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Post by Vinster on Mar 12, 2019 23:12:49 GMT -5
An epidemic that is happening online that is just burning me up is people that post stuff like;
"I was doing 50mph and my engine light went on.. what could it be?"
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"I just changed to my winter tires and now I have a shake in the steering wheel.. what could that be???"
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"my car won't start, what could it be??"
these people shouldn't be allowed to have a car... or a license... that is where certain European countries win.. you need to pass a basic auto course to get your license... that should be everywhere!!!
Vin
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Post by Bones on Mar 13, 2019 9:54:33 GMT -5
Looking for impossible to get answers with the total lack of info..... Nothing wrong with asking a question, it's what the question is based on and the amount of detail given which, is partially the auto industry's fault too. I know it's possible for example to place a few gauges in a vehicle instead of the all-emcompasing "Idiot Light" so if, for example engine temp starts getting too high the gauge would show it but an idiot light could literally mean anything when you see it.
In the case of an engine getting too hot that would become apparent to most before long anyway and if not they don't need to be in one. Other questions like "my car won't start, what could it be??" if phrased that way are annoying, as if anyone would know by all that good info they just gave..... NOT. There is also a mixup in terminology when you use the term "It won't start" as an example. For some if the engine WILL turn over but the engine itself never actually runs on it's own this means it won't start. For others if it doesn't do anything at all (As if the battery has been removed/NOT turning over) then that means it's not starting, two contradictory ways of thinking about it since there is more than a few things that could cause an engine to not run. Most non auto-tech folks/people use "It's not starting" to describe it regardless of the vehicle's starter functioning or not.
While not a real biggie most of the time it's still annoying.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 13, 2019 15:00:36 GMT -5
today I'm annoyed... lol
Vin
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Post by zila1 on Mar 13, 2019 18:38:58 GMT -5
ROFLMAO.............I understand Vinster. My tooth fell out.........what could it be??
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Mar 13, 2019 20:24:04 GMT -5
You got gum disease Eddie. Vin there are a lot of idiots in the world that have no idea at all this is nothing new.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 13, 2019 21:52:56 GMT -5
And have the same idiots repairing vehicles??
I do not agree.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 13, 2019 22:09:51 GMT -5
And have the same idiots repairing vehicles?? I do not agree. No, these courses are meant for knowing where the fluids are, how to change a tire, etc.... Very basic car knowledge to help you on the side of the road, on a dark desert highway....
Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 13, 2019 23:04:48 GMT -5
Good song Basic car knowledge should be passed down from fathers. people shouldn't need a test to check oil levels. That's where you see the down fall of "man" and mankind, the need for primitive necessities taken for granted and left behind my old friend. Jordan (my 7 year old) knows how to check oil. He was helping do brakes at 5.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 13, 2019 23:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Mar 14, 2019 2:42:56 GMT -5
Some folks wouldn't be able to pass a test based on the basics of autos and it's not because they're stupid, it's simply for some reason autos and them just don't mix. I mean everyone has that thing others can do decently at least but they themselves don't have a clue about it and probrably never will. And then again, some are just that damn stupid. True story: One of the guys I went to school with ran his dad's shop after graduation and while doing it this happened. Some guy pulled in asking him to check the water in the radiator because his ride was running hot so... He did. That's when the guy spoke and said "That's not where I put the water in earlier", Referring to his mentioning it was running hot just a few miles back and he had stopped to fill the radiator. When he said that he pointed right at the engine oil cap.... With the word "OIL" plain as the nose on your face on it and yes, he had topped it off all the way too.
THEN on top of everything asked if it would be OK to keep going until he got home....... "No - I don't think so" was the answer given.
Can't fix stupid.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 14, 2019 10:06:49 GMT -5
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Post by zila1 on Mar 14, 2019 12:19:28 GMT -5
Once I saw a very special kind of idiot smoking a cigarette at a gas station while filling his gas tank. All the while fumes from the fuel filler were rising up to meet his nose like a finger from the devil. Before anyone could or even would say anything his hair and beard was on fire. He ran around the station for a while looking like the devil himself. Paramedics arrived and took him away. Before they did one of the paramedics went to where the incident had happened looked and commented............."There is a huge fucking sign up here that says NO SMOKING right at the pumps and all over this station there are signs. What an idiot!!"
This was one of those really hot days where fumes really come up, especially from a freshly opened fuel tank that is burping itself.
I also watched a guy open his hood to see what was wrong with his over heating car in heavy traffic. He leaned over to look at things and his neck tie got caught up in the accessory drive belts and pulleys and it was killing him. ROFLMAO.
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Post by george on Mar 14, 2019 13:02:02 GMT -5
oh boy, you should hear and see the electric vehicle hype and autonomous car hype that is going on over here. No talk about fluids there, merely about where can I recharge my car for "free". Reserved parking spaces nearest to the door and reserved lanes for low emission cars. It is getting ridiculous in a sense.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 14, 2019 18:06:02 GMT -5
Here in the U.S. there is no way our old electrical grid can support all this electric car bullshit. Ain't gonna happen here under current conditions. They don't have good range and take way too long to charge. Batteries create much more pollution on the planet than fossil fuels. Can you imagine getting stuck in a traffic jam and running out of electrical power and having to be towed somewhere to get the stupid car charged and having to wait up to 24 hours to get the vehicle fully charged again. The battery charge doesn't last very long in extreme cold or extreme heat. Then there are the dangers involved during serious collisions of those batteries opening up and releasing all that acidic crap all over the place........including the occupants or any emergency responders coming onto the scene.
