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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 3, 2018 9:41:04 GMT -5
z370 ultra gaming having lot of issues with hof ram. beyond 1800 automatic downgrade to 1600 and timings all over the place. tried the ram with x370 gaming k5/ ryzen 1700. not working beyond 1066. so went back to g.skill which was doing around 1866 12-15-15-28-374-2t and did some tweaking and increased voltage to 1.9. it did 12-12-12-28-220-2t and passed spi32m with i7 8700k @ 5390mhz.
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 4, 2018 9:42:38 GMT -5
galax hof is not compatible with z370 ultra gaming. tried 3-4days now and best i could get is around 1800+ with kit rated 2000. board is doing extremely well with all g.skill kits. just dropped my 4 year old 1733 2*4 gb g.skill (not a b-die) and runs flawlessly with 1.7v dual channel 2000+. probably board has got better compatibility with g.skill kits. my z170 oc formula is expected to reach tomorrow. hopefully galx ram works well with ocf.
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Post by bullant on Nov 5, 2018 6:09:42 GMT -5
Hey K, Can you try your galax ram one stick at a time in single channel, just to eliminate that ones not damaged....Also are you setting all your sub timings? Something could be tightening up a little to much on the galax dims causing the training issue above 1800Mhz You can even try setting every timing the GSkill is on the galx memory and see if goes above 1800Mhz......Your cl, along with some other subs timings plays a big part with training, even more so on not so great boards It might help if you can post a asrock timing config, so can see what your memory is doing
Also if you can get a dry cloth and wipe the gold fingers down on the galx mems, just another eliminate process ahahah
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 19:54:15 GMT -5
K I am chuffed that think that Thankyou But I am just an average overclocker that has most desktop sockets from socket 7 on and use LN2 to get fast speed out of them. It makes me a good all rounder having all the different sockets. A jack of all but a master of none. Yeah right macs you kick ass. ________ As for comments edit previous page & taking advice. Does not matter who K listens too ... anyone here can help him. My experience on 7350K sucky IMC ... 7700K sucky IMC & with 3600 GSkills " Average " then boards that were NOT Apex or Formula breeds Very very bad. You waste so much time with unstable bsods freezing ... trying to get that score, you think your system is capable of. ________ What changed for me? Having the Galax 4000 rams already here. Then the highest calibre boards. ie Apex " these make it so easy " with features in the bios. BUT the biggest thing of all is a top bin processor. That's the final & best piece of the jigsaw puzzle. Then shit just works. So much easier Sorry K kind of went off on a spiel, but it's kind of helpful. Better than battling unstable crap for a whole year. How it was for me before joining this team
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 6, 2018 3:00:31 GMT -5
Hey K, Can you try your galax ram one stick at a time in single channel, just to eliminate that ones not damaged....Also are you setting all your sub timings? Something could be tightening up a little to much on the galax dims causing the training issue above 1800Mhz You can even try setting every timing the GSkill is on the galx memory and see if goes above 1800Mhz......Your cl, along with some other subs timings plays a big part with training, even more so on not so great boards It might help if you can post a asrock timing config, so can see what your memory is doing
Also if you can get a dry cloth and wipe the gold fingers down on the galx mems, just another eliminate process ahahah
did try the single stick(both tested). works 2000 loose timings xmp. 1933 12-15-15-28-2t single channel(automatic downgrade). dual channel drops below 1800 automatically and can do all timings like 12-12-12-, 12-11-11-1t. to add to that board is very much on its own, if it feels ike timings are tight it will downgrade automatically. 1733 ddr4 i ran 2000+ with 19-24-24- and when i tried to run 2000+ with 16-21-21, it's downgraded to 1866.
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 6, 2018 3:09:33 GMT -5
now i have much bigger problem. asrock oc formula arrived. main bios p7.3 and switch p1.5
tried with i3 6320. 3900 seems to be the limit for frequency. if i up the base clock to 102. multi down to 38 and if i go close to 102.9 multi down to 37.
ram is much bigger probem can't get to 1600(1533) single channel and 1500(1466) dual channel. can do all timings below that. xmp, auto, preset profiles everything tried. downgraded bios to 2.2, 2.6 and also tried the switch bios 1.5 and all do the same. ( all 4 ram kits i have can't go beyond these clocks.
i7 6700k(multi oc is fine, tried upto 4600) also having same problems on ram. lot of system hangs, qcode 19. it looked like me region corruption. and tried to recover mei but didn't help.( i had similar issue earlier with p8z77-v which i could recover successfully with ftk flash of me region)
need help on that one. this board is a special discount board from NEWEGG, came with no seal. i doubt it's a rmaed/repaired board.
i may be doing something wrong also. don't have much experience with asrock bios.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 4:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 4:32:40 GMT -5
Yes the mATX formula has a finer 1/2 step to 103. Regular Atx is a bit lower & yes pushing that limit it can bounce over. A way to upgrade us to unlocked processors for more performance
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 6, 2018 6:12:38 GMT -5
Initial settings problem. Clear CMOS properly seems to fix issues. Ram hit 2000+. gskill 1800 b-die done 2000 12-12-12-28-220-2t 1.93v os 1.87v, vccio,vccsa 1.25v
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 6, 2018 12:29:41 GMT -5
Board is having problems. Channel A can max run 1600 only. Channel B is perfect. Done lot of testing. Will post details. RMA is the only option. Never returned any item to newegg. Gone through their return policy. I have a doubt what about customs amount. Will they refund including that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 19:25:05 GMT -5
Do you think ram is junk? Is there someone you trust nearby to test for you?
