebody else that's done it lots of times to do it, but yes. The A8R32-MVP Deluxe is so rare, I'd die if I ended up killing it. -_- I do have boards to practice on (that will never work again). So I'll be learning the skill anyway. I might have to recap a PSU or two anyway, which I'd feel comfortable doing THAT. The rare board, yeah no. Thinking of solid caps or electrolytic for the new ones? I don't know to be honest, I've never recapped something before. I figured I'd just pop the old ones out, grab the numbers off them, and order replacements from wherever that were identical. I figure the old ones have lasted this long......... Solid caps probably WOULD last longer though. I'm only going to be recapping PSU's or junk boards I don't care about for now anyway though, so its more for practice than anything. I think the A8R32 is going to be sent out to badcaps. Fun thing that happened this week too...... My 5700XT decided to take a dirt nap. -_- It was fine one day, next day it keeps causing the PC to crash. Definitely the GPU too, had "snow" artifacts at first, then just random black screen hard resets. I still have a LITTLE bit of hope, maybe if I pull the 8pin / 6pin PCIe extensions out and hook direct to PSU, maybe it'll work again. But.....I'm not all that confident since it was fine for a year in that system. *shrugs 5700xt's have come down a lot in price so I guess it is what it is. Maybe after the 7900 series launches I can score a 5700XT for even cheaper than now.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 12, 2022 0:52:53 GMT -5
Alright, so I really need to start taking some pictures. I didn't realize I had this much done already. Here's a slight update, although nothing physical yet. Just been going through "finished" rigs to make sure they're actually finished....... The following list is 100% done rigs, fully installed with their "correct" OS's, imaged for easy re-installation, and ready for me to play with. The rest of my originally stated project list, is going to get hopefully finished after Christmas. AGP GPU's are still with a buddy being "repaired" (re-greased / re-padded / stripped screws fixed), so I'm not counting any AGP builds as "done". With that said, I do have the ONE AGP build "done" so far, but not really since missing GPU and "wrong" OS on it. So whatever........ Anyway, enough rambling. Here's what's "DONE": Done rigs: Ryzen 5800x / RX 6900XT / Windows 11 Ryzen 3600 / RX 5700XT / Windows 10 Ryzen 2600 / Vega 64 / Windows 10 (not imaged since kiddo's rig right now, but done) Ryzen 1400 / Fury X / Windows 10 FX 8350 / R9 290x / Windows 8.1 Phenom II 1100T / HD7970 / Windows 7 Phenom 9850 / HD6970 / Windows Vista Opteron 180 / HD5870 / Windows XP x64 Still have to finish (* denotes needs lots of work, otherwise noted): *Opteron 180 / HD5770 CFX / Windows 7 *Opteron 180 / GTS 250 SLI / Windows 7 *Athlon64 3200+ / X1950 / Windows XP SP3 x86 *AthlonXP 3200+ / X850 / Windows XP x86 Athlon T Bird 1100 / Radeon 9800XT / Windows 2000 (done except GPU) *K6 II 600? / Radeon 9000 or 7500? / Windows 98SE *K5 or K6 underclocked? / Radeon 7500 or Rage 128? / Windows 95 I still have quite a bit left obviously, however MOST of the missing equipment is just drives and peripheral expansion cards and stuff like that. I do have 2 cases I need to finish refurbishing, but can't do that till it warms up a little. Board that needs to be recapped, just the one though. Idk, things are moving along. Just wanted to share the "kind of" update, that I've started installing the "proper" OS's on things and getting things imaged, making sure compatibility is all there, stuff like that. The ones listed as "done" are absolutely, 100% done unless something breaks.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 12, 2022 1:30:59 GMT -5
I cant wait to see pics of all these.
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 12, 2022 9:21:41 GMT -5
I cant wait to see pics of all these. I want to take a collage picture with them all sitting under my 49" ultra wide with some sort of a background on display on it (maybe off my NUC or laptop or something perhaps?). Something that showcases EVERY rig once they're all 100%. Once I get to that point, which.....hopefully soon, I'll take detailed pictures of each rig with 110% full specs listed. I'll probably have to do a whole new thread just for the actual rigs being 100% to be honest. This is kind of my "trials and tribulations" thread here LOL. I can't wait till they're all done so I can get back to work on my Jeep...... LOL
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Post by pioneerisloud on Dec 16, 2022 23:34:02 GMT -5
Well, sneak preview I guess. Today I decided to attempt to be a youtuber. Turns out, I'm not one. But since some of you guys wanted to see them, here we go.
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