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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 8:14:06 GMT -5
so today I ran across something that HWBot and Splave (Allen) posted up saying that $@39@ cheated these 2 benches (which is not legal) by changing windows time while the bench is running and changing it back before it ends kinda sad we just got points for x265 we are gonna end up losing all those points for x265 and HWBot prime really sucks but when ya find a cheat that is this serious with the x265 bench its pretty bad here is the article I seen they posted forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?p=493869#post493869
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 8:34:31 GMT -5
here is where I took the time to test this theory and yes its a clear blatant cheat my 4.6ghz 1080p was 41.67fps when I tested the cheat my score at 4.5ghz went up to 62.1fps no cheat cheat
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Post by Aleslammer on Aug 23, 2017 8:44:21 GMT -5
Just got here from the Bot, following the same drama.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 9:30:53 GMT -5
Just got here from the Bot, following the same drama. check out this prime score 10k my best was 7500 lmao that is bad bad cheaters suck man just plain sucks
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Post by Aleslammer on Aug 23, 2017 10:55:04 GMT -5
From what you are using as a time shift looks like a big jump in score for clock so should be noticeable to the mods if by changing the shift smaller/larger creates smaller amounts of change in score going to be a real problem, now to see how the bot deals with it . Tired of loosing time and effort.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 11:09:41 GMT -5
From what you are using as a time shift looks like a big jump in score for clock so should be noticeable to the mods if by changing the shift smaller/larger creates smaller amounts of change in score going to be a real problem, now to see how the bot deals with it . Tired of loosing time and effort. yea man that sucked cause I ran a few CPUs for that damn x265 bench and we prob gonna lose all the points for both those benches and that was a big portion of my global points running my 5820k and the 7350k I still have and then the hwprime yea you can really tell that was just an example I dunno if you can make it lower or what not most likely it was just a quick look to see for myself
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Post by Aleslammer on Aug 23, 2017 11:18:16 GMT -5
My best global's fall here also plus a total of 397 subs to affect my HWBionts going to be a major hurt!
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 23, 2017 15:02:14 GMT -5
Wish I could see the thread.
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Post by Aleslammer on Aug 23, 2017 15:40:46 GMT -5
have you tried clearing your browser and going in as a quest drama unfolding open forum as far as I can tell.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 16:02:50 GMT -5
you could always use torbrowser too that masks your IP lmao
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 23, 2017 16:28:28 GMT -5
Tor Browser is the bomb. Thanks for that.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 23, 2017 16:45:21 GMT -5
I will give you a quick rundown Scotty. $@39@ is banned ( for how long is not known) and points for both HWBprime and X264 are suspended until something is worked out for them. By moving the time back 1min or so after the bench has started improves the score even though HPet is enabled the bench still uses the windows clock. A lot of people are saying to do away with HWBPrime all together.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 16:57:00 GMT -5
Tor Browser is the bomb. Thanks for that. np man that is what I use to travel the torrent sites
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 23, 2017 17:57:48 GMT -5
I will give you a quick rundown Scotty. $@39@ is banned ( for how long is not known) and points for both HWBprime and X264 are suspended until something is worked out for them. By moving the time back 1min or so after the bench has started improves the score even though HPet is enabled the bench still uses the windows clock. A lot of people are saying to do away with HWBPrime all together. I'm up on the entire situation now. Thanks. X265 will be fixed. Havli is dedicated and honest. botprime should have been removed a long time ago. There are a few others also.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 18:07:00 GMT -5
I hear XTU is another one people dont really like at all that slow button on only a few mobos makes it unfair and its altering the bench also so its cheating IMO I hope they do fix the X265 bench I didnt know there are other things you can do like overkill x2 mode (built into the bench) will also improve your score
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 23, 2017 18:19:07 GMT -5
XTU is one of them, yes. Unfortunately, with Intel being a major HWB sponsor, you'll never see that benchmark removed. Politics.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 23, 2017 18:27:07 GMT -5
oh yea XTU wont go then lol it just sucks people would cheat like that I guess if you are slimy enough you will do anything to get that #1 spot
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Post by Vinster on Aug 24, 2017 6:00:21 GMT -5
Wow, that was a great read, thanks for sharing it... lots of pitchforks and torches in that thread.
Vin
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Post by Bones on Aug 25, 2017 14:48:10 GMT -5
Yeah- Now the thread I was reading got locked and was for the best. I thought they were going to run out of pitchforks and torches the way that was going.......
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Post by Aleslammer on Aug 26, 2017 9:41:40 GMT -5
Didn't know there was a underlying dislike for Bot Prime, from a grinding stand point looks like a good bench goes back in platform pretty good, know it bounces all over the place but personally could get in the same score range between reboots and generally seemed to scale based on the better runs for a given group. About the only thing I disliked about it was the bouncing I always had this feeling there was higher score there.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 26, 2017 12:26:15 GMT -5
Yes. It wasn't called 'the slot machine' for nothing. lol
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 26, 2017 17:06:23 GMT -5
I liked X265 too it seemed like not a bad bench.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 26, 2017 17:10:29 GMT -5
yea I liked X265 also it was straight forward bench didnt think there would be a way to cheat but if there is a way people will find it
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Post by Mr.Scott on Aug 26, 2017 18:36:10 GMT -5
x265 is a good bench. It will be fixed.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 26, 2017 19:07:41 GMT -5
I hope it is I was excited when they added points to it I lost a ton of them because of this most my GL were from X265
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Post by Bones on Aug 27, 2017 11:54:07 GMT -5
Yes. It wasn't called 'the slot machine' for nothing. lol Processor Mark 3 was another one like that but not as bad, even Nuclearus MC did it to an extent but Prime is the worst out of all about it. Don't feel so bad Shady, I lost my fair share of points over it too.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Aug 27, 2017 15:09:06 GMT -5
yea a lot of people lost points from that oh well I will get them back sooner or later with that bench or another lol
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 27, 2017 17:31:04 GMT -5
It wont worry me if they do away with prime all together. As Scotty said I am sure Havli will recode X265 so it uses the RTC exclusively.
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Post by alpi on Sept 7, 2017 15:05:53 GMT -5
Not because my opinion is any decent thing but I have to tell You, that I was very upset when I was read this thing on Hwbot ! I was specially angry (or maybe sad) because a pretty high ranked person was cheating. Really can't imagine why is a person cheating after He put so many time and work to this oc thing. :S Other side, I made the question, where did he cheated besides this. :S Maybe nowhere, maybe He did ? I thought the top benchers have much more proud of their work and results. :S And at last, I have to tell, that I can't understand the only 1 year bann ! If they didn't mind their achieved results and started to play lottery, we should let them lose. I'm not an evil just don't want to lose my dream where we no need to think about cheating or any other things like that, just play because the excitement of the game and not alone for the victory.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Sept 7, 2017 16:22:43 GMT -5
I'm with you. Should have been a permanent ban. There was more than enough proof.
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