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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 16, 2017 14:37:01 GMT -5
so I finally got me a b-die kit they arent too bad way better then the crap I had before that would only do 12-15-15-35-1 @3600 lol here is a little bit of what I have got going so far no wazza dont think these sticks are gonna do it also they dont wanna do 12-11-11 but hey I cant complain really for what I paid I would have paid more for retail and I prob wouldnt have gotten wazza sticks either I can prob make 3733 or 3866 wazza work but I will have to do some more testing to see if its worth dropping in mem speed to get wazza prob wont pan out in the end and I will end up running 4K no wazza here are the voltages I ran to get these to run this speed all on Z170M OC Formula mem 1.9v VCCSA 1.35v VCCIO 1.45V PCH PLL 1.225v and yes it made it stable
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 16, 2017 15:56:28 GMT -5
figured I would test out XTU LMAO this score at 4.5ghz compares to 4.8ghz subs on air LOL cant wait to take this CPU cold with these sticks
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 16, 2017 16:30:33 GMT -5
Hmmm.....my 6700K XTU with less clocks, slower and looser ram.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 16, 2017 16:33:23 GMT -5
umm my clock is only 4.5ghz LOL so you mean faster clocks? that is my point my 4.5ghz subs compare to 4.7 and 4.8ghz subs
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 16, 2017 16:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 16, 2017 17:02:29 GMT -5
umm my clock is only 4.5ghz LOL so you mean faster clocks? that is my point my 4.5ghz subs compare to 4.7 and 4.8ghz subs My bad. I thought it said 4.8 Makes much more sense to me now.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 16, 2017 17:11:42 GMT -5
umm my clock is only 4.5ghz LOL so you mean faster clocks? that is my point my 4.5ghz subs compare to 4.7 and 4.8ghz subs My bad. I thought it said 4.8 Makes much more sense to me now. its ok man I am crazy excited about these sticks they fail to do wazza so far but Im still very happy with them I cant wait to put this CPU back under dice and do some damage
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Post by dr4g00n on Dec 16, 2017 17:16:42 GMT -5
What happens when you try to run 12-11-11? Does it boot? The board will take a long time to post when set to 12-11-11 btw so if it looks like it hung at post code 99 give it some time. The mocf likes to overvolt the ram as well, by about 60mV, so at 1.9V in the bios it's actually @ 1.96V.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 16, 2017 17:40:43 GMT -5
What happens when you try to run 12-11-11? Does it boot? The board will take a long time to post when set to 12-11-11 btw so if it looks like it hung at post code 99 give it some time. The mocf likes to overvolt the ram as well, by about 60mV, so at 1.9V in the bios it's actually @ 1.96V. oh I know these sticks ca go as high as 1.95 if needed I was told by previous owner of both mobo and ram I need to find heatsinks for them since I did not get them with sticks since he swears up and down I Dont need them on air LOL so far they work great with just fan on them
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Dec 17, 2017 7:25:46 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 17, 2017 8:02:57 GMT -5
Interesting. Looking at that, I'll have to revisit XTU. Pretty sure I have a temp throttling problem.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 8:14:26 GMT -5
your sticks are b-die and should run tighter timings then that also those XTU were just me hitting multi and letting it go no further tuning I wasnt trying to have a pissing contest here I was just showing that my new b-die was way better then the junk hynix m-die I had
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 17, 2017 9:18:13 GMT -5
I wasnt trying to have a pissing contest here I was just showing that my new b-die was way better then the junk hynix m-die I had Nobody is suggesting that. We are just comparing to try to better what we have. All B die is not created equal. My sticks are single sided B die, and I cannot do 12's at all so...........
