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Post by Vinster on Nov 30, 2017 13:23:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking it's a ram thing and thinking of the age of that CPU I think it would prefer DDR2. I'm just confused why they would have it on the CPU Supported list.
Vin
EDIT: I just checked on the bot and I can't find any submissions with that CPU and MB combination. None...
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 13:45:25 GMT -5
I'm thinking it's a ram thing and thinking of the age of that CPU I think it would prefer DDR2. I'm just confused why they would have it on the CPU Supported list. Vin EDIT: I just checked on the bot and I can't find any submissions with that CPU and MB combination. None... that sucks I didnt see any either I was hoping maybe I missed one prob a bad sign that they dont go good together which kinda sucks cause it says Sempron 145 is DDR2 and DDR3 compatible edit: Im about to just give up on AMD stuff and never plan to bench it I got this DFI mobo that will not work right for me now this AM3 mobo wont post with CPUs on the list its like this shit dont want me benching it
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Post by Bones on Nov 30, 2017 18:15:34 GMT -5
Gotta be a BIOS issue going on. As far as I know if it will run a PHII then it should run a Sempy or X2 chip.
As long as the sticks are of the older versions of DDR3 they should work, in fact I'm not aware of any versions of DDR3 they woudn't work with but don't expect much more than 800MHz/1600MHz on average from the chip's RAM controller, these chips simply don't like higher RAM speeds so much. Every single stick of DDR3 I have they worked with but they really prefered sets with lower speeds and tighter timings.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 18:19:56 GMT -5
Gotta be a BIOS issue going on. As far as I know if it will run a PHII then it should run a Sempy or X2 chip. As long as the sticks are of the older versions of DDR3 they should work, in fact I'm not aware of any versions of DDR3 they woudn't work with but don't expect much more than 800MHz/1600MHz on average from the chip's RAM controller, these chips simply don't like higher RAM speeds so much. Every single stick of DDR3 I have they worked with but they really prefered sets with lower speeds and tighter timings. yea I tired 1333 and 1800mhz stuff neither would post Im thinking it is bios issues also
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 18:22:23 GMT -5
have you tried 1 stick of ram in each of the ram slots to see if itll boot
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 18:23:18 GMT -5
yea tired that too dunno what the deal is I know its gotta be something simple
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 19:07:28 GMT -5
yea tired that too dunno what the deal is I know its gotta be something simple mmmm, silly question not sure if yours is similar in bios but, i got a crosshair 1V formula here which i havent used much at all since ive had it, not something silly like the hdd settings , eg ide or achi, legacy and uefi , both but eufi first etc, i know thats has stuffed me up many a time trying to get it to boot coz i had it set wrong, and the csm (compatability settings) bullshit , dunno whether the crosshair 3 has got all that
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 19:16:52 GMT -5
yea tired that too dunno what the deal is I know its gotta be something simple mmmm, silly question not sure if yours is similar in bios but, i got a crosshair 1V formula here which i havent used much at all since ive had it, not something silly like the hdd settings , eg ide or achi, legacy and uefi , both but eufi first etc, i know thats has stuffed me up many a time trying to get it to boot coz i had it set wrong, and the csm (compatability settings) bullshit , dunno whether the crosshair 3 has got all that yea I tired it with SSD unplugged too dunno what is going on with it the IV formula is a better board from what I hear 890 chipset by all means tho these CPUs should work in this board
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 19:20:16 GMT -5
will it let you install windows , regardless if its, xp, w7, 8 or 10 ?
