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Post by alpi on Jul 6, 2018 2:37:56 GMT -5
Thanks - I wasn't kidding when I said I had to work for it. I spent about 5 hours tweaking, trying different voltages, settings, trying different multipliers and all else to zero in on what this system could do. If it wasn't for the third core dragging it would have ran even faster but it got the job done in the end anyway. Good to hear, it wasn't too easy ! What was the temperature of the cpu ? Made such high clocks compared to the voltage !
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 6, 2018 2:50:02 GMT -5
Congratulations Rodney Excellent run. Thats an impressive CPU you have got there too Alpi.
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Post by Bones on Jul 6, 2018 2:54:01 GMT -5
Thanks - I wasn't kidding when I said I had to work for it. I spent about 5 hours tweaking, trying different voltages, settings, trying different multipliers and all else to zero in on what this system could do. If it wasn't for the third core dragging it would have ran even faster but it got the job done in the end anyway. Good to hear, it wasn't too easy ! What was the temperature of the cpu ? Made such high clocks compared to the voltage ! Higher than I wanted them to be for sure - No exact figure but I could tell it was heating up due to the way core 3 was acting.
Sometimes core 1 would act up too and even stop, I had the find the perfect balance between too much and too little voltage for it to run for the speed I needed, once I did I let it go.
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Post by alpi on Jul 6, 2018 3:25:47 GMT -5
I know what You mean ! I made some subs with a Phenom II cooled with a chiller. It's really hard to find the setup that leads to a maxed out result. Every degree, every clock need to be calculated with. Raising voltages is absolutely a dead end. try, try, try. You can find hundreds ways how can't be done. Bigger multi, lower fsb, higher fsb low multi, oh no the imc still producing much heat but without that cpu is super slow. Good game, real soul killer but You made good job ! Grats again !
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Post by Vinster on Jul 6, 2018 8:01:53 GMT -5
@vin, oh less than a freaking second you beat me by? And had to make the switch to an AMD processor to do it?! Haha good runs Vin! Ya, i didn't have enough time to really dig in on it, Happy to get what I got. I know I could do better but it's only 4 cores.... I need to get my chiller up. thanks for the comp Jon, I had fun Vin
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Post by zila1 on Jul 6, 2018 9:19:54 GMT -5
I love it. My pal showing those clocking skills. Proud of ya Bones.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 7, 2018 7:25:19 GMT -5
Good show you guys. Jon, great comp. Thank you.
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Post by Aleslammer on Jul 7, 2018 8:27:13 GMT -5
Jon, thanks it was fun!!!
Nice playing all!!!
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Post by ozz on Jul 10, 2018 3:17:08 GMT -5
i cant get it right, dunno why, i tried everything for it , do the multi on its own, no diff, do the fsb the clock speed changes in wprime, cpuz reads the bios settings, prime wont, i think i had a good crack for it couldnt do it, just wodnt read the same speed in prime to do the bench at the bios speeds, ive tried for days now, changing everything, only change comes if i change the fsb mhz, i got to be thinking its a bios issue, and i know jack shit bout gig bioses, pain in the arse they are. anyway, its time to tuck into a home made pea n ham soup. smoked ham hocks, with herbs, spices, veges,, good wholesome winter tucker, you blokes over there would be wanting ice cubes for dinns, we get what youre gettin in spring not summer, and youre gunna get it hotter to come yet , so get prepared !!
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Post by Vinster on Jul 10, 2018 7:29:29 GMT -5
Have you tried clicking on the "Install Missing Liibraries" or have you tried an OS re-install.
also what about chipset drivers?
Vin
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Post by noxinite on Jul 10, 2018 9:07:13 GMT -5
Nice work guys! Some of those clockspeeds on water.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 15, 2018 18:42:52 GMT -5
i cant get it right, dunno why, i tried everything for it , do the multi on its own, no diff, do the fsb the clock speed changes in wprime, cpuz reads the bios settings, prime wont, i think i had a good crack for it couldnt do it, just wodnt read the same speed in prime to do the bench at the bios speeds, ive tried for days now, changing everything, only change comes if i change the fsb mhz, i got to be thinking its a bios issue, and i know jack shit bout gig bioses, pain in the arse they are. anyway, its time to tuck into a home made pea n ham soup. smoked ham hocks, with herbs, spices, veges,, good wholesome winter tucker, you blokes over there would be wanting ice cubes for dinns, we get what youre gettin in spring not summer, and youre gunna get it hotter to come yet , so get prepared !!
Shane Wprime reads the CPUID that is why it shows standard speed in the wprime window look at the X5960 screenshot of mine it is showing the CPU at standard speed. You have to start Wprime to see if the CPUz window drops it speed which has been your problem just looking at the screen wprime will still show the standard speed even if its running at the right speed you have to run the bench to see if the speed drops in CPUz. It would be running at the right speed but the board throttles at load and it drops back to standard speed as soon as the bench starts For some reason its a bios board problem with that basic board when I had it here I was very disappointed with it. If it was a UD5 or 7 it would be a different story. Stick it in the Crosshair IV problem fixed.