Here in the Midwest U.S.A. electric cars make no sense at all.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 14, 2019 18:10:31 GMT -5
They are more to be used as big city puddle jumpers. There is a specific target market.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 14, 2019 19:13:45 GMT -5
for electric cars, I was at a Toyota conference back in 2008 and the discussion came up if Toyota would ever make an EV car and the presenter said "NO", this guy was one of the lead engineers for Toyota North America.... he explained that the life cycle of the car (10 years expected), pollution emitted from the cars life from charging from a coal grid and the battery cost and recycling it (most of it can't be recycled and is e-waste that needs to be treated like plutonium)... The long term environmental impact, it just didn't make sense.
Toyota still somewhat sits behind this as per the market they are lagging a lot...
The Presenter did point out that if the charging was from green energy and by the time USA/CANADA caught up to using that more than 50% for all our energy, then hopefully battery tech will have cough up and that the battery material was more recyclable... but he noted that would be 2040/2050 before we would get there....
on certain cars, you can fast charge a car in 45min, that's usually at a premium cost of $35-$55 depending on location... but those locations a few. And last I checked in California where the population of these is at it's highest, the line-up to a fast charger can be up to 3-4 hours... soo... hope there is a nice park near by??? lol
Vin
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Post by zila1 on Mar 14, 2019 23:19:51 GMT -5
As fuel efficient as many gasoline models have become, I just don't see a need for electric cars right now. I wouldn't even touch a hybrid. A friend of mine has/had a Prius. The battery pack needed replacing on an out of warranty car. That stupid thing was $3000. The car just wasn't worth it. What a P.O.S..
We had weather here in Chicago that was in the -55* F range(wind chills). Teslas were failing. Batteries couldn't handle the extreme cold. Naaaaah. I would go strictly gasoline for now.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 15, 2019 1:29:45 GMT -5
As fuel efficient as many gasoline models have become, I just don't see a need for electric cars right now. I wouldn't even touch a hybrid. A friend of mine has/had a Prius. The battery pack needed replacing on an out of warranty car. That stupid thing was $3000. The car just wasn't worth it. What a P.O.S.. We had weather here in Chicago that was in the -55* F range(wind chills). Teslas were failing. Batteries couldn't handle the extreme cold. Naaaaah. I would go strictly gasoline for now. There is a company in Cali that will send you a refurbished battery, the cost is a variable on how well your individual battery cells are, they have a well documented How-To for checking it. Average cost for a replacement is $1500USD if you do it yourself. out here in Canada, the dealer wants $7500-$10k to replace the battery.
Vin
EDIT: and ya, Lithium batteries are only good to -20C.. anything colder and they are no good...
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Post by george on Mar 15, 2019 2:24:54 GMT -5
I agree with zila1. Over here in EU, e-cars are related to some reduced emission agreement that every country has to oblige with until say yr2030 and need to draw up a plan. This gives many environment scientists bright ideas and the industry excited. Our country has long distances between cities, not densely populated, difficult weather conditions and expensive road keeping every year and therefore vitally dependent also on personal car usage. We do have quite good electricity infra&grid but it does not come cheap. For our family car need&usage, classic fuel engine cars suite us best (and some instances want to penalize that by more taxes, which they spend dunno where)
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Post by zila1 on Mar 15, 2019 12:07:36 GMT -5
As fuel efficient as many gasoline models have become, I just don't see a need for electric cars right now. I wouldn't even touch a hybrid. A friend of mine has/had a Prius. The battery pack needed replacing on an out of warranty car. That stupid thing was $3000. The car just wasn't worth it. What a P.O.S.. We had weather here in Chicago that was in the -55* F range(wind chills). Teslas were failing. Batteries couldn't handle the extreme cold. Naaaaah. I would go strictly gasoline for now. There is a company in Cali that will send you a refurbished battery, the cost is a variable on how well your individual battery cells are, they have a well documented How-To for checking it. Average cost for a replacement is $1500USD if you do it yourself. out here in Canada, the dealer wants $7500-$10k to replace the battery.
Vin
EDIT: and ya, Lithium batteries are only good to -20C.. anything colder and they are no good...
I've heard of them. Supposed to be a pretty decent swap for $1500. Honestly though, if I had one of those Prius's.......I would junk it.
I know someone who owned an electric car(Tesla). I have to admit the darned thing looked real sharp. Beautiful car. But after a while it was suffering from some pretty major corrosion issues. Chicago road salt was eating it away. Batteries/harnesses were getting wet and shorting out. Charge times were too high for his liking and he was afraid of going too far from home for fear of not being able to get back on the single charge. He lost his shirt on that car. They ain't cheap either. Now he's driving a Toyota Avalon with a V6 and 8 speed tranny. He loves it. I do too.
The time for the electric car just isn't quite here just yet. They are working on it and making them better but it's not just the cars themselves but the support for them that is so critical. Like Scottie mentioned they are best as short trip type vehicles. For now. I will stick to a modern fuel efficient gasoline engine. I can fill that up anywhere in the U.S. with ease.
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