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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 8, 2018 11:51:55 GMT -5
Gonna throw this out to you guys for suggestions. Problem with my Ultra B. Garbled display no matter what vid card, ram, or CPU is used. Garbled in the bios also. Here's the kicker though, the splash screen during boot up is crystal clear. I have no idea where to go with this. No HDD installed so it's not driver or software related. Already reflashed bios chip. No change. Board was recapped a year ago and has worked since.
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Post by Bones on Jan 8, 2018 14:12:30 GMT -5
I'd test with a different monitor first, the one in use could be about to take a dump and it's pulling your finger in the process.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 8, 2018 15:53:09 GMT -5
Done. 3 different ones. All the same result. It's definitely the board.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 8, 2018 16:50:44 GMT -5
Thats a tricky one in the Bios the lines are straight just the text is garbed?
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 8, 2018 18:13:07 GMT -5
Thats a tricky one in the Bios the lines are straight just the text is garbed? Yes, and filled with artifacts. Same thing with the post screen. But the splash screen is perfect.
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Post by ozz on Jan 8, 2018 18:29:24 GMT -5
have you tried cleaning the gpu slot fingers with old wet and dry paper scotty , is there another slot to try, is it possible to give the slot a good air blow out after the clean
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Post by Bones on Jan 8, 2018 18:32:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 8, 2018 18:40:30 GMT -5
I did try both AGP and PCI vid cards. There was no difference.
Not so much looking to replace the board. I only use it for Pi and reference clock. Pretty much all it's good for is the super high FSB stuff. NF7 and AN7 are better for everything else.
Just kinda want to know what went bad.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jan 8, 2018 19:34:18 GMT -5
I think its going to be a low level hardware fault. It wouldnt be the first time I have seen this sort of fault either. Bios language on older boards is only in english generally computers use the ASCII character set (American Symbolic Code Information Interchange) The code is probably stored on another PROM other than the bios chip and I would say its corrupt or timing is askew. One thing I would look at Scotty is electros around and near the bios chip one of them could be bad causing the garbled display of characters because of bad signal timing.
Shane's brother sent him a book on computer architecture one of those 3" thick books I used to have one back in the nineties it would be good to have a read of that now to get a good idea of how the code is actually handled.
A lot of these sort of problems would be solvable if schematics and detailed block diagrams were available for motherboards.
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Post by ozz on Jan 8, 2018 20:41:22 GMT -5
I think its going to be a low level hardware fault. It wouldnt be the first time I have seen this sort of fault either. Bios language on older boards is only in english generally computers use the ASCII character set (American Symbolic Code Information Interchange) The code is probably stored on another PROM other than the bios chip and I would say its corrupt or timing is askew. One thing I would look at Scotty is electros around and near the bios chip one of them could be bad causing the garbled display of characters because of bad signal timing. Shane's brother sent him a book on computer architecture one of those 3" thick books I used to have one back in the nineties it would be good to have a read of that now to get a good idea of how the code is actually handled. A lot of these sort of problems would be solvable if schematics and detailed block diagrams were available for motherboards. i said to him when he sent me the book that i wont understand a bloody word of it, you can have the book pete, at least you can understand what its talkin about youre my wiki encyclopedia, and if it helps scotty or anyone else with what you find then great, to be completely hones ive opened the bloody thing once then shut it straight up again lol, how the hell am i gunna understand any of that
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jan 9, 2018 16:34:44 GMT -5
I think its going to be a low level hardware fault. It wouldnt be the first time I have seen this sort of fault either. Bios language on older boards is only in english generally computers use the ASCII character set (American Symbolic Code Information Interchange) The code is probably stored on another PROM other than the bios chip and I would say its corrupt or timing is askew. One thing I would look at Scotty is electros around and near the bios chip one of them could be bad causing the garbled display of characters because of bad signal timing. Shane's brother sent him a book on computer architecture one of those 3" thick books I used to have one back in the nineties it would be good to have a read of that now to get a good idea of how the code is actually handled. A lot of these sort of problems would be solvable if schematics and detailed block diagrams were available for motherboards. Thank you. I will look into that a little deeper.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 5, 2018 17:58:39 GMT -5
Signalling/sync issue between AGP bus, chipset/CPU i say. Have you tried cmos clearing then bumping the agp voltage up some along with the agp bus speed, or tried lowering it to agp 4x mode?