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Post by ozz on Jul 15, 2018 19:56:13 GMT -5
im buggered if i know whats up with it, i know it didnt do this b4 but it was with a fx 8370 @ vinnie, i don know about install missing libraries vinnie, chipset driver was installed yes, pete gave me a disc with that and usb drivers i think, im gunna reinstall the os today and try again from scratch, ive got a 960T, 965 , 1090T that i wanna try out, maybe ive damaged something going for the high clocks on the fx cpus and didnt know about it
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 15, 2018 22:02:31 GMT -5
The boards not damaged stick a FX cpu in it and I bet it dont do it. Put the AM3 CPUs in the Crosshair 4 its made for them.
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Post by ozz on Jul 15, 2018 22:07:10 GMT -5
The boards not damaged stick a FX cpu in it and I bet it dont do it. Put the AM3 CPUs in the Crosshair 4 its made for them. i know its made for them pete but i dont understand why its not reading it right, what about a diff bios ?, i forget whats on it now, FDk is what is on it, you said you had trouble with not getting enough NB freq with it, im not having any of that trouble, it just does it when i go up with it 2600, 2800 no worries, and that was the trouble with it when i was there and you had it on ln2 when i came over to pour the ln2, no matter what i try it tries to load then blue screens, and there not a lot in the bios to change in it lol
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 16, 2018 1:36:46 GMT -5
Did you look at the screenshot I put up Wprime is reading the X5960 at 3000mhz and CPUZ is showing 4700. Wprime will do that with any CPU board combo your problem is that the CPU is running at the speed that CPUz says but as soon as the bench starts it throttles it down. I never had that problem with a AM3+ CPU the problem I had was that even if I set the NB speed above 2200 it would boot at 2200 only way to get it higher was with bus clock but it didnt throttle under load. It has to be something to do with the AM3 CPU in that board or there is a setting in the bios that you havent got set right. Maybe a earlier bios would fix it for older CPUs but the FDk would probably be the stablest BIOS for FX
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Post by ozz on Jul 16, 2018 2:35:43 GMT -5
Did you look at the screenshot I put up Wprime is reading the X5960 at 3000mhz and CPUZ is showing 4700. Wprime will do that with any CPU board combo your problem is that the CPU is running at the speed that CPUz says but as soon as the bench starts it throttles it down. I never had that problem with a AM3+ CPU the problem I had was that even if I set the NB speed above 2200 it would boot at 2200 only way to get it higher was with bus clock but it didnt throttle under load. It has to be something to do with the AM3 CPU in that board or there is a setting in the bios that you havent got set right. Maybe a earlier bios would fix it for older CPUs but the FDk would probably be the stablest BIOS for FX yes i looked at it pete, but with a cpu speed of 4500, 4700 which i had with a time of 350 seconds plus in prime?? you gotta be kiddin, theres not much in there to change, now im having issues tryin to install xp, i changed the cpu from the 1090T to the 965, same deal, bloody hours to try install xp today and still no further ahead and ive tried every boot setting on there, as well as different hdds and the same result each time, goes thru the set up then blue screens, no matter what i change, but it aint gunna beat me, ill stick with it till i find out whats doing this , a 990fxa-ud3 has limited bios options anyway, jesus, its a basic bios optioned board, but this was a damn good 1, it belted the xhair v-z to pieces and youve seen it, you were here and did it, anyway, its off now ive had enough for 1 day with it, tired of melting ice and gettin nowhere
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 16, 2018 8:08:41 GMT -5
Well stick an FX cpu in it and I bet it doesnt drop frequency when the bench is running. Its just a board quirk that is probably only with that model board or that bios.
Flash the bios to FA or FB that will probably fix it. Its easy to do download the bios put it on your desktop its a 7zip double click on it and extract it copy the actual bios file to a blank usb flash drive plug it into a usb port on the back of the board boot go into the bios and there will be a flash utility in there probably in the save section just follow the instructions on the screen.
As far as limited bios options it has everything that is needed I would say the UD5 or UD7 would have a very similar bios. My Z77X-UD5H and Z77X-UD3H have a very similar looking bios advanced and peripheral sections are pretty much the same as that and the MIT section is very similar but with intel settings bioses dont have to be complicated to be good.
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Post by ozz on Jul 16, 2018 19:52:12 GMT -5
Well stick an FX cpu in it and I bet it doesnt drop frequency when the bench is running. Its just a board quirk that is probably only with that model board or that bios. Flash the bios to FA or FB that will probably fix it. Its easy to do download the bios put it on your desktop its a 7zip double click on it and extract it copy the actual bios file to a blank usb flash drive plug it into a usb port on the back of the board boot go into the bios and there will be a flash utility in there probably in the save section just follow the instructions on the screen. As far as limited bios options it has everything that is needed I would say the UD5 or UD7 would have a very similar bios. My Z77X-UD5H and Z77X-UD3H have a very similar looking bios advanced and peripheral sections are pretty much the same as that and the MIT section is very similar but with intel settings bioses dont have to be complicated to be good. righto pete thx mate , will have a go, expect a phone call
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