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 6, 2018 21:08:31 GMT -5
no way. all 4 ram kits tried. all are working fine on channel B. slots 1 & 3 seems to have problems. whatever i do they can't go past 1600. there is an xmp switch to force xmp. even with that also it boots only at 1600. all my initial problems are back using channel A. after clearing cmos, i have put the ram sticks in slots 2 &4. i did hit 2000 on g.skill bdie 12-12-12-, g.skill 1733 ram. galax worked upto 1866 12-11-11-1t. then i thought bios version problem may be p7.3 is a kabylake bios. tried with i3 7350k and channel A does the same and channel B works perfectly. tried with i5 6600k and same problems with channel A but channel B works perfect. ram in slots 3,4 it boots upto 1800 (single channel) & ram in slots 1&2 can boot only upto 1733(single channel). definitely slots 1&3 have problems. board when arrived, never looked like it was brand new.
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 6, 2018 22:08:16 GMT -5
got this info from hwbot thread. it seems black slots(channel B) do clock better than yellow slots(channel A). bullant was confirming that in the discussion 2015. may be he can throw more light on it.
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Post by Vinster on Nov 7, 2018 5:07:51 GMT -5
then it's behaving like a Gigabyte board (775/X58 boards that I have) . On those you get better memory performance when you use the boards outer slots. those 2 slots are for speed, using 4 slots (or inner slots) is for high memory amount at moderate/slower memory
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Post by bullant on Nov 7, 2018 6:00:46 GMT -5
Yes K, you need to run memory in the black slots z170 ocf, running memory in the yellow slots will restrict memory freq
yes 2-4 it should fly
sorry for late reply, been quit busy work, there should be some memory presets in bios that nick shh did, they are good starting point
Nice work K, can see you'll working things out with trial and error
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 7, 2018 6:49:31 GMT -5
Yes K, you need to run memory in the black slots z170 ocf, running memory in the yellow slots will restrict memory freq yes 2-4 it should fly sorry for late reply, been quit busy work, there should be some memory presets in bios that nick shh did, they are good starting point Nice work K, can see you'll working things out with trial and error thank you. Now all my kits have done 2000+ on memory. Galax hof passed spi 32m with 1933 12-11-11-28-1t.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 7:00:03 GMT -5
Did forget about that K ... my Asrock has not been out of it's box in ages I've forgotten what it looks like
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 7, 2018 8:41:35 GMT -5
few runs of spi 32m. i5 6600k @ 4800, 4900 galax hof 1933@ 12-11-11-28-1t & i3 7350k @ 5300 galax hof @ 1933 12-12-12-28-1t Attachments:
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Post by bullant on Nov 7, 2018 8:43:12 GMT -5
That's awesome K, glad it's working nice for you...been so long since I used z170 ocf but I think 4000mhz was hard with that board with 1t, once you find your limit in memory MHz just set 2t and see if it lets you go 4000mhz +.
Either way you can try 1933 like you have tight and 1t with more blck, or with what you have already should be nice eff for your benching to come
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 7, 2018 8:46:16 GMT -5
That's awesome K, glad it's working nice for you...been so long since I used z170 ocf but I think 4000mhz was hard with that board with 1t, once you find your limit in memory MHz just set 2t and see if it lets you go 4000mhz +. Either way you can try 1933 like you have tight and 1t with more blck, or with what you have already should be nice eff for your benching to come did 2000 12-12-12-28-220-2T with g.skill b-die. have to run spi32m with that kit.
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Post by bullant on Nov 7, 2018 8:47:58 GMT -5
That's great K,your memory look really good with the board your using
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 7, 2018 8:52:19 GMT -5
can't get past 1600 on yellow slots. is it ok.
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Post by bullant on Nov 7, 2018 8:58:51 GMT -5
Yeah don't bother with yellow slots mate, I think in the manual it should say to use the black slots....I never had a 4 dim ocf, tho I did have a sample prototype 2 dim big ocf z170 lol, Nick sent it , don't think it was any better then the 4 dimmer.We then received the new ocfm z170 that was really nice board as you've seen around
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Post by ozz on Nov 8, 2018 0:03:39 GMT -5
sounds like DFI boards, slot and ram picky
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 3:07:24 GMT -5
That's awesome K, glad it's working nice for you...been so long since I used z170 ocf but I think 4000mhz was hard with that board with 1t, once you find your limit in memory MHz just set 2t and see if it lets you go 4000mhz +. Either way you can try 1933 like you have tight and 1t with more blck, or with what you have already should be nice eff for your benching to come I remember having that problem ... 4000 cas12 1T was no go ... always thought it was the 7350K & 7700K having sucky IMC
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 8, 2018 10:01:49 GMT -5
2208.1 mhz loose timings. 19-25-25-45-2t
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 4:00:34 GMT -5
Nice ... finally something working for you there Do you have any Apex boards K? They are a step above all others z370
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Nov 9, 2018 4:39:33 GMT -5
Nice ... finally something working for you there Do you have any Apex boards K? They are a step above all others z370 . No. They are very expensive here. Oc formula also bought to use it with coffee lake.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 7:39:43 GMT -5
Keep going K you have a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 15:12:37 GMT -5
Saw your nonK skylake score, very good I wen't down this road before trying for a #1 score, #2 even. To try get XTU to bounce over your score now can waste alot of time. I spent 6 hrs one day on it. It's the mAtx Formula with the bclk half step up before 103 that can gain them few points. IMO get nice big points with nonK's ... but get in & out fast, upload score & move on XTU will waste your life away
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