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 19:24:43 GMT -5
will it let you install windows , regardless if its, xp, w7, 8 or 10 ? yea the board works fine with 555 BE in it got win 7 installed on SSD and XP on HDD just wont post with sempys
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 19:26:32 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 19:32:53 GMT -5
hes using this bios, what is your bios in his board , whats your bios
American Megatrends Inc. 2101 (09/14/2012)
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 19:43:39 GMT -5
not sure if it is AMI I know its 2003 is the last bios they posted which is what was on the board when I got it tried to flash to 1602 which is listed for sempys tired 2002 with no go either
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Post by Mr.Scott on Nov 30, 2017 19:45:59 GMT -5
Not the same board as yours.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 19:52:24 GMT -5
Not the same board as yours. I know I was saying there is one working on a 890FX by all means it should work on my 790FX mobo I seen tons of subs with 790FX mobos
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 20:06:46 GMT -5
i just looked at asus , it says 0601 for sempy 140, 1601 for 145, 1904 for sempy x2 180, 2002 for sempy 190 in my asus page, ill ring my asus bloke up now and ask him what he thinks and ill tell ya what he says if hes there now
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 20:24:55 GMT -5
told him it was a crosshair 111, he laughed and said never seen this board, crosshair 1V yes, he looked it up, for the sempy 145 and sent me the link, im tryin to send it but it wont let me, its the 2003 bios, its a zip ROM file, jesus this stuff fucks me up big time
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Post by Bones on Nov 30, 2017 20:29:49 GMT -5
Bad BIOS chip? I dunno, it SHOULD work since the PH II is doing fine but cannot really say. I have a few spares and I could send one with the newest file already flashed in if you want. The one I have spare came out of the old Biostar I had been running and it's not that old overall per useage. Having a spare chip is really something good to have around anyway, seems like the ones used for these tend to go bad way more often than the typically square chips will.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Nov 30, 2017 20:36:50 GMT -5
Crosshair IV is 890FX/ SB850 it would definitely work in there its made for it. The bios for Crosshair IV is no good for Crosshair III.
It should work with bios 1602 or later that is the Asus says is needed. Needing a late bios means the board was produced before the 145 sempron
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Post by Mr.Scott on Nov 30, 2017 20:38:26 GMT -5
I would be running 1904. I too think bad flash or bios chip problem.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Nov 30, 2017 20:47:42 GMT -5
Just had a look a Jas subs with the 555BE why are you running single channel.
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Post by Bones on Nov 30, 2017 20:48:45 GMT -5
Went ahead and got the file and flashed it in with my programmer, it's ready to go. If you want it, I'll get it headed your way ASAP.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 20:58:28 GMT -5
Just had a look a Jas subs with the 555BE why are you running single channel. yea I didnt know I had to have 1 in blue slot and 1 in white I didnt look at the mobo when I put the ram in there when I did those subs Bones you have a bios chip you said? Id try one if you got one I really want it to work with these chips and I did try 2002 2003 1602 Ill try 1904 next and see what happens there
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Post by Bones on Nov 30, 2017 21:03:51 GMT -5
U got it.
I'll have it headed to you tomorrow, no sweat.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Nov 30, 2017 22:03:46 GMT -5
U got it. I'll have it headed to you tomorrow, no sweat. awesome man thanks again Bones I hope that fixes it really hate to get frustrated at it LOL
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Nov 30, 2017 23:23:04 GMT -5
yea I didnt know I had to have 1 in blue slot and 1 in white I didnt look at the mobo when I put the ram in there when I did those subs Bones you have a bios chip you said? Id try one if you got one I really want it to work with these chips and I did try 2002 2003 1602 Ill try 1904 next and see what happens there No for dual channel you either use the 2 white or the 2 blue slots you dont mix colors. If you had the ram in the 2 white or blue slots I would say the board has a problem or dirty mem slot
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Post by ozz on Nov 30, 2017 23:39:46 GMT -5
good point pete, colour codes tell you where the ram goes, (why put ram in different colour slots i dunno) theyre colour coded for a reason, ( dual channel) but he said hes tried the ram, 1 stick in every slot, so if thats the case, the cpu is good ?, the mobo is good ? the bios is good? , ram is good ? it should boot, time to go back to basics i think and start again, i know its happened to me, things get so confusing and youre tryin to get it goin and you forget the basics
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 1, 2017 6:24:51 GMT -5
yea I didnt know I had to have 1 in blue slot and 1 in white I didnt look at the mobo when I put the ram in there when I did those subs Bones you have a bios chip you said? Id try one if you got one I really want it to work with these chips and I did try 2002 2003 1602 Ill try 1904 next and see what happens there No for dual channel you either use the 2 white or the 2 blue slots you dont mix colors. If you had the ram in the 2 white or blue slots I would say the board has a problem or dirty mem slot ok maybe had 1 blue 1 white I cant remember LOL I been working my ass off these last few weeks cant remember much been such a dang blur
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Post by Bones on Dec 1, 2017 14:23:37 GMT -5
Chip is on it's way, should get there mid-week or so.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Dec 1, 2017 17:03:57 GMT -5
Chip is on it's way, should get there mid-week or so. thanks again man I hope its the fix I need Im ready to do some dice soon lol Z170 no fun without b-die still trying to get a set for $200 trying to find a set is a bitch
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