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Post by Bones on Jul 5, 2018 18:02:30 GMT -5
Could be a bad BIOS chip too, partially corrupted BIOS with bad blocks it can't read or read properly.
Same basic issue with my Soyo Dragon, the BIOS chip went bad just sitting and now it won't do anything, can't even erase the chip or anything else with my programmer.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 5, 2018 23:40:53 GMT -5
Well bios is a running process in it'self. Have to agree with Rodney on this one, the bios chip is going bad. My M3A32 MVP wifi deluxe app solo did the exact same thing before it completely bit the dust to a no post situation. However I purchased 2 or three bios chips with different bios versions flashed on it previous to the scattered bios screen of dying death due to other abnormalities in some of the settings, It would only post with the already going bad bios original chip and no other.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 5, 2018 23:53:42 GMT -5
Well bios is a running process in it'self. Have to agree with Rodney on this one, the bios chip is going bad. My M3A32 MVP wifi deluxe app solo did the exact same thing before it completely bit the dust to a no post situation. However I purchased 2 or three bios chips with different bios versions flashed on it previous to the scattered bios screen of dying death due to other abnormalities in some of the settings, It would only post with the already going bad bios original chip and no other. I guess ive been fortunate to have never had a eeprom go bad on me, I have bricked one though once that was on a K7N2 Delta-L
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 6, 2018 0:10:14 GMT -5
Talking 3.6ghz with a 6000+ windsor. It would game at 3.4ghz all day and bench up to 3.6ghz on Liquid. I never had luck with the Brisbane Athlons though. had a couple that did ok. The board had a quirk in Cpu voltage. @ 1.35v set in bios, would put the chip over 1.6ghz while with Athlons the max voltage available was only 1.55v displayed in bios. More if Phenom I agena core was present. Twas my fav board of all time. miss it dearly.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 7, 2018 7:19:40 GMT -5
Bios chip is not the problem. I've had 3 different one's in it already. Going with Pete on this. Low level hardware failure. Board is probably junk. I'll probably ebay it for parts or possible repair. I almost never use it any more.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Jul 7, 2018 12:18:19 GMT -5
You never mentioned that you tried other bios chips. So thats why we mentioned it.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 7, 2018 12:22:07 GMT -5
My bad. Should have been more clear. Re-flashed the original bios chip and 2 others.
Also not AGP oriented. Tried AGP cards and PCI cards, no difference.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 7, 2018 14:44:53 GMT -5
My bad. Should have been more clear. Re-flashed the original bios chip and 2 others. Also not AGP oriented. Tried AGP cards and PCI cards, no difference. Might be NB at that point bro. Eh, If you can find a Infinity board of theirs it should be just as good. I remember loggan26 of Loggans world/Logans world having a guru site on the DFI LP and Inifinity boards for skt 462.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Jul 7, 2018 16:04:45 GMT -5
It is the exact same board with none of the bling. Had a couple already. Believe it or not, you can use the Ultra B bios on them.
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Post by Bones on Jul 7, 2018 19:21:38 GMT -5
Got a pair myself, one isn't wanting to work right now and could have suffered something similar even though it was just sitting. Worked the last time I used it, then hooked it up again after a few months and it's a no-go.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 9, 2018 21:28:11 GMT -5
Got a pair myself, one isn't wanting to work right now and could have suffered something similar even though it was just sitting. Worked the last time I used it, then hooked it up again after a few months and it's a no-go. A pair of boards or ram?
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Post by Bones on Jul 10, 2018 3:16:54 GMT -5
Infinity boards.
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