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 9:35:05 GMT -5
I wasnt trying to have a pissing contest here I was just showing that my new b-die was way better then the junk hynix m-die I had Nobody is suggesting that. We are just comparing to try to better what we have. All B die is not created equal. My sticks are single sided B die, and I cannot do 12's at all so........... really that sucks I wonder why are they like 3200s? my 3600s are older ones they didnt wanna do CL12 4K either til I started messing with shit they would only do 3866CL12 until I turned on XMP then set 4000 then did all the timings by hand strangest way to do them I have ever seen the m-die were nothing like that XMP off and just pick speed and main timings these sticks didnt like that lol here are the timings I was running at 3866
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 17, 2017 9:41:14 GMT -5
They are 3600's. Best I can do so far is 13's @ 3733 at a ridiculous voltage. I realize the Hero is not spectacular at memory clocking, but I thought I should be doing better.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 9:43:28 GMT -5
They are 3600's. Best I can do so far is 13's @ 3733 at a ridiculous voltage. I realize the Hero is not spectacular at memory clocking, but I thought I should be doing better. they CL17 3600s? thats what these are and they are kinda stubborn so yea I bet the board is messing with it the MOCF is crazy good with mem maybe that is the reason I get a bit better results
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 17, 2017 10:27:56 GMT -5
They are CL17's. I don't feel so bad now knowing it's more the ram than me.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 10:34:35 GMT -5
They are CL17's. I don't feel so bad now knowing it's more the ram than me. yea its a combo of the mem and mobo its not you I thought I was gonna pop them in and run CL12 4000 too and was sadly mistaken lol the CL15 and CL16s are much better then the CL17s I seen a MOCF I think on HWBot forums for like $150 there or OCN one of those 2 I seen them while looking for b-die I definitely recommend that mobo here it is this revision doesnt have cold volts but you dont really do dice or ln2 so it would be perfect for water or air forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=144123
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 17, 2017 10:47:17 GMT -5
Don't count out my cold capability. I do have dice subs and the chiller will go -30.
Thanks for the info. Different sticks I will be on the lookout for.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 12:12:08 GMT -5
Don't count out my cold capability. I do have dice subs and the chiller will go -30. Thanks for the info. Different sticks I will be on the lookout for. actually I dont think cold volts even matter til LN2 I didnt mess with none of those settings doing Dice so I think that mobo would be fine for dice really
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Post by dr4g00n on Dec 17, 2017 12:37:18 GMT -5
Don't count out my cold capability. I do have dice subs and the chiller will go -30. Thanks for the info. Different sticks I will be on the lookout for. Pretty much any g.skill b-die is good it's just about luck like usual, just stay away from the rgb stuff. Also, shady, try booting at 4k 12-12 and once it posts successfully set it to 12-11. One of my kits are very particular about that. If I try running 12-11 from the start it will fail to post but if I do it like above it works like a charm @ 4k 12-11 1.85V.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 12:46:27 GMT -5
IMO scotty these are the ones to look for the CL15 3600s from everything I have read they are by far have the best results but at $270 new is kinda ouch on the pocket www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232306dr4g00n Im gonna mess with them some more when I get my X99 mobo back from RMA til then the 6700k is my main rig with gigabyte Z270 gaming 3 mobo
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Dec 17, 2017 13:29:16 GMT -5
your sticks are b-die and should run tighter timings then that also those XTU were just me hitting multi and letting it go no further tuning I wasnt trying to have a pissing contest here I was just showing that my new b-die was way better then the junk hynix m-die I had 1. didn't like the word --------- contest. i was just trying to say that with mocf and bdie 12-12-12-1t @ 2000 you can do much better( my intention) my ram is not b-die. 3466 kit of 4 sticks has one stick is like b-die, can do 2000 @ 19-25-25-45-1t. i have a b-die kit which was bought from hwbot market place from tapakah. he sold stating that it does 2000mhz 12-13-13-220-2t but on my maximus viii hero it does only 12-13-13-220-2t upto 1700 and max 12-15-15-2t upto 1800. fianlly maximus viii hero is not a great memory overclocking board. i have done 1597 on a 100$ gigabyte entry level board z170-d3h @ 4500 with ordtinary ram. ( pl. don't think i am comparing scores here.) hwbot.org/submission/3165584_ksateaaa23_xtu_core_i7_6700k_1597_marks/
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Post by ksateaaa23 on Dec 17, 2017 13:47:17 GMT -5
your sticks are b-die and should run tighter timings then that also those XTU were just me hitting multi and letting it go no further tuning I wasnt trying to have a pissing contest here I was just showing that my new b-die was way better then the junk hynix m-die I had further to just say i have started a thread few days back for pcmark05 and you have posted your score of 22000+ on q6600 and macsbeach also posted a score of pcmark 05. it's quite natural to compare the score to improve each other for mutual benefit. i felt happy when people posted their scores. that will help me in understanding where they are doing better can improve my scores. warp9-systems.proboards.com/thread/493/pcmark05-tweaking
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 17, 2017 13:52:15 GMT -5
I didnt notice the 4GTZ at the end and not 8GTZ you have 4 gig sticks which no they arent b-die
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